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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > 500 Million GBP Per Year To Enact Three Strikes

500 Million GBP Per Year To Enact Three Strikes

500 Million GBP Per Year To Enact Three Strikes

Added: Tuesday, December 29th, 2009
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:File Sharing, Anti Piracy, Copyright, ISP, UK, ET, Extra Torrent, Peer To Peer, three strikes, legislation, extratorrent.com, under construction, Lord Mandelson, anti piracy law, copyright infringment
One of the largest stories regarding file sharing and copyright enactments of the year, has been the "three strikes" proposals across the globe, most famously, that of the United Kingdom. A joint ISP report today outlined the costs and requirements for any such bill to be enacted in the United Kingdom, and as if the story weren't already enough to make your blood boil, once you hear the price tag you're sure to become aggravated.

New Investments From Three Strikes Profits

The report states that a "three strikes" plan which is already in works by UK Business Secretary Lord Mandelson, whom leads the Department of Business and Innovation and Skills, will be not only an extreme intrusion into the people of the UK's privacy and rights, but it will be an even larger intrusion into their wallets.

The voracious task of implementing all the proposals for dealing with illegal file sharing online, has been somewhat of a game for Lord Mandelson, and has made him the direct target of those accusing the "three strikes" policy of costing more than it's worth to the people of Great Britain.

Usually paying someone to strip you of your rights doesn't sound like a pretty means of taxation, but in this circumstance, the people have no choice or even voice in the matter. The estimated cost of the overall "three strikes" policy, will be over £500 million ($799.5 million) per year. This would add up to an amount of approximately £25 ($40) per internet subscriber per year.

Many internet service providers though are feeling the squeeze as well, stating that due to them having to charge higher priced subscription fees, that they will lose a temporal gain in customers. Thus, they take a loss while the industries of entertainment are set in motion to receive the largest benefit by cutting down on "illegitimate piracy", which also in the eyes of the ISP, will force many users away from extremely high speed broadband packages.

Charles Dunstone, of whom is the Chief Executive of Carphone Warehouse, which also owns Talk Talk, the UK's largest consumer based supplier of bandwidth, believes that the ISP's will suffer greatly from the proposed "three strikes" measures. He states that "Broadband consumers should not have to bail out the music industry. If they really think it’s worth spending vast sums of money on these measures then they should be footing the bill; not the consumer."

Valid points that make up the differential question of "Why are we paying for a proposal in which we the people have had no say in deciding?" Other ISP's such as BT, another major network provider, has openly voiced his opposition to the so called "collective punishment" which targets only a mere IP address instead of actively trying to prosecute the person(s) whom may be responsible for any form of counterfeiting or piracy.

BT Retail Consumer Division Manager, John Petter, said "Put yourself in the shoes of a small businessman who has a rogue member of staff. Your internet access could get cut off because of the actions of one individual. It really feels like the UK is out on a limb with these proposals compared to the rest of the world."

This would be the equivalent of you riding in a car with four friends, the car itself, was suspected to be used as a getaway vehicle a few weeks before for a bank robbery, and then you are all pulled over by the police, and charged with the robbery of a few weeks before. Even if they couldn't pinpoint who did it, just because you were in that car, all of you being charged with robbery. This type of charge would absolutely not stand in a court of law, without having substantial evidence towards the person(s) responsible. So why does this new form of "three strikes" which holds a single IP address accountable stand as reason to be penalized? That's a question many are asking.

The internet service providers are also very distressed and angry over the fact that the proposal requires all broadband customers regardless if they share files online, to provide financial backing for a bill that only helps the entertainment giant corporations to continue the same failing business prospects which have accounted for most of their losses. They say that supporting a "bail out" of the entertainment industry will only result in a slump in economic growth and prevent the spread of new and exciting technologies that will force the entertainment industry to compete.

Although there are many who've expressed their disliking and concern for the bill, there are some such as the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) which have stated that they believe the plan is within "everyone's interest due to the overall benefits to the country which far outweigh the costs", yet they've offered little to no facts to support their claim.

I fail to see any true benefit to the people of the UK, considering that the proposal introduces a guarantee that record labels will profit even if they cannot meet the high demands of the consumers who buy their products. With the only current opposition to the record industry as "free" distribution via file sharing, this pretty much ensures that they will rake in some type of profit.

The entertainment industry already succumbs to extreme profits via legal online purchases and downloads, from cell phone videos, ring tones, to handheld downloads, and many other various forms. This also decreases what they deem as a threat, which is p2p use.

In the end, the people of the United Kingdom end up in a situation where if they do download "alleged" copyrighted material, they can be disconnected from the internet, or even fined. Even if they don't download via file sharing networks or applications, they are still "fined" by having to pay a minimum tax to pay for the proposal. The record companies, and movie industry can claim a victory over file sharing, and the governments have repaid promises to campaign donors, such as the entertainment industry. Everyone wins, except for the hard working people.

Then it begins a new frontier, a methodology of where file sharers are evolving, into more discreet and efficient ways of not being detected. The government will eventually have to battle the new means of file sharing too, which only leads to further tax increases and funding to combat the new age of piracy. It's a revolving circle, where only the people suffer. File sharing doesn't decrease, nor does the financial gain in which corporate interests will make from the measures. I guess someone is happy now. Just not the people.

December 30th, 2009

Posted by:  Blocked
Date:  Tuesday, December 29th, 2009

Comments (29) (please add your comment »)

posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendET lover (2009-12-30 01:47:36)
sam_code4u avatarNice article obs.
thanx 4 the article.
charles, mandelson and all other people sud be sued for violating people.
they are thinkin crap about three-strike.

posted by (2009-12-30 02:27:48)
macbeth avatarwell i think its taking to much freedom for us tbh. Where the hell has our own rights gone and why should their just make new laws for a b.s stuff anyway, uk is already in to much debt as it is

posted by Site Friend (2009-12-30 02:34:41)
ICM369 avatarYeah it sucks bigtime mate

posted by (2009-12-30 03:08:47)
Dodgerhater avatarI hate how people are ready at the drop of a hat to take control of something that they know nothing about. I dont believe Lord Mandelson, in his infinite wisdom realizes what this does to the bigger picture of "control". Another backdoor approach at control. In the guise of catching those pirate scum.

posted by Site FriendKitty (2009-12-30 04:38:02)
aSBo avatarLove Taxes! Yeah why not what do we need to eat for anyway!. :\

More money generated for CCTV & WAR... FCUK EM aSBo UPLOADS ;O)

posted by (2009-12-30 06:11:58)
ghostrider avatarnice article mate the usual british government tryin to make hard working people pay for those poor billion pound record and video companies

posted by Blocked (2009-12-30 06:28:29)
SouLesS avatarThe UK is fookin whacked already anyways...LOL Comin from a place where the government cant take away your kid for being "overweight" nothing shocks me coming from that lame assed nanny country..LOL

posted by Blocked (2009-12-30 09:20:06)
peterchrist avataruk,,,a messed up place...9 of 10 british dont beleive in any GOD,, a goverment that encourages the sexualization of the children by teaching them, about sex at tender age as 5-6..single moms, disaster in so many aspects..and they are worried about,,,,FILE SHARING...hahahahaha,,,politicians..thieves, liers, corupt, hipocrites,

posted by (2009-12-30 11:10:54)
digster avatar@peterchrist coulndt av said it better myself

posted by Blocked (2009-12-30 12:49:33)
buddha avatarano souless the only thing worse than being frm th uk is being american

posted by (2009-12-30 13:35:49)

posted by Site FriendKitty (2009-12-30 13:40:26)
aSBo avatar@ buddha

Even if that remark is not racist you make a pretty ignorant generalization about our cousin`s at best. Not to mention the fact it`s bad karma for you. :))

@ peterchrist

Your are correct in your observations that our society is pretty broken. But we will not repair it by finding God. We are only just starting to repair the damage religion has caused in Ireland for hundreds of years. We are Godless here because of the things that are done in this world by those who have no morals.

I will share trance music spread the word lol :D

posted by (2009-12-30 15:00:35)
iwillkillall avatarPeter Mandelson is an idiot, passing the buck onto the consumer is no way to treat taxpayers, and an ip address can easily be copied, or falsified, so how does he plan to deal with that issue ?, plus i download from unprotected wifi points....is it fair for the owner of that ip to be prosecuted for my alleged infingments, no it isnt. uk isp's would be better adding a copyright tax to every connection, just like the Isle of Man done, that way the music and film industry would have some income at least

posted by (2009-12-30 15:03:44)
iwillkillall avatar@ budda

not all uk residents are like the english pal.....scots, welsh and irish are pretty cool people

posted by Blocked (2009-12-30 16:48:28)
No avatarLoL. Regardless of where you're from, corruption is spreading and control of your rights is being taken over by the powers that be. We should unite against such powers and see no difference in cultures as we are all human beings :)

posted by Blocked (2009-12-30 17:26:38)
buddha avatarlmao @ iwillkillall im frm the uk

@asbo so its ok to say "nothing shocks me coming from that lame assed nanny country..LOL"
but if i respond to it im ignorant,it must be cause an admin wrote it

posted by Blocked (2009-12-30 17:55:20)
SouLesS avatarIn my above comment I meant to say CAN take away your kid, not cant..My badd...

posted by (2009-12-30 19:40:42)
kbomb09 avatarThere making so many laws and new laws that their laws will become frivolous to people in the future. Example jay walking its a law but no one really follows that laws because its retarded to begin with. So go make all the laws you want... The law just wont matter any more.......

posted by (2009-12-30 20:26:06)
terrillcase30655 avatarhey now i am american!! nice read tho

posted by Site FriendKitty (2009-12-30 22:21:52)
aSBo avatar@ buddha stick around we have some great "Yanks" here lol i`m UK too BTW ;)
QUOTE: "the only thing worse than being frm th uk is being american"

@ iwillkillall Sorry i`m English & not considered cool LMAO

YES I am sick of living in a "Nanny State" it makes me want to smoke, get fat & burn Dolphins to keep warm. :o)

posted by (2009-12-31 04:41:14)
iwillkillall avatar@asbo, we cant all be perfect, americans are fat, turks smell, english are idiots etc, we scots for instance do nothing but drink and smoke, we as a nation think a healthy breakfast is a fag, cup of coffee and a fried mars bar...no one is perfect, back to the main piont of the article though, my idea is to tax every connection, say a fiver a month, this tax then goes into a central fund and copyright holders get paid from that, call it the digital rights tax, this will allow the government to have a light touch on the issue of pirating, and leave folks like us to do what we do..........

posted by (2009-12-31 11:57:56)
No avatar@ PeterChrist
Religion - WTF has that got to do with anything, most if not all wars are started because of religion
Sex Ed to kids - This isn't what you think it is, this is teaching kids about bodies, not the act of sex.
Single moms - Erm.... This is rife anywhere in the world, not necessarily mean it's a bad thing. My friends are from 'broken' homes and they've turned out fine, company directors, solicitors and police man.
Disasters - What are these then? I had no idea
Politicians..thieves, liers, corupt, hipocrites - Aren't they all, surely this isn't confined to the UK????

You should really read the full story and not just the headline.

This is not good news for us Brits

posted by (2009-12-31 23:24:23)
No avataroh my gad
I hope to new that realty all the uk people

posted by (2010-01-01 08:45:36)
KING2ALL avatarWhen I read articles like this I can only wonder.................. Where are all the terrorist bombers when you need one?

posted by (2010-01-01 08:55:59)
jdrav avatarIn the UK if the government think you are getting away with anything they will make it illegal.

If they could tax the air that we breath they would

posted by Blocked (2010-01-02 12:49:20)
BlueLady avatarYou want to form a band and make music, so you get together, write a song, rent some studio space and equipment and record your song..
From there, you put it on the web and charge a pound/dollar to download it.

Even if it's a modest success, that could still net you a couple grand..

So you write another song and repeat the procedure, suddenly, you have a fan base and things just get better and better from there..

The music companies/agents/managers/labels and general hanger's on are all left out, who needs em ?...the digital age is upon us..

This is what the music companies are screaming about, they have suddenly realized their no longer needed, their out of business and they dont like it...the old days where you can make a good living out of some poor schmuck singing his heart out on stage are gone.

Now it's the turn for said schmuck to keep what he's really earning for himself, and flip the bird to all the greedy music companies who want to feed off his talent..

Of course the politicions have to get in the way too, how else can they justify there existence ?.

posted by (2010-01-03 23:11:23)
Flubie avatari am so glad i dont like in the Big Brother state of England. Cameras on every street corner. Govt trying to tell you what to do in many aspects of your life. The US isnt much better but when people make a loud statement in the media the govt and companies usually back down. The govt is not in the media's palm as much as you guys across the pond. But we get politicians all the time being shocked and angry over stuff they know nothing about so its nothing new in the world. it just depends on who gets to their ear first and to get to their ear first depends on who has the most money in their hand. too many conservatives in the world fighting change. change happens. go with it, find a balance, or get left behind.

posted by (2010-01-06 03:26:11)
katep avatarthis will never pass its way to late now for this there is an election there in may

posted by (2010-01-06 14:37:08)
moominos avatari'm from the uk,and a musician,and have done a couple o soundtracks for sum short films.now,not so long ago i got an e-mail from an american musician complementing me on my music,i obviously asked where she'd heard it,she told me it was on a jukebox in a bar somewhere in tennesse and that a friend of hers had heard it via myspace,d/l it and asked the bar owner if theyd put it on the juke.apparently people listen to it all the time,the point is this,i feel good that somewhere obscure,somebody is listening to my music,and i think its great,even tho i havent been "paid" or even asked i doesnt matter to me.honcho's,bigwigs,digital nazis whatever u r called,lighten the f""k up !!!!

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