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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Western Digital’s Green Series Pros And Cons

Western Digital’s Green Series Pros And Cons

Western Digital’s Green Series Pros And Cons

Added: Saturday, December 5th, 2009
Category: Geek Zone > Product Reviews
Tags:File Sharing, ET, Extra Torrent, p2p, Torrent, Peer To Peer, BitTorrent, .torrent, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent.com, Western Digital, hard disk drive, hdd
I had the “luck” of hearing and buying one of the Western Digital’s HDDs which is welcomed by all main electronic and gadget sites. I wanted to enlarge my storage for the simple reason of getting too many great movies and music from ET, day after day overloading my current storage and having to burn to DVD almost every two or three days. Now, that I have bought a HDD shouldn’t be anybody’s concern here on ET, but I wanted to share my experience with you all and even did a “little” sniffing around, why is this Green version good or bad.

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First of all, Green means it’s environmentally friendly and uses less energy than any other being that for normal work or just stand by. It proved worthy of recommending to everyone by all the stores where it started it’s career. Also the memory it provides varies from 500GB trough 1TB to even a staggering 2TB. The speeds which are involved in reading from the disk and writing to it are truly great. Everyone must agree that for a bigger area you need a faster way of writing to keep up with the pace at which the information flows onto or off of the disk.

Yeah, that should be the obvious logic that we use, but It seems that the HDD runs at only 5600rpm (rounds per minute) this should sound as a big number but if I tell you that the average for today’s HDDs is 7200rpm it looks pathetic. Although they slowed the HDD down to get a better result on the energy consumption the disk just doesn’t seem to have the edge over other concurrent brands. Don’t get me wrong, the consumption is less than half of the normal so that’s a thumbs up, but the speed is a little frustrating when you try to copy files from a previously bought HDD which is not only smaller but older, in technology as in date of manufacturing, to the new Green version. Than you realize that the weak link as far as wasting your time goes is the newer, and by some crazy logic , better HDD.

As I did some research on some tech forums it turns out, it’s not only about the speed, it’s about some problems in the series that Western Digital thrown on the market. The 1TB version has a poor reputation when it comes to reliability. From 20 customers at least one complains that his PC freezes when he first tries it out and then there is the long period of waiting until the product is changed to another one, and you try it out and pray for it not to happen again. That’s what happened to me twice in the last week, and now I’m still waiting for Western Digital’s guys to run the diagnostics on the second HDD I got, to prove that the product is again flawed, as the last one was.

Some people tell that they can turn on their computers once the HDD is installed, but when trying to copy from it of onto it, it freezes at 100% not being able to verify the copied files. That is unfortunate, especially if we look at what they tried to accomplish with this Green series. They wanted more economic and better quality HDD on the market and in the end it turns out that what they accomplished in some of their products, in the Green series, they threw away with the gasoline and diesel that was burned while driving back to them to do the reclamations for the flawed product. Also using up all the energy for writing, e-mails, telephone calls don’t show a good statistic. It’s just not adding up.

As far as memory goes they are almost where they promised they would be. When they say 500GB it’s probably 470GB give or take 5GB, if they say 1TB it turns out 943GB, now that’s stealing, I can’t imagine how much memory would they give on the 2TB, it should be called 1.8TB. Doesn’t make sense when somebody agrees that for a specific amount of money he’ll give you a good product with the specifications that are listed before your eyes, and you clearly ask for that, nothing more, nothing less, and here we are having less for the amount of money we pay. But to be honest it’s not only Western Digital that does this trick, it’s all the manufacturers.

The title says pros and cons. So far there were many cons involved in this article. Now it’s going to change.
I must give some credit to them, because the HDD is smoothly running. It has a constant speed, and constant data flow, going to sleep, stand by, after some time of not being in use. It has a very low noise level so it can be called silent so even if you have it in your bedroom at night and do not turn it off, it still won’t bother you at all. You won’t even know it’s there, anything else you hear will be up to the rest of the components of your computer. It’s a SATA drive so it should be compatible with most of today’s configurations of PCs.
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If you get a good HDD from the series I previously mentioned, you will have a great HDD as long as it’s running. Also, it can be said with a high confidence that it’s cheap and with a high capacity for a storage drive. It is very easy to install and ready to use. Compatible with the new Windows 7 without any additional drivers, which is good because you don’t get anything with it, only the warranty papers.
It stays relatively cool even at a 60GB transfer from other HDDs and has a 32MB cache which helps with the slow speed at least till it gets full than slows a little and speeds up again. But reliable to transfer data onto it or from it almost 24 hours a day. Has a 3 year warranty with it that helps you sleep with no fear for your storage, but still doesn’t give warranty for the files that can be lost in the case of malfunction. That’s reasonable but still, that should be known.
And just to be clear on how energy efficient it is here is a comparison between the Black edition and the Green:
Specs wrote:
Black:
Read/Write 8.40 Watts
Idle 7.8 Watts
Standby 1.00 Watts
Sleep 1.00 Watts

Green:
Read/Write 5.4 Watts
Idle 2.8 Watts
Standby 0.40 Watts
Sleep 0.40 Watts

This should be enough information to anyone to make up his mind, to buy or not. I must say that even though I said some things about this product that can easily turn you the other way from it I still recommend it to you to check it out for yourself, because for the money they charge the product can be worth it. And once I get my HDD working fine I will be one lucky guy. So as an overall rating a would give this HDD a solid 8/10, but only because the glitches that happen with some of the series, and it goes to all Green HDDs, they are a big 8/10. They are the future.
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That’s all, I wanted to say about it, if you have anything to add about your experience regarding this product please feel free to share it with the rest of our fine community. All comments are welcome.


By:
Z0R4N
December 5th, 2009

Posted by:  Blocked
Date:  Saturday, December 5th, 2009



Comments (26) (please add your comment »)

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posted by (2009-12-05 20:36:24)
SnakeyB avatarThanks Z0R4N, I'm all for going green. Was the manufacturing process green, or is the product any more recyclable than other Harddrives, Or is it green because it uses 40% less energy to run, If that is the case it is using 40%less then close to nothing. If you look at the specs of the regular HDD it is extremely conservative on its own power consumption. We as consumers will put up with less than perfect products because we feel good about ourselves when we GO GREEN. I can see Western Digital with 500 Thousand shoddy HDDs saying to themselves, Lets lower the power consumption need on these drives and sell them as a GREEN product because people wont buy them otherwise.

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posted by (2009-12-05 20:46:08)
NaTaS avatarThanks fo rthe info, I personally use WD Mybooks at 1TB each. I have 3. One for Movies, one for Music, one for TV Episodes. I guess I collect and dont delete. Even the Myboks cause the computer to stop responding as they are recognized. You basically have to wait till its all ready and then you get good speeds and responce. Keep up the info..thanks.

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posted by Blocked (2009-12-05 21:47:57)
No avatarNice article @ Z0R4N

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posted by (2009-12-05 21:55:14)
capnmorgan5150 avatarYou get what you pay for. I buy WD Caviar Black drives, they work great, no problems so far. I'd rather have 500GB of reliable HD space than 2TB that could go t1t$ up at any time.

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posted by Blocked (2009-12-05 22:48:16)
SouLesS avatarWhen you loose drive space say with a 500 gig drive and only show 460 gig free that's windows fault with how it reads the drive. I hear on linux machines you do not loose gigs with your drives and supposedly get the full amount...(so i was told) so dont shoot me if i am wrong..LOL...I am and always will be a die-hard SEAGATE drive fanatic :)I have had 3 western digital drives that dint last a year all together...maybe they have gotten better I dont know..but I will never own one again unless I am poor and have no choice..LOL...as far as "green" nothing about a computer is "green" LOL I hate gay sale ploys...computers are power mongers!!!! and I wouldn't have it any other way! LOL MORE POWER!!!

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posted by (2009-12-05 23:42:34)
2canchu avatarI volunteered at a computer recycler. My job was was testing and wiping hard drives that came in. WD was not one of the better and I won't even mention IBM deathstar I mean deskstar.Yes Seagate was one of the better ones.But cutting rpm's and calling it "green" sounds like a misconception. There's nothing worse than loosing a whole TB drive. That's a lot of compared to say 200 or 300GB which would be a lot easier to save or try to rescue files. Well you know you have to keep up the times. Anyway Souless, I don't know where HDD companies come up w/ their data, but even back in the days of 10 GB(not all that long ago)they would always vary between series.You may have a point about Windows as they are hogs on space and memory, and Linux uses very little, so if you want to go green, well time to go. Good article after all the hard drive is the heart of the computer.

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posted by (2009-12-05 23:58:43)
megadethmen avatarI've got a 1TB Samsung Story and its working perfectly :)

I heard that the western digital HDD's are great too ... maybe i'll try them next time !

Thanks for the read!!

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posted by (2009-12-06 00:11:34)
No avatarTo determine storage capacity of a HDD take the drive's size and times it by 7%. This will give you the formatted capacity. You are going to lose some capacity due to the platter being sectored in preparation of new data, and this number may vary. In the example below my 1TB drive actually says I have 931GB and not 930GB of storage, but my 500GB drive reads dead on. A buddy of mine shared this tidbit of knowledge with me a while back and thought I would share as well :D

Example:

500GB HDD x .07 = 35 => 500 - 35 = 465GB Formatted storage capacity
1TB HDD x .07 = 70 => 1,000 - 70 = 930GB Formatted storage capacity

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posted by (2009-12-06 00:59:13)
No avatarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte

Read the 'Consumer Confusion' section. Explains why. Has nothing to do with the drive. It has to do with the way an OS partitions and reads a drive (the difference between bytes; 1000 vs 1024 for GB, for example). For those of you who are still subject to Microsoft's shenanigans, first, I feel sorry for you. Second, switch to Linux. Among other things, Linux OS actually partitions a drive and utilizes the whole storage space. Hell, I HATE Apple, but even the Mac OS is written to partition a drive utilizing the whole drive.

For those of you who think you are losing space to a the Windows OS because it 'writes data to the drive that it utilizes', you're wrong. Sorry. Z0R4N, and anyone else who wants writes an article trying to educate people should educate themselves first. Because it's not a knock on the drive (though there are SEVERAL on WD new 'Green' drives...), it's a knock on the OS and the way OS interprets hard drive space during the partitioning.

Also, for the love of God people, HARD DRIVE SPACE IS NOT 'MEMORY'. There is a huge difference. Call it what it is. Please. Hard drive space/capacity/free space, ect... Huge difference between memory and capacity people...

Tried to make this as simple as possible. And for the record, I am not trying to 'flame' anyone here. I just dislike uninformed people trying to inform the community. It's like, a foreign speaking person trying to teach English to kids. It's not going to work.

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posted by (2009-12-06 01:41:02)
vancouveraussie avatarI have a Drobo with 4x1tb WD Green Drives installed. Been running about a year now. Super quiet. No problems with any of the drives or the Drobo system for that matter. I have it plugged into my media center driving my LCD TV plus sharing media for the other 3 systems in my house. The only time I even hear the drives is for a brief moment when they seem to be waking from their sleep state. I've been so impressed I have my first 2tb drive arriving Monday.

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posted by (2009-12-06 03:54:33)
kingtiger01 avatarGreen when it Comes to HDD's is overrated, saving 600Mw for approximately 30% throughput possibility is a waste. Drives that are ROHS complaint are already 'Green' in the manufacturing process. if your worried about wattage, by a mobile HDD, as there power req. are much lower are as little as 2600rpm...

now as far as brand goes... i got a PILE of over 60 WD Caviar's... i DO NOT trust WD, i have a fine love for Seagate, out of 15 drives, ive only lost 3(and there all sitting in this room AND ironically are ALL 500gb. one is the 7200.11 series, and died of firmware issue the others are dead of drop-Shock. from a external HDD-Caddy) i love, respect and trust Seagate... out of all the manufacturers though HITACHI is THE WORST....

As far as the specific's on Space, its not ONLY the OS, its the Filesystem, NTFS's uses rounded 1024mb Sectors where EXT2/3, JFS and other UNIX-LIKE Filesystems use flat 1000Mb sectors. so you can achieve all that drive space you love...

IMO, Linux has faster drive throughput as well. my Ubuntu based servers definitely achieve faster performance and HDD throughput than they did on W2k3.

===
@piratezack:

Apple can achieve this as well BECAUSE, Mac OSX and newer are based from BSD a Fork of UNIX(linux is a fork of Unix as well with a different approach) so they share alot of similarity's when it comes to the way they hand file-systems with the kernel extensions.

remember... All a Mac is, is a closed-source Proprietary Linux box with good advertising and LOTS of BS.

12
posted by ET junkieET lovermen (2009-12-06 04:34:31)
Bong avatarSanta got me a WD external hard drive ( ok I opened it early) 1 tb USB .........so I take it out of the box plug it in computer sees it and I am up and running in less than a minute, makes almost no noise, I keep it running for days down loading and up loading no problem ( you would think I got this just for ET;) and a elf told me santa only spent $50 on it. all in all I buy one!

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posted by Blocked (2009-12-06 04:45:40)
No avatarSeagate rocks I agree.

14
posted by (2009-12-06 08:26:54)
marblezilla avatarI just bought a Seagate Barracuda 1.5 T drive at FRY's Electronics for $99. When I was first surfing their site for pricing, I saw advertised a Green 1 T drive listed as "In Store" for $59. When I checked, they were out as far as the front shelves. I asked the dude about quality diffs between greens and he mentioned they were slower. I love our ecology but as Bender the Robot says on Futurama "They can bite my shiny metal ass!". I rem on one tech browsing stroll I was told they had cut back on the Western Drives they carried because of quality issues.

Oops, I just looked at the box. Its speed is 5,900. I assumed it was 7200. Oh well, better than 5,200. I will still give it a try. The $99 price tag for 1.5 T still sexually arouses the Nerd inside of me...Heh!

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posted by (2009-12-06 08:46:03)
marblezilla avatarI just checked the store again. Seagate has another 1.5 T drive at 7,200 RPM. Not sure yet if I,ll upgrade. That's only another $20 or 20% more. Like in Indiana Jones 3, "I must choose wisely"

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posted by (2009-12-06 09:43:08)
koffieboon avatarGreat article! I`ve been using WD HDD`s for a few years now, i like em a lot. This info is very usefull for me. But i`m not sure if i`ll go green on HDD`s, cause the whole system has the munchies for power. Thanks much Z0R4N!

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posted by (2009-12-06 12:50:11)
mojoman avatari use a Western Digital 500MB external hard drive and have had great results. i store music, movies (HD, dvd and new releases). any new releases are watched and when the bluray copy comes out the cam/dvd copy is deleted. i play the movies on my tv using a Western Digital 1080p media player. i just hook up the hard drive to the media player. better than buying a bluray player.

18
posted by (2009-12-06 13:07:34)
EMUworld avatarGr8 Article....indeed...
Thnx ZOR4N,OBS......

19
posted by ET junkieET lover (2009-12-06 16:53:29)
bodthepimp avatarthx Z0R4N for the info we should all do our bit for the enviroment

20
posted by (2009-12-06 17:43:42)
Legionmen avatarGreat job! Thanks :)

21
posted by (2009-12-07 00:48:35)
No avatarKingtiger, I totally agree with you. Green is over-rated. The thing about WD Green drives is they basically shut them down to a low power consumption when not being used. When your computer access the drive, it takes time to spin up before it read/write at it's drive speed (which is only a whopping 5400 I may add). Complete useless for a power pc user. I don't think they are bad options for a normal, home user just using the PC for internet, word processing... I ALSO agree with you that WD is shit. I only use Seagate. Though, I will say that Seagate scared the hell out of me for awhile with their initial 1TB/1.5TB drives having the 'freezing' problems. They did rectify it though with later revisions. Good on them.

22
posted by Site FriendET loverSupermanETRG (2009-12-07 09:11:08)
3Li avatarThanks 4 the info ZOR4N. I need 1TB HD for my movies and don't decide yet what to buy: WD or Seagate. Cheers!

23
posted by Site FriendXbox (2009-12-07 10:34:49)
Z0R4N avatar@ 3Li: I would be better to go with Seagate or WD Caviar Black. They are more stable. Green is still not that reliable. But if it hold nicely trough the first 5-6 months it's a keeper.:o) Basically you need luck to get it right anyways.

24
posted by (2009-12-08 00:13:11)
MarcusVenture avatarAHHHHH! Someone up above said they bought a 1.5TB SEAGATE DRIVE....GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! I filled one of those things up with hi def movies and lost them all when the thing CRAPPED OUT on me. I then read a bit about the drive and found out that almost everyone who is buying these things is losing their data after they start filling it up!!! STAY AWAY! Its NOT just these model Seagates either. A lot of the newer models SUCK! Read reviews first and believe them! I git suckered in because the 1.5TB drive was on SALE super cheap. Now I know why. I have OLD Seagate drives that are great but since Seagate and Maxtar have teamed up they SUCK!


Now I am a WD man after years of Seagate loyal buying. I also noticed a nice wd 500G model that comes with a TV HOOK UP and remote for $99 at best buy! Thats really cool. I have the WD HD media player and LOVE that but adding the thing directly to their external drives for free is pretty cool too. Plays all video's with no problem.

25
posted by (2009-12-10 09:33:57)
lougedo69 avatarJust bought WD MY Book Essential 1TB and works awful with windows 7 freezes the computer everytime I try to transfer files.
Don't know if it was a great buy at $139 works great with Win XP no problems.....

26
posted by (2009-12-10 10:10:01)
Boomer avatarWell solid state drives should be taking over from platter drives. Right now it's an expensive technology and you don't get much space by comparison, but the power consumption is much lower than platter. Hopefully a terabyte solid state drive will still use less power than a TB platter.



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