Oldest BitTorrent Site Knocked Down, But Not OutAdded: Saturday, January 30th, 2010
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“FileSoup”, a UK-based BitTorrent site having lived for a long time that was established in 2003. The site exists from the time when the BitTorrent protocol was introduced. The vary site made an outstanding image along with a successful community in the BitTorrent world which in result made it go a long way even more than “The Pirate Bay”.
But the site experienced a nightmare on Monday, 27th July 2009 at 09:05 when FACT, an anti-piracy group working for MPAA led a surprise attack on the home address of the “TheGeeker” that is the owner of “FileSoup”. The owner was known by this name only to the whole community of the site. “TheGeeker” was taken in custody and even after it the site was still online but soon it just gone off without any warning leaving nothing but hopes for the community to come back as soon.
“TheGeeker” was never involved in hosting any kind of copyrighted material. The site was suspected and the owner was arrested as the charge of suspicion of downloading copyrighted movies. A search warrant was issued against him that was under Section 109 of the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988 and an authorization was given to the anti-piracy group to fetch out the evidences related to the illegal distribution or file-sharing of copyright films.
Geeker was never provided with any sympathy. He said, “I asked them [police] while still at home if I could contact a member of my family so that someone could come and make sure my dog was catered for, they said that I couldn’t. On the way to the police station I asked if they could contact someone to take care of the dog or if I could make a phone call, they again said I could not.”
No sympathy for his pet was just considered a small thing for him as more were about to happen. A ‘Notice Of Entitlements’ sheet, a brief explanation about how a prisoner should be cared for, was given to him just after being brought in local police station. One section from the sheet explained:
Keeping in touch: As well as talking to a solicitor and having a person told about your arrest you will usually be allowed to make one phone call. Ask the police if you would like to make a phone call. You can also ask for a pen and paper. You may be able to have visitors but the custody officer can refuse to allow that.
Geeker asked many times to let anyone of his family and his lawyer know about him that wherever he is but even after seven and a half hours later, nobody listened up to him and he was left mentally disturbed.
After so much of things happened with him, he was then released after 19:30 but he was tagged as “Distribute Article Infringing Copyright” as his offense.
Geeker said, “I got back home just before 8pm to find my belongings had been turned upside down, the dining room was a like a whirlwind had gone through...they’d turned out all the drawers of the desk, chucked back what was of no interest to them, left a pile of paperwork scattered across my desk and table with wires everywhere, talk about a nightmare! My dog was extremely traumatized, he’d been barking almost non-stop all day long the neighbor told my Dad when he went over at about 6:30pm to feed the dog as I hadn’t got back yet. My dog rarely barks at anything, now he barks at the least little thing, I am SO annoyed that they have done this to him!”
Even after all this violent disturbance, no order or anything was given to the owner to shut the site and it continued to be opened with everything active. But on Wednesday , 6th January 2010, FileSoup disappeared leaving no warning behind.
JMHServices, an FileSoup host left its customers losing their hundreds of dollars as the company had not been paying their bills which was confirmed in an E-mail of NetDirekt, a provider that JMH co-located with. The host was closed even before vanishing of FileSoup. The thing became a big one and started flowing when some customers started complaining about the sudden stoppage of their seedboxes leaving no response.
The owner came again in the police station on Monday 11th January 2010 to answer his bail but he was questioned a lot once more about FileSoup. A mobile phone, sat nav and video camera that were grasped from the owner were then given back.
TheGeeker is very upset because of such encounter with police and interviews and even one more thing is making him feel pressurized that is the closure of JMH and no hope is being expected for FileSoup.
According to Geeker, being friendly and open community site all about BiTorrent and file sharing and to make a better one not only to fetch out torrents but also a place where people get everything they are need of and be satisfied, which was always been a target for FileSoup just from the time when it just began functioning.
Geeker said, “It is so upsetting for me and for every member I’ve heard from since Filesoup went offline, to think that we’re all going to lose the friends and the site we all worked so hard to build up over the last 6+ years.” He is now fetching out people with great knowledge and experts who can let “FileSoup” be at its best again and people could get what they actual want. “Over the next couple of weeks, I’m hoping to find and speak with some like minded people to help me, so fingers crossed, if everything works out well, Filesoup could be back online again real soon,” he said.
Tuesday, 13th April 2010 is the new bail date of Geeker. Peace to “TheGeeker”. Warm wishes and Luck from Extra Torrent “The Biggest BitTorrent System”.
January 30, 2010Posted by:
Saturday, January 30th, 2010
|thx EMUworld & SaM NICE INFO ALL THE BEST TO TheGeeker|
|damn witch hunts when does monty python pop in " did someone say Spanish Inquisition"|
|posted by (2010-01-30 11:38:20)|
|DAMN that was cold blooded of the pigs to do that to his house especially what they did to him now him & his dog are traumatized for life |
Best wishes go out to "TheGeeker"from ET We will prosper over the stupid industry greedy bastards but its ok cause what goes around comes around u guys remember that they will just like every other empire b 4 them
Keep ya head up
|posted by (2010-01-30 11:44:12)|
|I will say thanks .to ET 4 this post. look at what ALL the world voted for. I think IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE! will we as A P2P LET THIS HAPPEN?|
|posted by (2010-01-30 12:14:27)|
|We all need to vote for a new Democracy...Abolish this Corporate Republic we live in!|
|thanx for the read Emu and Sam............|
|My question is what did they do to the dog while they were searching his house? I mean if someone came into my home and started wreaking the place, my rottie wouldn't just stand their and bark at them. they must have thrown that dog in a room and closed the door. Thats crulity to animals|
|They make their own rules(Police)|
|PETA must have those officer charged !as they didn't even think of the welfare of the dog !i mean how many hours the dog was in mind of sadness i can imagine only !It might be too bad for him !|
|posted by (2010-01-30 16:22:44)|
|It reminds me of the different types of trade unions, that have been attacked over the years. I think all of us here can see there is a better way of viewing and distributing media. True free world media, if we keep fighting for it, we might just get it. |
I hope they succeed in reviving Filesoup.
|This is just a form of communism right here,personally all the films I upload and share are from my personal collection,movies I pay for,so it should be my god-given right to do what the hell I want with them.So if I want to buy a bunch of dvd's and burn them in a pile that is ok,but,I better not get caught "sharing"them with my friends??Bullsh*t,plain and simple.|
|Unbelievable that they treated this man as if he was a terrorist. The notice they gave him clearly stated that he was allowed to notify someone of his arrest and make a phone call and yet "the pigs" refused!! :s They didn't give a sh*t about his dog and "trashed" his place!! Unbelievable!!|
|@1337bits: Napster may be gone, Kazaa went legit. But Limewire for instance is still "alive" and doing the same thing Napster did back in the day. I haven't heard of any legal steps being taken against them. So there might still be hope ;)|
|posted by (2010-01-30 18:10:31)|
|Thnx EMU and Sam........|
|posted by (2010-01-30 19:39:39)|
|thx for the upload of this was a really good read.|
|Thats British justice at its best!|
DAMN that was cold blooded of the pigs to do that to his house especially what they did to him now him & his dog are traumatized for life
Well if they confiscated any computer/equipment he will be lucky to see it in the next year or two,and even luckier if any of it still
works.Im still waiting for a tower and 4 harddrives from end of 2008! Boo!
We all need to vote for a new Democracy...Abolish this Corporate Republic we live in!
Um what good does voting do? the only way to destroy the corporate shit we live in,is damage/destroy and burn it down and get out on
the streets and take direct action!
@My question is what did they do to the dog while they were searching his house?
- One off our finests ways to deal with dogs is to spray with fire extinguiser,have also heard of dog getting peppersprayed!but best of all in south wales the polis tazered a sheep! yep you read that right a sheep!
PETA must have those officer charged !as they didn't even think of the welfare of the dog !i mean how many hours the dog was in mind of
sadness i can imagine only !It might be too bad for him !
- Sorry to say but none of those "corporate"welfare groups like peta will bat an eyelid! as for charging the officers yuor having a laugh see - http://www.actionforgreyhounds.co.uk/news.asp?article=82 ,they got a small warning!
@moviefreak24 Unbelievable that they treated this man as if he was a terrorist.
- Well thats british law for you,you dont conform/act differently/live your own life you will be classed as this.I am!
A few tips if you are arrested or thinking of getting arrested in britain - eat well before hand if your a vegan,all you will get offered as food at police station is usually water and a plain roll or if your lucky maybe an apple.Always carry your soliciters phone nuber on you(mine is written on inside of my belt)unless no other option do not call/speak to duty soliciter.this is now run from a call center staffed mainly by ex polis reading from a manual.
Sorry for the rant (those that know me will be used to it)
Sorry I do not intend to detract or take anything away from another excellet article by Emu,many thanks for this,keep up the great work you are doing
|PS, wishing all the best to "The geeker" and dog.|
|posted by (2010-01-31 01:01:07)|
|posted by (2010-01-31 02:23:02)|
|gives me a sick feeling in the gut to read about this, stay on your feet thegeeker and all the best for you and your old mate (dog) |
im starting to think if its time to fight back using what we know... ahem for example i think we should put together a dvd movie/doco episodes on the best ways know to get away or minimize any chance of getting caught using torrents legal or not. just imagine a informative fun appealing episodes on "The Way Of The Torrent" that contain all the collective info we as a torrent community could offer to others who are less informed.
then get the episodes out to any and every one with our side of the story and why we choose torrents.
|The police have way to much power.. There heads are way to big! Thanx for the read sam. You might be on to something DEVO!|
|posted by (2010-01-31 14:06:58)|
|damn those p2p hunters,but it willnot be so easy to end this,...violation of people privacy thats not acceptable....may file sharing live a life time!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|Damm that's some stright bull ----, good luck to the geeker as well as thanks to et for the article.|
|posted by (2010-01-31 17:21:01)|
|Yes, Def need to get a Lawyer involved and fire back after them with a ton of paperwork for their commanders to explain why they acted as did... It would be really sweet if that 1988 bill that charged him with, doesnt cover the scope of a Bit-torrent setup...|
Need to find a good Solicator (guess that the UK term).. one that gets jollys off going after the Gov... (maybe an Irishman!) LOL
|posted by (2010-02-01 00:55:32)|
|i heard they locked geeker up so the antipirate pigs could rape his dog, poor scruffy.|
|posted by (2010-02-01 01:03:02)|
|hey but seriously geeker dont let them get ya down and get ya site up soon.|
|The owner (Geeker) of Filesoup was raided by police on the Monday, 27th July at 9:05AM. The raid was issued for warrent under â€œSection 109 Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988â€³. The police have accused Geeker of â€œEvidence in relation to the illegal distribution or illegal filesharing of copyrighted films however held, whether electronically or otherwise. Also any evidence in relation to payments received relating to the illegal distribution or illegal filesharing of copyrighted films held whether electronically or otherwiseâ€. The story told straight from Geeker himself is below:|
Specify person or persons: AUTHORITY is hereby given for any constable (accompanied by):
Neil Gardner, an officer of the Federation Against Copyright Theft (F.A.C.T.)
I was arrested, and taken to the local police station, on the way I asked and was told that it would take about a couple of hours, when I arrived, the booking-in charge was entered as:
Suspicion of downloading copyrighted movies
I asked them while still at home if I could contact a member of my family so that someone could come and make sure my dog was catered for, they said that I couldnâ€™t. On the way to the police station I asked if they could contact someone to take care of the dog or if I could make a phone call, they again said I could not.
Before being put in a cell, I was given a Notice Of Entitlements sheet. On this sheet it clearly stated under HOW YOU SHOULD BE CARED FOR. Keeping in touch:
As well as talking to a solicitor and having a person told about your arrest you will usually be allowed to make one phone call. Ask the police if you would like to make a phone call. You can also ask for a pen and paper. You may be able to have visitors but the custody officer can refuse to allow that.
I asked again as I was put in the cell, if I could contact someone or make a phone call, I was told no I couldnâ€™t do that, I asked why and was told that the Inspector had put a block on any and all communication from me to anyone.
I was checked on approximately every 30 minutes, each time I asked if they could please contact someone to inform them that I had been arrested and that I wanted to make a telephone call to arrange for a solicitor, every time I was told that they would check into it, see what they could do, ask a superior etc etc, but I wasnâ€™t allowed to do either for the whole duration of me being in the cell, which was around 7.5 hours.
After a few hours, I was visited by two Independent Custody Visitors, who asked if I was being treated well and if there was anything I wanted or needed, I told them that I had asked several times already, that I wanted someone contacted to let them know that Iâ€™d been arrested and that I wanted to make a phone call, but both had been refused, they appeared surprised and said they would look into it for me, but that was obviously a worthless statement from them, because in the hours that follwed, I still wasnâ€™t allowed to do either.
I did get something which resembled an all day breakfast meal, but the taste was so awful, I only had a couple of spoons of it, I had several cups of water and a cup of coffee, I also asked for and got a blanket when I got a bit cold, police cells arenâ€™t the warmest of places I now know!
Iâ€™m guessing that around about 4:45pm a policeman who Iâ€™d not seen before, came into the cell with some paperwork, it was a 12 page list of items they had seized from my house, he asked me to sign a document to confirm that the items listed were mine, after looking at the first few pages, I told him that there were no specific identifiable details for any of the items they had seized and listed, no manufacturers, no model numbers, no serial numbers, for anything and that because this important information had not been detailed, I was not going to sign anything stating that I owned any of it, not without first visually confirming that all the listed items were actually my propety, hereâ€™s the list of items they say they seized:
01. Nokia mobile phone
02. Large brown package containing several large padded envelopes
03. Western digital hard drive
03. Realistic telephone answering machine
04. 18 mini discs
05. Sharp video camera in grey carry case
06. 8 blank cdâ€™s
07. Tandy laptop & bag
08. Black media device
09. Grey mitac laptop computer
10. 10 mini discs
11. eMechanics computer hard drive
12. Box containing venus hard drives
13. 10 blank jvc cdâ€™s
14. Memory stick from rear of eMachines computer tower
15. Box containing 10 traxdata cdâ€™s
16. Box containing 10 samsung cdâ€™s
17. Large computer tower
18. 2 cdâ€™s 1 floppy disc and misc papers containing invoices
19. Advent computer tower and external drives
20. Wharfdale rewritable dvd player
21. 5 x hard drives
22. Grey phillips receiver
23. 3 x memory sticks
24. Misc cdâ€™s and mini discs
25. Hard drives
26. 1 x hard drive
27. Various cdâ€™s & dvdâ€™s
28. Computer base unit
29. Computer drive & lead
30. Asda bag containing computer drive & discs
31. Sat nav in black case
32. Paperwork containg details of addresses in Scotland
33. Documents seized from desk
What do they take me for, a complete idiot! â€¦no one in their right mind would have signed to say any of these items were their property, especially if theyâ€™d not been there when it was seized!
Anyway, he got extremely pissed off, insisted I signed it, I refused and he said something to the effect of â€œfine, then donâ€™t sign itâ€ and stormed off out of the cell.
At 5pm a solicitor arrived and I was put in an interview room to speak with him and his assistant, I said that with my limited knowledge, as far as I was aware, downloading of something which had copyright, was a civil offence and not a criminal one and I asked him why the police were involved in this case, he told me that under Section 109 of the Copyright Designs and Patents Act of 1988, the downloading of any copyrighted item, without the owners consent, was a crimnal offence and not a civil one â€¦first I knew of it!
I was then interviewed by two police officers and it was recorded on tape, they asked loads of questions about all sorts of things to do with Filesoup, I had to correct and explain things to them several times, in very simple terms, a lot of the misconceptions or misunderstandings they had about the way BitTorrent works, how servers and hosts operate, how the internet works, what a domain name was, what a URL was, to name but a few things! The tape machine beeped and kept stopping part way through the interview, it appeared that they knew it was a â€œbit faultyâ€ at times, but fiddled with it and carried on regardless, eventually, the interview was finished.
My solicitor and I asked them if they would very kindly drive me back home again, he did agree, but he first had to complete some paperwork, he said heâ€™d be as quick as he could and put me back in the cell again to wait for him. Quite some time later, he returned and took me back to the booking desk.
I was given a multi-paged document entitled:
Notice of Excercise of Additional Powers of Seizure under Sections 50 or 51 of the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001, which listed the same items as above. It gave this information for anyone wishing to make an application for the return of seized property in this case or an application to attend examination of seized property, should apply to:
Federation Against Copyright Theft
On returning my personal effects, the officer noticed the Filesoup credit card which they had overlooked when I was being booked in, he confiscated the card and gave me a receipt for it.
I was released on police bail with the alleged offence(s) stated as being:
Distribute Article Infringing Copyright
I must surrender to the local police station on 02/10/2009 at 5:00 pm
I asked the officers why everyone had continually refused all day to contact someone to inform them of my arrest and why Iâ€™d been refused to make a phone call, they told me that the Inspector had lifted the â€œblockâ€ at around 2:30pm and that they didnâ€™t know why the officers on duty at the station hadnâ€™t been informed of this fact.
Time of release from police custody was 19:42
I got back home just before 8pm to find my belongings had been turned upside down, the dining room was a like a whirlwind had gone through, Iâ€™m not the tidiest of people as it is, but at least I knew where everything was, but after they had been there going through everything, theyâ€™d turfed out all the drawers of the desk, chucked back what was of no interest to them, left a pile of paperwork scattered across my desk and table with wires everywhere, talk about a nightmare!. My dog was extremely traumatised, heâ€™d been barking almost non-stop all day long the neighbour told my Dad when he went over at about 6:30pm to feed the dog as I hadnâ€™t got back yet. My dog rarely barks at anything, now he barks at the least little thing, I am SO annoyed that they have done this to him!
Well thatâ€™s it, lock, stock and barrelâ€¦ how can anyone have any faith in our current justice system â€¦what the hell happened to the old belief â€œinnocent until proven guiltyâ€? Gits!
|posted by (2010-02-07 17:35:58)|
|Sad, and we are supposed to be civilized||
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