Legitimate Alternative Won’t Stop PiratesAdded: Saturday, June 9th, 2012
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The entertainment industry disagrees with the studies saying that the more legitimate content there is available, at a reasonable price, the less likely people are to pirate.
AFACT (Australia’s Federation Against Copyright Theft) claimed that people won’t stop to illegally download copyrighted content even if they have local, legal access to the same content. The movie industry group claimed that piracy was inevitable and therefore the country needed to change the law to discourage it. The suggestions were that people may be drawn to piracy if films or TV shows screened later in the country than in the US. A good example to prove this was popular TV series Game of Thrones, which was heavily pirated in Australia.
The matter is that the consumers no longer want to wait for the show to air a week after the United States, and the anti-piracy outfit believed it unreasonable that pirates were unwilling to wait. It was claimed that there were legitimate services, and discussions around further availability; however, content pirates would be still engaged in unauthorized downloading as it’s free.
One of the unreleased researches commissioned by the Intellectual Property Awareness Foundation (IPAF) revealed that 86% of persistent infringers and 74% of casual infringers pirated because of cost. Over 75% of them knew about legitimate downloading services.
It seems that the cost of legal content is the main issue in places with low salaries where the cost of the product isn’t adjusted. Meanwhile, IPAF supports AFACT and the federation’s American sponsor, the MPAA, on its board of members among other copyright owners. That’s the people consistently overstating the cost of piracy to business.
Anti-piracy outfit argued that the legislation hadn’t kept up with the rapid cycle of technological change. Although a lot of people might agree with that, the argument of the entertainment industry that governments should lock up people on the flimsiest of evidence without making any changes to its business model is bogus as well.
However, the studios are recommended to release popular programs worldwide at the same time instead of releasing them in different places. If this is impossible, the industry should accept that the content will be pirated. In addition, instead of releasing material at a single price it needs to look at regional pricing and manage it with language dubbing.
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Saturday, June 9th, 2012
|posted by (2012-06-09 15:17:32)|
|Lol "A Fact". That's clever.|
|posted by (2012-06-09 16:01:56)|
|also what these Idiots are failing to take in to mind is the fact that over 1 million in the country that can work cant find jobs. but the price is NOT the only reason y stuff get copied. take for example a new movie ghost rider sov the 3D version, it was converted to 3D and it was terrible! and the price of this movie does not reflect the quality of the converted stereo. so Y should we pay top dollar for a crap conversion? star wars: it has been butchered! its not even a joy to watch any more. the stereo conversion of that movie was a JOKE! it was worse that the worse conversions. so quality plays a BIG part in this as well. now another problem is that some releases are exclusive to one country! example.....the re-release and remastering of spy kids 3 in 3D was ONLY released in one country. y is this? also almost ALL releases are released 1st in china....Y? is it because that's were they are made? if so then I know just how much they are to make, and even IF you lowered prices they will still be to HI. but the big reason y movies get copied is because WE are sick and tired of getting told what we can and can't do with the movies we buy! change laws to tighten control over this and expect it to increase!|
|Funny how they discredit the research without even giving it a trail run to find out themself. Pretty sure they know it will prove successful but they wish to gain as much profit as possible with as little time, money and manpower invested as possible.|
The current system allows for half assed films to be released and everyone but the film producers has to do all the hard work, they just pump in initial funding, but to setup a network/company that would allow them to simultaniously release films/shows all over the world at same time, to allow it to be accessed in more ways than tv, cinema, dvd & blueray would mean they have to invest millions to make that possible, add in the fact it would take them a few years to recoup that invesment if they priced stuff fairly and affordable, they do not see the benefit and cannot be bothered with it even if it will increase their long term turnover and profits. All about gimmi, gimmi, gimmi for these greedy fookers (lol in comparison a lot of the ET, PB and torrent users in general have the same mentality as the greedy industry fookers, they all gimmi, gimmi, gimmi too ahaha).
|Oh and another thing on Clamo's comment, he is right about the increasing laws and clamping down on offenders will only increase the piracy, if need be people will just attend their local market (not the council ones in city centre btw ) and just buy from the dvd pirate guy for £1 a copy (beats the nearly £7 for cinema to watch a crap movie!), I used to drive one of these guys to local markets every weekend, they are fearless in making money just like a drug dealer and I witnessed customs officials get beat up a few times when they tried to clamp down on his sales ahahaha. Best part was he could just run off through the farmers fields and hide in the hedgerows etc then call me for pickup a few miles away ahaha. In the meantime people would get free movies since his unattended stall would be picked dry in minutes lol leaving no evidence for customs funny times.|
|posted by (2012-06-09 22:24:48)|
|I'll be honest, i dont pirate because i want to try before i buy.. I pirate because im cheap and the fact that a dvd costs £10. On my days off from work I mostly just chill and watch movies on my computer, I dont even own a aerial lead for my tv mostly because normal tv blows chunks, i get through probably 6-7 movies a day when im off and i'll be damned if im going to pay £70-80 just to relax on my day off, they say these people should be paid for there work, I work my ass off for £8.90 hr 50 hrs a week and make in a year what these people make in a day so i find it hard to draw the slightest bit of sympathy for them. Im going to continue pirating movies, if you dont like it tough luck..|
|posted by (2012-06-10 01:56:02)|
|"...and the anti-piracy outfit believed it unreasonable that pirates were unwilling to wait.." lol... say, if there is a plate of nice juicy steak placed in front of you, and u're so damn f-ing hungry, don't tell me if u're gonna wait a whole hour before u can start eating it|
|its nothing to do with money why i download because im signed up to netflix and love film both services i pay a subscription for. its the simple fact of shows being aired months b4 they come out here in the uk. for example fringe i finished watchin that and the walking dead i finished both series off to the end ov the seasons and both shows have not even close to being aired in the uk. i mean they are being showed but are atleast a season behind and fringe i dont think has ever been aired in the uk.i dont find this fair because u see spoilers on youtube and allsorts b4 we even get to see it in the uk so thats y i dwnload and i bet its a reason for a lot of ppl downloading.|
|posted by (2012-06-10 10:39:09)|
|there is only a few things thats gonna reduce /maby stop piracy first prices for a fam to go see the movie should be cheaper think of a fam nornmaly 4 ppl thats exspensive the actor need to wake up not askign 500 million for there sucky part nr3 contry should stop delay movies for years soem do|
|posted by (2012-06-10 11:32:05)|
|living in australia were are getting ripped off by both the film and music industry when the simpsons movie was released in aust it was retailing at big w for $27.99 and yet on amazon.com it was selling for $9.99 it's the same with music for dvds and cds we seem to pay up to 60% more than the states and we're not the only ones it seem if you don't live in america you always pay more if they treated us as equals and release movie quicker on dvds they would stop piracy because people would rather by the real deal|
|Rob103 the problem your country has is it is so far out of the way, there are not many people willing to ship the items to your country for you to buy, since there are so few doing it the supply and demand pushes the prices up along with the greed of those knowing they can ask as much as they like for their limited imports and they will get it, as long as people want what they are selling that is.|
|posted by (2012-06-10 13:00:52)|
|Bull. We pirate because it's easy and it's free; we don't have to leave home. We would still do it if the movie was $1 and delivered free to our door. We turn on our computers, We search for a movie, We download the torrent file, and an hour later we have the complete film. As for tv series, they finish downloading before the popcorn finishes popping. Piracy will never stop. It's in our nature. Until they ban all bittorrent sites, all torrent interfaces, monitor all newsgroups, snoop on all instant messages, check all emails, open all postal mail...it will go on. What they are trying to do is stop technology from advancing. If they can do that, then they will succeed. If they can't, things will change, but piracy will go on. They need to reinvent the entire framework of entertainment, from sales to distribution. Instead they will go gestapo, and ultimately fail anyway. Mark my words. Note: This post was sent from my cell in San Quentin. Send letters to inmate #3451988. Very lonely here.|
|posted by (2012-06-10 13:54:12)|
|also got alot to do with taxes soem got insanly high other dont|
|posted by (2012-06-10 15:16:31)|
|Stop Piracy of Films but let POrn and games and Software go|
|posted by (2012-06-10 15:44:07)|
|Ok... The reasons listed are valid reasons by everyone... However.. some are what caused the problem to begin with and some are the result of the problem that they need to deal with...|
Like... If the Shows and movies were actually not Crap and we as a consumer had not grown up with the feeling the Hollywood has been stealing our money all these years, we would not have the society we have today where we want to hear word of mouth, or from a critic or someone else who has already previewed the release if it is worth our money to go see... but so often, we can't get a straight answer.. expecially when they push movies like The Hurt Locker, so much... And then when we are all let down, its a never ending cycle... So up comes this P2P thingy and we can watch and preview the movies ourselves before they get a chance to take our money.... Thats just the begining..
Then you have everything else tied into it... In the US, its not about having the content available legally... Its about supply and and demand... People continue to pirate because we don't trust new releases coming out to be worthly of our money.. Its always been like this... In the 80's/90's we would just wait for the movie to come out on HBO if it in any way looked subpar.... What they fail to factor into their "Loss of Profits" is the fact that if we never pirated movies, how many movies would we go to the theater to actually see? I seriously doubt their bottom line would increase dramatically...
And then once you are introduced into the whole Torrent thing, and you solve these problems of availability, waiting for whats new to come out, and worrying if the show is crap or not.... then the FREE part comes into play.. Thats what hooks everyone in the end... Granted, if they lowered their prices or somehow created a legal torrent system of somekind... many of us might flock to it... but to simply demand their prices when the economy is hurting... Their continued theft in the theater will only lead to even more piracy outside of it...
If we could trust Hollywood would never turn to downloading as an alternative to begin with.. but once you cross that line, its hard to stop...
|Pippy you are full of bull tbh, you just like everything in life to be free, you would not change your free loading ways even if they delivered the films to your door for 1 penny/cent because you like your feeling you get with thinking you screwed somebody over to get your free gift. Also how is pirating easier than clicking on an online service and watching legitimately after you log in on your legitimate service account? Oh right the legitimate one actually pays into the system that makes you the content you want for free, well if we all pirate and take your line then there really will be no money for the entertainment industry and they will no longer be blowing smoke out their holes about the losses due to piracy lol. Then you can enjoy Waynes world the real life version when no one is making content except these stones hippies and fools you see on youtube looking for 15 mins of fame.|
Most people will buy films, games & music if it is at a fair price, just look at Steam, video games used to be cheap when I started back in 2000 and I used to buy ever last game I played on cd/dvd, the prices have slowly gone up and I have slowly started to torrent games instead of buying, but ever since Steam started to introduce its sales and promotions which lowered prices upto 75% I have been buying games again since the sub par ones are cheap as chips when the sales come on them, the games I want and know are going to be good therefore I am able to buy since I no longer waste money on the sub par crap and have non left for the good ones. But if they lowered the prices in general instead of just in the sales, they would see the sales pick up and the overall profits for games increase.
I mean look at the call of duty series, they make 1 billion plus dollars per game ever since modern warefare 2 and only manage to shift around 10-20 million copies max, if the prices were half they would easily shift 3-4 times that many and make 2-3 billion dollars instead, but since it is easier and faster to shift less copies at higher price to make 1 billion they go with that approach.
Same goes for films, look at love film, netflix, people who would normally pay per rental and be pissed they rented a crappy film are no longer concerned about such issues, since they can watch all the films they like for a fixed rate per month and the rate is very reasonably priced.
|posted by (2012-06-11 02:59:44)|
|How much has angry birds grossed? heaps|
and how much did that cost the consumer? bugger all
when content is that accessible then I'd stop piracy.
|@ bigcow2k that depends if there is hot sauce being delivered for that steak or not Lol|
|posted by (2012-06-12 09:12:27)|
|I pay a licence fee for the Tv so downloading a show 6 months before it starts in the uk is no difference to them as as they still get paid for the series.|
Also we should be able to get a refund on a film at cinemas or DVD if we dont like it, most of the time they show a trailer and its all the best pieces of the film.
I do download & buy the film if I like it (only when I see it on a Car Boot cheap.
|posted by (2012-06-12 10:50:02)|
You're a child. Let me explain:
"Pippy you are full of bull tbh, you just like everything in life to be free, you would not change your free loading ways even if they delivered the films to your door for 1 penny/cent because you like your feeling you get with thinking you screwed somebody over to get your free gift. Also how is pirating easier than clicking on an online service and watching legitimately after you log in on your legitimate service account? Oh right the legitimate one actually pays into the system that makes you the content you want for free, well if we all pirate and take your line then there really will be no money for the entertainment industry and they will no longer be blowing smoke out their holes about the losses due to piracy lol. Then you can enjoy Waynes world the real life version when no one is making content except these stones hippies and fools you see on youtube looking for 15 mins of fame."
Didn't you read my comment at all? Of course I do it because it's free. It's the first and most compelling reason why. Was I unclear? It's not about screwing anyone over. I don't like screwing anyone over, or dislike it. I simply like, no, love, free. As for the entertainment industry going bankrupt...why should it? As I said, the entire structure of production and modes of compensation must be reimagined in order to keep pace with advancing tech. It's called evolving. What orgs like AFACT want to do is to ban, and or otherwise curtail web information, e.g. PIPA, SOPA. It's just a stepping stone. You let them put their foot on your back, and the next step is they boogie walk all over it. MPAA and RIAA would have the ability to blacklist any website they suspect, and our ISPs will no longer keep our privacy...private. Comprende? Also, why do you self "lol"? Isn't it embarrassing? Kids do that...
"Most people will buy films, games & music if it is at a fair price..."
Most, huh. Where are you getting your stats? Are you actively polling the world? Or do you just...suspect that 'most' do, and put it down because it sounded compelling? lol(I wasn't self loling. I was actually chuckling at your academic rigor)
"Same goes for films, look at love film, netflix, people who would normally pay per rental and be pissed they rented a crappy film are no longer concerned about such issues, since they can watch all the films they like for a fixed rate per month and the rate is very reasonably priced."
I'm impressed how you know people so well. Being omniscient is not easy I'd bet. Of course there are other moronic things I could post of your ramblings, like the spiel on what constitutes a bad film, game, or who isn't pulling their weight in the business, why x will work, or why y wouldn't... Have you not realized that taste is subjective, as is all aesthetics, and not an objective attribute? It seems as if you, figuratively, love the sound of your own voice, when in actuality, no one is really reading... Here is some advice...stop trolling this link hoping to see a response to give your life meaning. I've responded as a courtesy, and I hope you enjoyed it, but after this post, I can't any longer. I have other things to do. One post per customer should be enough. After all, this isn't really a forum. Don't take it so seriously. You won't find your self esteem here. Just let everyone feel the way they want to feel, and post what they want to post without you piping in with your 2 cents on how this person is wrong, how you are right, etc. Go back and reread your posts. Your logic...isn't very logical. Understand what 'conjecture' means. Ok, buddy? Good boy. Take care.
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