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Textbook Sharing Will Be Illegal Even Offline

Textbook Sharing Will Be Illegal Even Offline

Added: Sunday, June 17th, 2012
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Right To Share
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
The book industry, when faced the problem of file-sharing, used to raise a lot of questions about both moral aspects of the issue and certain circumstances sprung in a special context.


Today students have a possibility to share textbooks, and other related materials via several online services, from the BitTorrent trackers to Facebook’s new Group feature, for instance. However, it seems that the things are getting too complicated for the students. The matter is that Joseph Hengry Vogel, an economics professor, was granted a new patent which will help him stop this behavior among students to share or lend textbooks both online or offline.

Many would agree that the talk about getting your hands on a college degree is the talk about business, where the main idea to stop the impulse of sharing course-books is to discourage people by lowering their grades.

According to Joseph Hengry Vogel, the university staff is increasingly turning a blind eye when students appear with photocopied pages or facilitate piracy by placing texts in the library reserve, thus allowing others to photocopy them. Vogel also believes that borrowing or reselling is piracy as well, because it threatens the publishing industry. In other words, a student who wants to acquire a book from the local library may be not moral at all.

On the other side, if you buy a second-hand book, it’s OK as long as you also buy the access code for a “discount” rate. It’s both double fun for readers and double money for publishers. Anthem Press of London also supports the idea and shows quite the interest with this system. The experts point out that in case the system in question is really embraced, the lending system for books may just fall like a house of clay.

The only question here is who is checking on publishers? Undoubtedly, most students in the world had experienced this situation at least once in their life, (and this is especially true for college and university professors) that they were charged by the college not so friendly prices for the professors’ own books “or else” the grade at the exam would substantially drop. However, this is the kind of information that doesn’t often reach the media, so in case no-one writes about this, it is believed to not exist.

June 17th,2012

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Date:  Sunday, June 17th, 2012

Comments (10) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2012-06-17 20:33:47)
hrg avatarridiculous trying to up the charge to students for text books, chance of this actually working... 0.

posted by Blocked (2012-06-17 22:25:02)
No avatarTo be fair and honest most college courses require little to no textbooks to learn the subject at say A level in the UK, half the mark is on coursework the other end of year exams, which if you revise and take good notes from the teacher and textbooks in class you have all the information you need to pass with A*

As for university, every student can apply for a student loan to fund the course and materials, instead of trying to be cool and hip spending most of their loan on a new iphone, clothes, clubs and pubs at weekends, how about they buy the couple hundred pounds worth of books and materials they will need for the whole year then spend the rest on what they like?
As for other countries I cannot comment since I do not know how the systems work.

posted by Blocked (2012-06-17 22:41:33)
menahunie avatarCopying the complete text book would likely be a violation; unless you have permission.

Under the fair use and many states- possibly except Puerto Rico where this azzhole is - including mine copying parts of a text book like a number of pages or graphs etc. is allowed.
There is also a form from McGraw that publishes many textbooks to get permission to copy allot more even the whole textbook for their course.
Many Universities also have a procedure and guidelines about copying textbooks as I just mentioned.
One University where I am I can copy pages out of a textbook LEGALLY; it is in the states laws allowing it..
This Mr VOGEL is an azzhole professor in Puerto Rico.
His so called PATENT is where a student has to BUY and get an access code to register to take a class; no code they can't take the class.
Given the high cost of tuition and people struggling this really make poor economic sense for any University; Students would then go else where for their education that doesn't use this pure money motivated attitude this so called professor and other show.

Anti-Piracy Patent Stops Students From Sharing Textbooks

June 10, 2012

A new patent granted this week aims to stop students from sharing textbooks, both off and online. The patent awarded to economics professor Joseph Henry Vogel hopes to embed the publishing world even further into academia. Under his proposal, students can only participate in courses when they buy an online access code which allows them to use the course book. No access code means a lower grade, all in the best interests of science.

For centuries, students have shared textbooks with each other, but a new patent aims to stop this “infringing” habit.

The patent in question was granted to Professor of Economics Joseph Henry Vogel. He believes that piracy, lending and reselling of books is a threat to the publishing industry.

“Professors are increasingly turning a blind eye when students appear in class with photocopied pages. Others facilitate piracy by placing texts in the library reserve where they can be photocopied,” Vogel writes.

The result is less money for publishers, and fewer opportunities for professors like himself to get published. With Vogel’s invention, however, this threat can be stopped.

The idea is simple. As part of a course, students will have to participate in a web-based discussion board, an activity which counts towards their final grade. To gain access to the board students need a special code, which they get by buying the associated textbook.

Students who don’t pay can’t participate in the course and therefore get a lower grade.

The system ensures that students can’t follow courses with pirated textbooks, as tens of thousands are doing today. Lending books from a library or friend, or buying books from older students, isn’t allowed either. At least, not when the copyright holders don’t get their share.

Vogel’s idea leaves the option open for students to use second-hand textbooks, but they still have to buy an access code at a reduced price. This means publishers can charge multiple times for a book that was sold only once.

Needless to say, publishers are excited about gaining more control in the classroom. Anthem Press of London has already expressed interest in the system and Pat Schroeder, president of the Association of American Publishers, also welcomes the idea.

“For every rogue site that is taken down, there are hundreds more demanding similar effort. I can’t think of a more timely example of the need for additional tools,” she says.

On the surface the idea might seem well-intentioned, but to proponents of an open knowledge society it goes completely in the wrong direction. If anything, the Internet should make it easier for students to access knowledge, not harder or impossible.

While it’s understandable that publishers want to stop piracy, preventing poor students from borrowing textbooks from a library or friend goes too far.

Perhaps it’s a better idea to approach the problem from the opposite direction.

Thanks to the Internet, publishers are replaceable. And since many of the textbook authors are professors who get paid by universities, it is not hard to release books in a more open system.

Professor Vogel believes that sending more money to publishers helps academia, which might be a flawed line of reasoning. Isn’t it much better to strive to make knowledge open and accessible, instead of restricting it even further?

posted by Blocked (2012-06-18 01:53:07)
skreamer avatarI wonder what JH Vogel thinks of people reading a book and then relaying that same information and knowledge gained (from said book) to other people in the form of speech and discussion? The mind boggles!

posted by (2012-06-18 12:17:07)
Krucifier avatarThis guy sounds like a Nazi, he'll be burning textbooks next. Once CISPA passes and academia control the distribution of knowledge you'll have to change your country's name to The National Socialist States Of America, the NSSA. That's kinda catchy.

posted by (2012-06-18 12:40:33)
kingtiger01 avatarseriously... if things like this and CISPA is pushed, ill make my own damn country... im tired of this crap!

posted by (2012-06-18 16:41:32)
bs313 avatari'll make me a new country as well, with blackjack... and hookers !

posted by Blocked (2012-06-18 17:04:23)
No avatarand weed

posted by (2012-06-18 18:03:39)
JohnnyBlade avatarthey can get around this easy enough if the cost of the textbooks were included in the registration fee.. you register for your classes, get a printout that is redemable at the campus bookstore... end of issue.

posted by (2012-06-20 01:19:28)
Slimjim avatarJohnnyBlade..... perfect solution. This is also my thoughts.
Make everything included in 1 price. as the tuition and fees are rising too fast here in the US.
Soon only the rich will be able to afford a higher education.

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