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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > New Way to Fight Piracy

New Way to Fight Piracy

New Way to Fight Piracy

Added: Wednesday, January 11th, 2012
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Right To Share
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
J. L. Dheepan, 23, is an Indian who has invented a new method to address piracy and help movie studios that always complain about huge losses because of the pirates. This way was patented as the “pirate predator”, and it is the following: in one theater you can see the movie with a flower having five leaves while in another theater there will be six leaves.

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He explained that this method is close to watermarking, but a bit different. With this technique, the industry can find out in which theater the movie was pirated, and this is a very important aspect that they are able to track the print. If the industry wants this technique to become successful, the production house will have to give the young engineer some particular scene from every print distributed to theaters.

Dheepan only needs one scene, and it can be a song sequence, for example. In each print, he will add some object – a stone, another petal on a flower or even sparks, which can’t be found by anyone except him. After this he will record the details and return the print to the production house for further distribution to the theaters. Dheepan said that maintaining a record is very important. He records the details of the objects placed in the scenes of different prints, while the production house will maintain a log book of the prints distributed to theaters.

When pirated versions of the films emerge, the producer will provide the DVD to Dheepan, who will pin-point the theater in which the film was pirated. He will have to check the scene in which he has placed the specific object, after which he will be able to identify the print and find the particular theater.

Aside from this, the guy managed to complete over 2/3 of work in curbing MP3 piracy, too. He inserts some sounds in different songs and then gives them back to the recording company. Basically, this method is similar to the one used for movie piracy, and can also be used for video game piracy as well. The young Indian got this idea when he was designing a share market video tutorial. His brother and friends, all engineering students, helped him to develop the idea, and Pirakill, a copyright and anti-piracy company, admitted that this method can prove successful if tracking is possible. The firm says that various hidden images, objects and codes can often be added to movies, but nobody knows in which frame.


By:
SaM
January 11th,2012

Posted by: 
SaM

Date:  Wednesday, January 11th, 2012



Comments (23) (please add your comment »)

1
posted by (2012-01-11 08:44:52)
No avatarI love how they would have to watch the movie over and over again with different copies to pinpoint where this "object" is, so they can narrow it down to the location if it's a cam. They still won't find who it is. What are they going to do next? Get a warrant for all the credit cards used to purchase the tickets? and have police knocking on their doors? It's a smart idea. But what about BluRay rips and DVD rips? And I hate that they're tampering with music. A very well thought idea though.

2
posted by (2012-01-11 09:27:09)
bangarang123 avatarwhat a fag
no 1 will buy tamped dvds or audio,
music artists r giving options try it first if you like it buy it,
thoose sorts of ideas always win and make fans love them
and then in return share a bit of luv$$$

3
posted by Blocked (2012-01-11 12:22:36)
menahunie avatarSo we have to put up with crappy movies and deal with crappy advertising in a theater as well?
Then they decide to put an Object in the film to curb piracy?
Like the logo we all have to watch on the TV ALL the time...
So the mp3 had some stupid noise in it? Just setup a filter to find it and remove it.
Same for the movie as well..
If it can't be removed the overlay something else on top of this morons OBJECT and then what?

4
posted by (2012-01-11 13:50:17)
conmac863 avatarSound like a great way to get studio copies of all movies. Then start your own pirate store with untouched copies. I like it.

@ soundwavezabuza - In the article it says you have to keep good records so I would guess he would have a system where he would see what movie it was, look at his record and determine that at 1hr 3 minutes 30 seconds the marker is in the lower left hand corner. Jumps to that spot and sees a green apple (or orange or dildo whatever) and then cross references from there. I would suspect once they figured out what theater they may cross reference CC purchase for that movie with another pirated movie from he same theater. Maybe alert the theater owner to keep a better watch etc. Seems like a hell of a lot of work, will cost more money and that cost will be passed on to the patrons who will in turn get tired of paying 30 bucks for a ticket and start downloading the movies instead.

@menahunie - We would need to know where the object location was. Sounds like a great game though. Trying to figure out what the marker is. Download several copies and see if you can find it. Like a 10 hour where's waldo game. I agree with the TV logo's. They are getting irritating and taking up nearly 1/3 of the screen now. Even on some channels we actually pay for.

5
posted by (2012-01-11 14:06:28)
jibbajabba avatarAs if a pirate would use a CC and leave a trace anyway.

6
posted by (2012-01-11 14:21:03)
crazymichael avatarits probably a load of crap u telling me every time he wants to see a new movie he pays £8 at the cinemas and £16 for a new dvd or cd my a#s and even then if it is true u just download dvd rip or cd rip and hide your IP

7
posted by (2012-01-11 14:39:36)
cobrin avatarJust how many Theatres are there in the world?!?

He and only he knows lol, sorry but that's a bit self serving don't you think.

There is already this tech out there, but instead of the Theatre it targets it's the internal members who get a copy for whatever reason (award consideration ect.) that has hidden info.

Me thinks he's better off trying Bollywood than mainstream...

8
posted by (2012-01-11 15:47:12)
DeezeNutzTag avatarIt will be as easy as blocking the watermark, never going to work.

9
posted by (2012-01-11 17:10:51)
samps avatarwatermark remover software, lol, but it says close to watermark so I guess someone will make a new software to remove it, FLOP idea acc to me

10
posted by (2012-01-11 19:06:16)
rj avatarwell this sound scary to me......bcoz i love pirates!!!!

11
posted by (2012-01-11 20:30:14)
No avatarthis is similar to what they used to do years ago by adding subliminal messages in to music and they are not soposta be doing this just the same.

so its ok for them to break laws?

and technically we are not stealing....up loaders are not charging us for movies nor the software to get them...(btw some one had to buy the dam movie to upload it)
we are not going in to stores and ripping off something that was already paid for by the store (this is not steeling for the mpaa)
so how is downloading steeling?


if you read the definition....and apply it to only line file sharing...it is NOT steeling! because it is given to us....just as if you are handed something.

they are taking stupid pills and im gonna laugh my ass off when they get there hands slapped again for it.

12
posted by Blocked (2012-01-11 23:38:33)
Xclusive666 avatarLol this is retarded there is already a much more advanced method which places transparent dots on the screen so when recorded by a camera usually 3 to 4 frames have these dots visible on them,which tells you exactly what theater the it was cammed at.That method has been around for a while now the advanced encoders know how to get rid of these the process known as dedotting which is why 90% of cams are always missing a few seconds here or there.This guy is a effin idiot and whomever invests in his idea is a bigger idiot,there is no way to stop piracy.

13
posted by (2012-01-12 03:29:47)
giblet avatarYe i'ts all been done before.

14
posted by Blocked (2012-01-12 07:11:21)
menahunie avatarconmac863.

It wouldn't be hard to find this object and remove it no matter where it may pop up in a movie. All you need is to capture this object and analyzes the pixels in it and setup a filter to look for that pixel signature and remove it.

15
posted by Site FriendSuperman (2012-01-12 12:17:18)
IndhuSharmaKS avatari agree with "x"

16
posted by (2012-01-12 12:34:32)
bazzer1234 avatarpiracy cant be stopped.as long as theres a web.and you use your brain.what a joke.nice thread sam cheers

17
posted by Blocked (2012-01-12 14:42:43)
m1nc3m34t avatarlol X

wouddnt something like the cinavia thinsg be netter each cinima had a code emebeded in t he sound what we cant here but the movie companys can tell what cinima??

another indian with a silly idea trying to make a buk!lol s2pid

18
posted by (2012-01-12 18:04:05)
conmac863 avatar@ Menahunie.
They way I read it, he would be the only one who know what the object is, where it will be placed and when it will appear. For example a movie with a kitchen scene. There is a knife on the counter in one copy and a fork in another and a spoon in another.
So you would need to know what you are looking for in order to setup the filter. But I am guessing about all of it. Just the way that seems to make sense.

19
posted by Blocked (2012-01-13 00:25:13)
menahunie avatarconmac863 - true some what. An algorithm can be written and it would search the movie for unusual events - like you mention and object popping up and how many times it does.

Of course if he keeps it on a computers as stated and has it hooked to the net; I wonder how long it will be before he's hacked?
Now there is the brute force approach - covertly break into his office and install a Trojan on his computer.

Also if this is adopted there will be the need for ALLOT of people hired by him to mark these movies; so greasing one of them to provide the information would happen.

Sounds crazy; but if money can be made it would be done.

20
posted by Blocked (2012-01-13 02:25:23)
Hard_Target avatarSimple use of cctv footage in theartes could then help pin point the culprit with cam!!........#
Anyhow most cams are poor the problem is the chink smack head im a blag bussiness man/woman refugee sellin dvd's in every pub and place you can think of,most people dont know how to access torrents or that they even exist, until confronted half pissed with a pint of shite......'oh the kids will watch these...... how much?..... chink replies...... £5 for 2...........the piss head makes illgeal purchase of copyrighted material......in a nutshell thats the fukin problem right there....... nuff said on this matter

21
posted by (2012-01-13 13:50:21)
No avatarit will not work..the scene can be clipped out or blocked or blurred
out ...technology always win

22
posted by (2012-01-13 19:28:14)
cj1404 avatarThe up-loaders will edit the movies so the watermark is obscured. I'm sure everyone has seen it done already.

What a joke.

23
posted by (2012-01-14 00:21:02)
hrg avatarWow its amazing how so many people can be dumb and smart at the same time:
1) It would be randomly inserted and could be something as simple as a spark so no anti watermark wont work because it could be anything, anywhere and there's no basis for the software to recognise coz you wont know what it it until you have time to do detailed analysis on a few different recordings and in the torrent world it's first come, first praised... BUT
2) It means diddly squat anyway, so what if they could make enough variations for EVERY theatre ect, cams are ok that's kinda the whole point, you get a ok cam then a dvd rip, if it was a spark the video would be so low grade you wouldn't notice and even if they did so what it was pirated in a Manchester theatre, even if a theatre did have cameras in there dark viewing areas, storage space means recordings are usually wiped after a couple of days or a week, think they can get it analysed and respond in that amount of time
lol another stupid idea that sounds smart, but I'm ALL for it I'm totally gonna back this one, let them waste millions researching into this new tech and putting it into there movies, then millions more trying to analyse and respond, let them waste there money for a change, they might get a few law suits against the theatres and then what, the theatres will just refuse to show the movies if they run the risk of being sue'd because of something outside of there control, what they gonna do? strip search at the door lol and it would never hold up in court against a third party anyway.
Well thats my thought of the day



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