Farmers Won’t Get InternetAdded: Saturday, June 9th, 2012
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It seems that the Labour Party knows less about farming than about technology, as one of the MPs hit the headlines last week with his suggestions that rural broadband funding should be spent to other places – indeed, farming has existed without the web forever!
The MP suggested that public funding for faster broadband in rural Lancashire is better to be spent in industrial areas, because the benefits will be far greater. Meanwhile, Lancashire County Council and LEP were already spending around $50 million on faster rural broadband. However, it was still difficult to see how these investments would create jobs.
The MP claimed that demographics show that getting faster broadband won’t create jobs, the geography does too. Broadband is called to be only useful for new businesses, which are media intensive, don’t shift product and don’t meet customers. The only question is how many would fit that category.
In other words, rural people weren’t going to get better broadband. Both mobile devices and 4G were considered being of greater significance than landline fast rural broadband. Although the same argument could be applied to the government as well, few would answer the question of how many politicians have been sticking their paws up for free iPads. Instead, this is regarded by the MP as a class thing – as such, Lancashire’s rural population becomes a playground for the wealthy.
In response, the Countryside Alliance issued a statement, where it described the MP’s comments as “criminal”. In our digital era, fast and reliable broadband connection is as important as gas, electricity or water. For some reason, the MP didn’t understand how 2 decades ago farmers were among the first to get their businesses on the Internet and now they have about 90% of their administration online.
Twenty years ago, the National Farmers Union established an Internet service provider for farmers and spent a lot of efforts and money to make sure they realized that requiring 4 RAM to run wasn’t really a livestock requirement.
By the way, after the comments appeared in the news, the MP’s post has mysteriously disappeared. The suggestions are that the Labour Party Central office still hopes that the countryside voters could get hacked off that the Tory party is taking them out of the European Union, and away from their salary meal tickets.
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Saturday, June 9th, 2012
|posted by (2012-06-09 15:36:25)|
|what is the point in faster internet speeds if there is a data cap? and most ISP's have one. AT&T is 150gb (Uverse folks get 250 but Uvers takes away from that) Comcast is the same @ 150. charter varies. I don't know how much the other guys are but the Mobil providers are even worse. Verizon is like 5gb's no matter what plan, at&t is like 3gb's, sprint is 3gb's - 10gb's so WHAT IS THE POINT IN FASTER BROAD BAND!! BTW 'requiring 4 RAM to run" makes no sense.|
|posted by (2012-06-09 16:37:23)|
|thanks some local news !|
|posted by (2012-06-09 20:42:42)|
|@brods73: with AT&T no matter what you're speed is you still have a 150gb monthly cap. if you got 2mbs dsl and get upgraded to 12mbp you will just hit the cap way faster. and then what? if you go over AT&T cuts off your service! its in there service rules. this is IF you don't subscribe to Uverse. the ONLY way to get the 250 cap is Uverse. the hole point of data caps is this: ISP's claim that there equipment can NOT handle the new speeds and complain about the coast of upgrading and replacing it. so Y up grad speeds if you are gona cap people? btw streaming netflix kills your cap really fast! but they are not talking about upgrading 2mbs to say 12, they are talking about upgrading 100 to 500+ read up there a little better man, it says that rural will not get upgrades. they are implying to force them to use mobile broadband and there data caps are far worse. with out a cap with only 2mbp speeds with correct gear, IF you run it 24/7, can push up to 200gb's a month thru it. hell I did over 1tb on a 18mbp connection. now im on 30mbp and can easily push 2tb+ but my cap is 250gb. so like I said what is the point of upgrading with data caps?|
|posted by (2012-06-09 20:46:49)|
|UMM THIS IS ABOUT THE UK? why is it all in dollars?duh|
|posted by (2012-06-10 07:57:34)|
|@clamo you're totaly missing the point. its faster not more. a majority of people go nowhere near exceeding there limit. for instance BT cap there's at 100gb i have never gone over this cap yet i download movies pratically every day. for what reason would any person in normal circumstances use that amount. IMO speed is more important for this reason alone. people dont buy a ferrari because they got a big fuel tank....|
|posted by (2012-06-10 09:39:35)|
|@ don idd soemthing aint right here if its realy the UK then its £ not $ there are places here ppl got the same problem they cant get a internet connection soem are lucky to be able to get mobil usb connection but here were lucky its less then 1 € that cant get a decent connection.+ they always used a alot of millions here to fiber optic ect still still failed a shame should be a human right to get a fiber/decent connection|
|posted by (2012-06-10 23:03:51)|
|i have sky broadband in the uk and as far as i no its still the only isp that dont cap its users,ive never had no trouble with them, and most months i exceed well over 150 gig, i just hope they stick to what there doing and leave us alone....i cant see the point in bt having mega fast broadband same as virgin..if you cant download whats the point...i thought all this development in making the net faster is so it can move data across faster and handel more of it... but no doubt they dont think like we do,....lol|
|posted by (2012-06-11 01:26:39)|
|Im with Time Warner South and they have no data caps. Although the website talks about packages and plans, when you sign up they only offer speed plans without caps.|
|posted by (2012-06-11 11:21:57)|
|@clamo your quote - BTW 'requiring 4 RAM to run" makes no sense.|
it makes no sense that obviously you are highly educated and can comment on cyber threads, but drag yourself outside and live a little.
RAM in computing random access memory
RAM in livestock means a Male Sheep.
so the literary joke was made that 20 years ago farmers were educated in computing so "they realized that requiring 4 RAM to run wasn’t really a livestock requirement". That was a ply on words if you had an education you may have even smiled at the comment.
and remember when they are talking about twenty years ago memory was typically measured in Kb and then up to MB.
so if you understood the rest of the news post you would have also understood that it was a political comment saying that farmers dont need broadband and that the industrial area would be a better choice,
had nothing to do with caps on service??
|posted by (2012-06-11 23:00:52)|
|@MEthinks: it wasn't referring to male sheep. it was referring to computers. re-read it. cause it don't take 4 male sheep to run in livestock is only takes one to run. btw Ive lived on a farm before. and I did get the comment/joke. and EVERYONE needs broadband. but hers the thing, the government has already made the statement years ago that broadband needs to be a stander-ed everywhere in the US. they even told AT&T to put it out or else. well did they do it? NOPE. they paid there fines and moved on.|
@HiDefHQ: no you are missing the point. faster speeds are only required for LARGER files "bigger chunks" well with a bigger chunk if you have a cap...you WILL hit it faster. and I wouldn't buy a Ferrari for everyday driving. the whole point for faster internet speeds is to be able to push MORE thru it. faster speeds=more bandwidth= a larger pipeline.
btw folks: National Farmers Union is a US based union, so how is this talking about Europe?
|posted by (2012-06-12 13:38:17)|
|obviously I and everyone else who read it as a joke on farmers from back in the day are stupid,|
forgive my ignorance clamo we really need people like to run the world LOL
and by the way
NFU or national farmeres union (imagine that the UK had a national Farmers union too?)
About the NFU
harvesting wheat The NFU champions British farming and provides professional representation and services to its Farmer and Grower members.
It is the largest farming organisation in the UK, providing a strong, respected and independent voice for the industry.
Its head office is at Stoneleigh Park in Warwickshire, but it also has offices in London, Brussels, Wales, all the English regions and a unique network of local offices and advisers, co-funded by the NFU Mutual, to support the needs of its members locally, nationally and internationally.
|posted by (2012-06-12 17:46:04)|
|@clamo what? like i said faster line speed = faster downloads even if your capped at 100GB downloading is no slower it just means you cant download as much. but as i said before most people wont use there up there cap, concluding speed is better. lets say on average i download 50GB a month with a line speed of 16MB (1.8MB in reality) but then upgrade to a 100MB optic fibre but still only download 50GB a month im gonna get a faster download speed, instead of getting 1.8Mbs im now gonna get 5Mbs so instead of downloading a 5GB file in 30 mins @ 1.8Mbs it will now do it in 10 mins @ 5Mbs.|
|i use on average 4gb a day, 120gb a month. Thankfully TWC hasnt put caps on bussiness lines or there higher packages.|
My average usage is quite menial. 2-6 torrents, IRC, IM's, Pop3 mail, IMAP4 mail, Online Gaming(PC/X360), Netflix Streaming, Youtube and updating my linux clients that run on nightly software branches.
i easily hit 2-4.5GB a day, much more when i used to due Distributed Scientific Processing, which put me as high as 12gb of day. Average file sizes of 20-40Kb...
Problem is, Caps are pointless, and intended to increase Profit. But, EVERYONE, deserves fast and Reliable Internet Access. Most Rural US towns still are using Dial-up and Relying on Satellite or 3g providers which are pricey and have super-low data caps.
|posted by (2012-06-13 19:22:23)|
|@MEthinks: ok Lancashire is what was throw'n me off as there is one is the US as well. but there still is not solid evidence in this listing stating this is for Europe.|
there also is not evidence that's its related to the US. but um...no one is stupid! is the way its worded.
@HiDefHQ: 100mb does not =5mb's it's 10. LoL the hole point of faster speeds is to be able to download MORE faster. 2mb speeds limited to max of 2gb file or it will take longer, 6mb speeds you are limited to 5gb file or it will take a wile longer. 16mb speeds you are limited to 10gb file....@16mb speeds sure you can still grab more 2gb files but you will still risk hitting or even exceeding a cap if you got one at a faster rate. and the hole point of getting a 100mb connection is to be able to push a 50gb file threw it. other wise what is the point of paying $99 per month for it? some isp's even charge $150+ for speeds like that.
@anyone: no one truly understands how a data cap works on faster connections. and the only way you will is when you get a faster connection and they truly start to enforce it. any you all still don't get the hole point of faster speeds.
@kingtiger01: 4gb's a day is not average anymore its considered lite usage. the average date usage now is 10gb's per day. but isp's don't see it that way.
hell a friend of mine went from 3mb dsl speeds to 6mb speeds with a 150 cap, he has 4 users on his connection and they don't use it that much, just maybe for live tv viewing and he plays games and the rest just browse. well with just this small amount of usage they kill and go over there cap every month. he told me that the cap is killing them, even the isp considers them power users. "LoL". some times they even have to stop using the internet just to keep from getting suspension of service or even disconnected. even he would say the same thing to all you. LoL you ALL just don't get it.
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