American Police Refused to Hand Over Hackers to FranceAdded: Friday, January 6th, 2012
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While the American government requires that UK citizens are dragged into one of their courts to face sixty-year sentences, it looks like it is not even reluctant to hand over one of its own hackers over to a more sensible French court.
The US cyclist Floyd Landis had a go at cracking the PCs of the anti-doping lab that found him cheating during Tour de France 6 years ago. He was charged by the court in Paris, which heard how he and his former coach refused to show up in court. In addition, they both were helped by the government of the United States that refused to co-operate against the US hackers.
It turned out that Landis was similar to a UK hacker looking for UFOs or an Australian who published secret tapes of the US helicopter pilots who laughed as they gun down Reuters journalists. Anyway, the authorities seem to be reluctant to hand over American sporting heroes when they do the same sort of thing.
In fact, the French did have enough evidence to convict both Landis and Baker after a Trojan horse spy program was used 6 years ago to poke into the lab's servers to extract data about Landis' file, several months after he tested positive. After this, Landis admitted that he took drugs in his career. Meanwhile, the police explained that they couldn’t turn up who exactly ordered the hacking, thanks to the American authorities sitting on their hands. The data received during the hack was later used in an unsuccessful appeal to sports authorities. It was supposed to prove that Landis was clean and that the lab work was actually faulty. The court decided that Landis' role was limited to the knowledge that he had about the fraudulent origin of the laboratory data used by him and his defense team.The court also ruled that Landis knew that these lab results were really accurate, because he would admit 4 years later that he had taken drugs since 2002.
While Landis didn’t comment the trial, Baker insisted that the charges weren’t true. He said that he had nothing to do with any hacking and as far as he knew, the lab papers he received while serving as an expert consultant to the legal team were received in a legal way. He believes that everything is part of a plot to protect the laboratory, which appears to be a national French institution. As a result, they were both given a year's suspended sentences, which means that there’s probably nothing to worry about unless they ever commit another crime in this country again.
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Friday, January 6th, 2012
|My question is they knew this 6 years ago and are now whining about USA not sending him there?|
Why didn't they then six years ago try to extradite him to France then? Were not talking and war crimes here?
There is an extradition treaty between USA and France; so didn't France provide all the legal documentation to have the extradition done?
We don't know what is really going on.
Remember France is and always will be pissed at Lance Armstrong always winning.
|AS A DECORATED AMERICAN VETERAN, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS "F*CK" THE FRENCH! They have done nothing but cause problems for America since we liberated them in World War II The only people ruder than the French are the French Canadians.........|
|posted by (2012-01-07 01:01:22)|
|Most american athletes are drug cheats,the ones that havent been caught have found ways to mask their drug of choice,the nfl doesnt even have hgh testing in place for obvious reasons (everyone would fail it lol)|
I doubt france even tried to extradite them btw,why would they?
|posted by (2012-01-07 08:45:38)|
|is it America's monopoly ?|
|@ CaptCosmo Sure the French are the apparent problem givers for the USA, when was the last time they asked the USA to fight a proxy war? When was the last time French intelligence agents were linked to the deaths of 3000+ Americans? When was the last time the French were caught trying to sell classified weapons tech to China because the trillions of aid you give them is not enough money for the greedy cnuts?|
But somehow it is France and not Israel causing you problems since you liberated them... Oh and btw you liberated nothing to be honest. The UK was more than capable of storming the beaches on D-Day alone, but glad you guys went in first, 2000 less retarded people to add to todays gene pool.
Anyway USA is just proving they are one way on dealing with the world, it is either their way or no way. They want to lock a UK citizen up for the rest of his life because he compromised their piss poor security and embarassed them. But someone from the USA has the rights to compromise French security and get away with it...
|gotta love america ey? xD|
|posted by (2012-01-07 15:32:13)|
|nada new for america thay wdnt send a murderer back to new zealand an we were the fist to help with the war thnks timezone|
|as long as my guns are bigger than yours,|
i don't have to accommodate your request.
it's the only american one-way street logic.
|@Lollingham: I'm not sure what Israel has too do with this situation as you imply. One thing though is it's almost certain the French would still be speaking German or perhaps Russian if it were not for the USA in WWII. Were it not for the ships, and millions of tons of weapons and supplies sent from the USA that Great Brittan would not have survived the u-boats. Dunkirk clearly showed just how capable the Brits were at that time. Given 3-5 years of peaceful production, perhaps England could have freed France, but just where would those peaceful years come from when Hitler was in power in Germany and when Germany was at war with them. Get it right if you wish to speak of history lest you show your ignorance.|
|@ Lgreen311 Only ignorant one here is you m8. Hitler went to churchill (via his right hand man) to ask for a ceasefire and withdrawal of German forces from Europe in return for allies against Russia since he realised too late Russia was more a threat than anyone else. But since Churchill had the USA to back UK he refused and d-day went ahead. otherwise pressed against the wall the UK would have allied with Germany and there would be no Russia as it is today, they would be the ones speaking German and the peacetime you claimed we would never have gotten would have been granted in the war on Russia along with France and rest of Europe granted time to build up armies and supplies incase of German betrayal and re-invasion after Russia was newtered. But once again we should all be thankful for the USA since they won the war for us single handedly... Apparently!|
So yeah back to Israel, you claim what have they to do with my comment, they have everything since there is some whineing grunt claiming France is all of the USA problems since they were liberated, yet France has never done nor caused any international problem or embraessment for the USA, but they getting flak from some ignorant grunt who is told to jump and kill ragheads and he says how high and how many. He does not even stand back to think why he is jumping and killing these so called ragheads, just apprently Saddam had WMD but 10+ years later still no sign of these ghost weapons but also we have the USA admitting the intel was false.
Then we have jews caught trying to ship the latest version of the patriot missile (capabe of interceptin ballistic missiles and very similar in capability to the coveted s-300) which is classed as advanced secret tech by the USA and only ever allowed under US command, but under special circumstances granted to Israel to counter the appearently imminent threat of Iranian missiles, then found in Finland being shipped to China labled as fireworks. So yeah you tell me, if Iran is such a threat why are Israel selling the vital missiles they need for defence? But the USA is still willing to jump into any war Isreal starts themself to defend them. Yet France is the one causing problems for the USA? Pretty soon low yield tactical nukes will be employed against Iran to counter the strong defences they are building up, so Iran will feel the need by principal to detonate one of the ex soviet state nukes it has on USA soil all courtesy of Israel and its war mongering attitude, but again France are the only one capable of causing problems for the USA...
So yeah back to topic, France has every right to extradite someone from USA, celebrity or not if they are convicted of a crime against France, its interests or its citizens, but apparently the USA belives this is not the case and only the USA can do this.
You do know that France will not extradite its citizens to the US as a policy. They would not even extradite a convited Rapist of a 13 yr old girl. I have no respect for a country that will protect a child rapist.
|posted by (2012-01-08 01:03:50)|
|@ noell00009 Then you must have zero respect for the west since most courts are so imcomptent and prosecution teams so willingfully ignorant that most pedofiles walk free from court, you tell me is that justice or protection of what the elites love to do in thier pasttime? Most politicians have partaken in pedophilia, homosexuality and many other disgusting acts just so they can be filmed in the process and blackmailed to tow the line if they get ideas of grandure etc. No offence to homosexuals with my comment, I do not care what you do behind closed doors, just know you have to answer one day to your maker for this perversion against nature.|
@ Bulgar cannot tell if that is sarcasm of actual bravo for speaking out against what is on the horizon?
|Yes i do have zero respect for anyone that lets people get away with raping a a 13 yr old. But you so nicely skipped over the the part about france not extraditing their citizens so why should any other country when france asks. And this was not some stupid crime like hacking into a computer or cheating at sports but raping a 13yr old. But I guess france likes to protect child rapists but throw computer hackers in jail. Maybe if they turn over the rapist the US will turn over the computer hacker.LOL maybe you should do some research before you defend a country that protects rapists of small girls.|
|posted by (2012-01-08 09:00:44)|
its not sarcasm
|posted by (2012-01-08 11:31:59)|
/* The UK was more than capable of storming the beaches on D-Day alone, but glad you guys went in first, 2000 less retarded people to add to todays gene pool. */
Your an arsehole, even if your just trolling, your IP should be banned from this site forever, I think the TV version American is a bit dumb myself, but there are some damn brainy people over there and I bet smarter people then you died on them beaches to save your ignorant ass.
That is all.
|posted by (2012-01-08 12:58:13)|
|people,people still aint gettin it, you only believe what they tell you or what they put in the history books,even as a solider do as i am told no question ask!!!!|
|posted by (2012-01-08 22:26:59)|
|Even though i agree with lollingham, aren't we getting off topic?|
|who gives are shit about that most countrys do the same and look after there own people first so whats wrong with that and the bit about world war 2 you should get your facts straight the usa tried to keep out of ww2 and never wanted to get into it in the first place theylook at it as a way of making money so dont go saying crap about the usa saving countrys in ww2 look at all the shit the usa is in now so try to get your facts straight and stay on topic and stop bagging other counrtys about the way they do things look in your own back yard before you carry- on|
|posted by (2012-01-10 14:22:32)|
didn't i read some where about how the French helped the Usa in your little was against the British back in the 1700's?
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