In A Shocking Claim, The CRIA Has Been SuedAdded: Wednesday, December 9th, 2009
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In a not so shocking turn of events, the Canadian Recording Industry Association, a group responsible for heavily pressuring torrent sites such as Mininova, and challenging them in courtrooms, was sued themselves.
In a commercial copyright infringement case, claims were filed against the CRIA, for nearly $6 Billion, which is a shocking case for an organization that for so long as prided itself as the voice of copyright protections. They have for years now, demanded such strong copyright enforcement, and harsh punishments against them, that seeing them being charged with the very crime that they've stated has "destroyed the music industry in Canada", only brings a huge smile to many of our faces.
When a group that accuses others of acting in illegal or illicit mannerisms, is itself brought to it's very knees for the same type of alleged action, the only word that comes into my mind is, irony. How ironic it is, that an organization which has set out to defend copyrights, and fight the "pirates" of the world, is accused of the same thing!
We all can only hope that they order this "criminal" organization, to either pay the full fine, or face jail time, just as they have done to many torrent site founders, and other groups accused of copyright infringement in the past. Even more so, will this organization, stop, correction, "criminal" organization, be allowed to continue it's battle for the protection of copyrights? Only time will tell. That would be as absurd as if a pirate themselves came out stating they are in favor of copyright protections and would like to stand up for the cause. How golden would that be? Probably blind your eyes with audacity.
The lawsuits themselves, suggest that the major labels, all of which make up the CRIA, have themselves been responsible for nearly $6 Billion dollars of copyright infringements upon the artists they are swore duly to protect. Is it truly the artists which they have been protecting, or their own corporate filth and interests? Many would suggest the latter of the two.
The lawsuit itself states the following:
Michael Geist wrote:
The claims arise from a longstanding practice of the recording industry in Canada, described in the lawsuit as "exploit now, pay later if at all." It involves the use of works that are often included in compilation CDs (ie. the top dance tracks of 2009) or live recordings. The record labels create, press, distribute, and sell the CDs, but do not obtain the necessary copyright licences.
Instead, the names of the songs on the CDs are placed on a "pending list", which signifies that approval and payment is pending. The pending list dates back to the late 1980s, when Canada changed its copyright law by replacing a compulsory licence with the need for specific authorization for each use. It is perhaps better characterized as a copyright infringement admission list, however, since for each use of the work, the record label openly admits that it has not obtained copyright permission and not paid any royalty or fee.
Over the years, the size of the pending list has grown dramatically, now containing over 300,000 songs. From Beyonce to Bruce Springsteen, the artists waiting for payment are far from obscure, as thousands of Canadian and foreign artists have seen their copyrights used without permission and payment.
Still, these labels which make up the CRIA claim to be the "defenders" of copyright protection and fairness, yet now they are being sued for using artist's works for free, and still not paying the tab which they owe. I love this story, it's fascinating to say the least. Not only does it prove what I've said all along, but it shows why a torrent site should NEVER give up the fight or cave into pressures from this type of imperialistic scum organizations.
The list itself stated above, covers only $50 Million in unpaid royalties that are owed to more popular artists, but many will be left to ask where does the total number of $6 Billion come from, well let me explain. Remember the unemployed mother, which I told you of earlier this year, taken to court, and ordered to pay eighty thousand dollars per song she downloaded? Well, this is similar.
See, the class action lawsuit itself, is meant to seek out statutory damages in which start at $20,000 dollars per infringement and working it's way up from there. Only twenty thousand per infringement, you may ask? Well let's hope the courts treat these multi-billion dollar corporations no differently then they would an unemployed housewife, and that number increases even further. Given that the CRIA itself, as well as it's American counter-parts, the MPAA, RIAA, have both defended these critically high lawsuit numbers, it would be extremely difficult to try to lower such a penalty now. As the famous quote goes, "you can take that from the horse's mouth", and in the case, the horse had spoke too often.
Again this only serves as proof of how the industry itself is only out to protect it's own agenda, and not the agenda of the artists. All the claims of how piracy is hurting the artists, are mere lies made up by this corporate pig to enable itself to keep rolling around in the mud pool of money it's created. Have a close look, courtrooms of the world, and see what such swine has done. The facts are clearly in front of you now, and there is no longer the option to dispute such claims. Here lies the facts, that the industry has cheated those which it swears to uphold the representation of, and that it's hypocritical claims of injustice, were simply lies as well.
To the courtrooms, we beg of you to act fair, just as you did in sentencing poor individuals, and torrent site owners, and those which downloaded a few copyrighted goods. We beg of you to treat this corporate media led industry of lies, the same. Do not fret, for they have billions, and they should and can rightfully pay up for that in which they've infringed upon.
December 9th, 2009
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Wednesday, December 9th, 2009
|posted by (2009-12-09 08:10:17)|
|that'll **** 'em|
one for the people... ironic alright or should the word be KARMA... let's see them get out of this without there reputation all shattered and tatted....
i'll say it again **** 'em
|posted by (2009-12-09 11:18:00)|
|Got'em coach is all i got to say thanx for the article bro|
|posted by (2009-12-09 11:34:15)|
|Well well well. What goes around comes around.-KARMA-Its good to see that 'those' seek are sought themselves. I mean for years these clowns have been taking advantage of everyone, and not just the CRIA or the MPAA/RIAA, but record labels from all over the world. They are just money making machines who dont really care about the people but about themselves, like most business oriented people/companies, the only diference here is that they persecute anyone on their 'turf'. Sound like 'gang/drug' related wars. They feel threatened when they see someone taking something away from them.|
|posted by (2009-12-09 11:34:37)|
|I mean we are like the modern day version of 'Robin Hood' -->( E-Robin E-Hood). |
And this is just another reason why we should contribute and share( and obviously seed after downloading) because the more of us that are there the bigger our cause. So people lets stay strong and lets stay united here at ET , the only place to be.
Thanks xxxOBSCENExxx for another great article, hats off to you mate for finding the time to write and share this article.
|It's deja vu all over again. I LOVE it. :)|
|posted by (2009-12-09 15:56:18)|
|Just like I have said all along, Torrents do NOT take money away from "starving artists". As you have pointed out in this article, the artist would not get the money anyway even if we DID pay. If you want to pay the starving artists, then torrents for those actual poor artists should pay them DIRECTLY then we could cut out the fat cat middle men. THAT would be the ONLY way I would pay for music.|
|posted by (2009-12-09 16:12:39)|
|hahahaha, F you CRIA, hope they go to hell where they belong!|
|posted by (2009-12-09 17:28:42)|
|ha ha feel the paaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnn!cria|
|FANTASTIC NEWS SERVE THEM RIGHT .THX FOR INFO OBS KEEP IT UP|
|posted by (2009-12-09 18:07:45)|
|I've been coming to ET for about a year now, by far my favorite torrent site always clean files the admins are helpful and the articles more than informative. I had to register today after reading this article. OBS i gotta give it to you man whenever i read an article from you i cant help but get sucked into what I'm reading. But this is just irony at it's finest i happen to be an artist myself and i can go on record as saying that I'd rather someone get my music free on a torrent site than have some blood sucking leech of a company stealing from me we make music and movies and the like for the entertainment of the people and for the joy of knowing that people connect with the thoughts and inspiration that we as artist's bring the money as far as I'm concerned is a bonus and honestly the fame a curse but that aside i hope these tyrant's get what's coming to them because if it was anyone of us we'd be burned at the stake|
|Ur the best |
Keep the family informed.
|This is the best read i`ve had this year, THX OBSCENE!|
|thanks for the read obs it brought a smile to my face|
|@ Deceit, excellent choice of words "i happen to be an artist myself and i can go on record as saying that I'd rather someone get my music free on a torrent site than have some blood sucking leech of a company stealing from me we make music and movies and the like for the entertainment of the people and for the joy of knowing that people connect with the thoughts and inspiration that we as artist's bring the money as far as I'm concerned is a bonus and honestly the fame a curse" |
indeed. If you truly care about what you do, you want the masses to see/hear/view/listen to it!!!!!!
|awesome news dude|
|posted by (2009-12-09 22:34:39)|
|Thanks Obs. You'd think you where a comedy writer. This is hilarious!! I hope they take them for every penny as they try to do to us.|
|wonderful reading!!!! Love it!!!! Got em good!!!|
|Good they bought it on themselves really|
|Poetic justice at its finest! And they seriously deserve everything the courts can throw at them.|
However, (and I really hate to say this) it would serve all of us better if the courts went lightly in them.
There's this thing called "persuasive authority", or "legal precedence", in most judicial systems, where one ruling in a case can have a severe impact on all proceeding cases related to the same subject matter.
Let's say, for instance, that CRIA gets absolutely SLAMMED in the courtrooms, and has to pay out all expenses. Can they afford the penalties? Most likely, yes.
Will they still continue to pursue the unemployed housewives of the world? Yes. And will they push for the maximum penalty, and get it? YES! Because they can use their own case as an example of authority.
Now, let's say they just get their hand slapped and have to spend a little community service time wiping political arses.
Will they still pursue those "housewives"? Yes. Will they be able to even suggest maximum penalty without getting laughed out of the courts? Probably not, because any defense attorney worth his/her salt will use the persuasive authority of the CRIA's own case against them (especially a class-action case like this one, with multiple plaintiffs involved).
Basically, if CRIA's judgment is lenient, potentially it can effectively disarm them, and other agencies like them, in all future cases.
Also, any one of us who may sometime find ourselves in that defensive position can point our attorneys in that direction, allowing them to build a more substantial defensive strategy.
Yes, CRIA, RIAA, MPAA, and all their gestapo buddies can rot in Hell as far as I'm concerned. But in the courtroom, we may ALL be better served if they walked.
|posted by (2009-12-11 02:48:31)|
|Tks Obs... This is good news and I agree with Qu... It does make sense but gotta wait and see what happens.||
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