American Authorities Demand Money from MegaUpload MembersAdded: Monday, June 18th, 2012
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The American authorities, who possibly illegally seized the information of millions of MegaUpload users, are currently demanding that the users pay to get the data back. American federal prosecutors claim that they will allow the MegaUpload customers to recover their content if they pay for it.
In compliance with the recent court filing, the prosecutors had to respond to an Electronic Frontier Foundation’s request 2 months ago on behalf of Kyle Goodwin, who used the hosting service legitimately for storing videos.
Legislation of the United States allows for the 3rd parties who have an interest in forfeited property to make a claim. However, the authorities argue that they only copied part of the MegaUpload information, while the company’s physical servers have never been seized. It is known that the company’s 1,103 servers were held by Carpathia Hosting firm, but the US government explained that identifying, copying, and returning the plaintiffs’ information would be too expensive, while Goodwin wants the US authorities, or MegaUpload, or Carpathia Hosting, or whoever else other than himself, to bear the cost.
In response, the US government claimed that while it’s wrong for the cyberlocker to profit from storing user content, it’s fine for either it or Carpathia Hosting to do the same. In other words, it turns out that Kim Dotcom was arrested for selling storage space for content to people, and now the American government seized that content and can sell it back to the same people at a high cost. That’s a great business idea – to make money out of nowhere!
Meanwhile, the case against MegaUpload is now unraveling on procedural problems, and the American authorities want to keep punishing its customers. Those, by the way, will suffer even if the cyberlocker is never convicted.
thanks to TorrentFreak for the source of the article
June 18th,2012Posted by:
Monday, June 18th, 2012
|I can't tell you how shitty this is, i mean seriously?|
"In response, the US government claimed that while it’s wrong for the cyberlocker to profit from storing user content, it’s fine for either it or Carpathia Hosting to do the same. In other words, it turns out that Kim Dotcom was arrested for selling storage space for content to people, and now the American government seized that content and can sell it back to the same people at a high cost. That’s a great business idea – to make money out of nowhere!"
|posted by (2012-06-18 21:42:43)|
|Americans! this is getting ridiculous hopefully the Russians will blow them out the water after this attack helicopter stuff in the papers, and please don't bother with the not all Americans are bad, a country chooses its government|
|hrg the normal American does not choose there government. its rich ahols buying office and the media that choose our government here in the us. maybe if u had any idea why you where talking about u would know this..everyone always bashes on Americans when we the ppl have done nothing. BASH US GOVERNMENT NOT ITS PPL. for the most part we would join right in..trust me!|
|Thing about this very vague article is what authorities are they saying is doing this?|
Also since this action took place due to RIAA and MPAA as major players they are also liable for the expense in returning if found illegally seized property to the legal owners and can not charge them for it. To do otherwise is just plain extortion..
Let the law suits begin..
I also agree with thedeadone420 - American people are not doing this and they are mostly correct; we don't get to vote for the best person for the job; only the lesser of evils.
Case in point: OBAMA spent BILLIONS for the job he has now and continues to ignore set law.
This corrupt government issue is world wide and covers many many countries most likely HRG yours is also involved in corruption as well...
|we chose our government when every man and every family had a gun, we were the largest standing force in the world, the government and the army had to bow to the will of the people, though briberies continued the fear of a chest full of bullets kept politicians off of the breifcase full of money, but then the great disamring happend, the american people are more disarmed than ever, we no longer weild the fear of the ppl, the government is no longer afriad of its people, and spreads fear to the people, now the ppl have no guns the politicians take the money from the ritch and squash our freedoms, please some one help the american peoples re attain freedom, if you dont the rest of the world will fall prey to the monstery we allowed too much freedom to grow. assassinations should be a legal right.|
|the lesser of evils, spends time squashing thoes who represent the definitive voices of the people and replace the voice with generalized vague bullshit that sound good but in truth do nothing to support what the ppl want, then as a countermeasure just incase one of the true representitives slip through the econimic and public face attacks, they create what is known as the all mighty douche that no one will vote for so that they can stand next to a p!le of shit and look good. tada obama,|
|when the rich vote with money, the poor votes dont count, the poor get sent to war or prison, the rest are labled leechers of society and are ignored, the middle class is dying everyones rich or poor now. how do the rich vote with money? they fund the choices to be and let the alternative choices get burried under the media. remember folks, when there is a lack of good choice dont vote, grab a gun and make room for more choices, that is what this country was built for. peace through violence and the constant threat of revolution.|
|under this fearocracy, the only way to beat the fear is to dish it out, how can we be afraid of terrorists when where screaming bloody hell with shattered teeth and an automatic shotgun with explosions goin off everywhere, make dead bodies, then make babies. or we can do it like the neo facist evangelists who create white only middle of no where communities that turn into towns with there own police force raising there kids to be nothing but politicians, teaching them how to blend in with normal society, there flooding us with future candidates that will push evangelist agendas at all cost, thats where we should start murdering, at these evangelist breeding towns, because thats the next thing coming, where already boned on this corrupotion, but its not as bad as the religious corruption on the way, fear religion and state, because there is nothing but brutal violence jihad and crusade that can save us from a new christian evangelist nazi like regime. spread the violence its the only way thats still not to late|
|We Americans vote for a our government yes, but the government chooses who they want not us! Obama didn't win shit, but the government felt we needed a black man in office because it would be racial profiling if they didn't; which is a crock of shit if you ask me. Americans suffer because the government either takes their homes with eminent domain or taxing the poor outrageously while the rich get drunk and don't pay taxes. We the people of America could do better with no government, but yet we the people are labeled bad because of our piece of shit government. There will be a war, not with another country; but within this country itself between the people and our government.|
|posted by (2012-06-19 01:02:17)|
|GoreKnight...You Sir are a fool. Nuff Said.|
|posted by (2012-06-19 01:04:53)|
|PurgetheCorrupted69..I agree hale-heartedly with every word m8..Im from the Uk and its been that way for years here.|
|posted by (2012-06-19 03:23:20)|
|theres only one government ...the illuminati, bush/obama are just puppets with out the strings....its allways been that way and it allways will be ..|
|Jumbo, your right... Everything you see on the news is to control us, what technology we use today we could of had 10 years ago. Everything you do on a daily basis is watched and monitored no matter who you are.|
|The Government was created to try a civilize the people and control them at the same time. Who does the President follow orders from; don't tell he makes the orders because that's a lie. Everyone has a someone above them no matter how much power they have.|
|Yup Illuminati / NWO / Bilderberg, run everything.|
Its too late for even the 'normal' person to do anything about it.
You can't demonstrate against anything, or you will be locked up as a 'terrorist' with no trial or anything.
Oh dear, were all buggered and there is nothing left to stop it....
|posted by (2012-06-19 13:55:54)|
|the usa is so full of shit .|
|No matter what the issue is we do not want rascist religious zelots inciting terrorism and that is all Gore Knight is doing here. Not one word on the subject in hand. To quote the Australian Prime minister "If you don't like it get out.This man sanctions murder of innocent children because they are born into christian families to me thats a much more important issue than corrupt governments of which the Muslim nations have more than their fare share.|
Democratic Governments where started by the Roman Empire and with it came the corruption we should all be us to it by now and accept that big business is the true ruler in any developed nation. If a wrong has been done, and it clearly has here use the judicial system and as for revolution take a leaf out of Martin Luther Kings and Ghandis books. Nothing to do with religion and the right to bear arms.
|posted by (2012-06-19 15:51:42)|
|ty[ical america screw anyone for a buck|
|"The American authorities are currently demanding that the users pay to get the data back."|
By that logic I should be able to demand that Hollywood studios pay to get their data back from me if they say I've downloaded one of their movies illegally. That's right, Hollywood, you can buy your data back from me! It's yours, isn't it? Open your wallets!
|@hrg : usually when people state their opinion (which is mwarly what it is) and tack on a "please don't bother" roughly translates to "I know my opinion holds absolutely no truth, so instead of manning up and defending my opinion with logic, I'll simply avoid that (being a.coward) and ask people not to reply with something that's sure to shoot down my opinion".|
|posted by (2012-06-19 18:43:40)|
|@goreknight. whens the cool-aid being served o0|
|posted by (2012-06-19 18:59:19)|
|@livensflame: that's exactly right.|
they technically Illegally stole from us. "and in truth they really did steal from us, as downloading isn't stealing from them as the data is not coming from them its from other people that have already bought the goods" but because the US ha already made an arrest with incorrect warrants and never provided the correct ones before the deadline, well they have been in the wrong since min one as the arrest was incorrect do to the wrong warrant's. way word of how the court systems are soposta work, this should have been dismissed a long time ago. but see that's just the problem the courts in the US are corrupted.
so don't expect to get your data back unless some one grows some balls and sues the US. "ya know I still don't see y these to don't sue the US for a false arrest?"
but ya if they want ALL this data that I have on my computer back I demand they buy it back!
lets see here that's 250k per movie and 5years in federal prison that they have accused us for stealing, that's more money than they probably have "or is it? tax evasion is a crime so lets tack that on to this as well wile we are at it" just for one folder they owe me $28,250.000+ and 5years just for accusing me of stealing from them. "that's not including the tax evasion" "btw that's nothing compared to what they make off of one movie". if they want the data back pay up!
"this is just figuratively speaking, in the real world if it worked the correct way they can't really get any body for infringement as its not"
btw folks a friend of mine bought a amazing spiderman re-print comic and it came with a dvd with all kinds of extras and one of the new fbi warnings was on it and it states now that copywriters are now considered terrorists. BS! you are terrorists! because you are terrorizing us for this crap! "that's what the definition of terrorists means, to strike terror in to some one" simply put you are trying to scare us in to doing what you want.
|It's always the guy in the crowd who is eager to throw his two cents in and complain about how the band sucked, or so and so was doing this or that wrong,,but who actually gets up in front of a crowd, or knows how to play an instrument?|
If you have not even lived in a country you are bad mouthing I'm glad to know that it's wise enough to consider that closed mindedness and negative perspective is not the majorities viewpoint of a country that is one of the most loved and strongest because of it's foundation. What the U.S. was founded upon and flourished from was the truth of saving and accepting. Not the judging and condemning that it has been Frankensteined into. Like with any world power throughout History greed and corruption has sunken its teeth into and manipulated roots that once were Just and faithfully believed in. Yes, it is a puppeted agenda of the illuminazi, but to state that the 5 to 1 are choosing what is pumped out from an over bloated friendbot of twisted mass media shows that it reverses the robotic puppet effect and allows the oneness the elite seek and come closer to when numbers of the masses fall victim to division. This is a dimensional battle waged along with a global battle. It goes much deeper than the level of depth they would like you to be distracted to buy into. Don't just consume the first plate that shifts in front of you. Remove hate from the plate. Yes, countries can feel indifference, but what do these Caesar's take that people like hrg don't already render? Remember, there are only two masters and you can only serve one. One love. The love of money is the root of all evil. America has thrived and made its buck, but how did we spend it? From what I see I'd say nukes and fear/War and Media. The leaders of today posting Pirates seeking victims ads. I'd rather have all three eyes than one. There was an article posted a few days ago about how movie subtitles may be illegal. Talk about reaching for straws. How much fear could one pay the media to remind the masses they linger just to finger a pirate? I don't understand how the leaders of today get away with being actual pirates and the downloaders of today being called pirates. Please notice that the definition of a pirate hardly accounts to the reasons I download as I'm sure is a mutual motivation for others coined as scourges of the sea. I enjoy art and creativity. The originators,,or conduits who most often then not have been through hades and back to bring others their stories of beautiful pain that could have been years of experiences wrapped up in a four min song, a two hr movie, a digital canvas, or even a program that saves us three extra clicks and allows other artists to create in the comfort of their homes.That programmer could have lost actual relationships with others to work all hrs to bring that app to life, and these originators are not the ones complaining about the money, or the lack of more money. To tie this together I love the U.S. What it was originally created upon and still has the potential to be. It's not always the record label that have all the artists under its label best interests in heart and mind, but the artists go on creating and giving because they do (Normally, or they couldn't do what they do) possess within heart and mind good intentions towards fans and future fans. Every four years we get two choices (O and a third party who media depicts as never having their stuff together) and those choices were already ordained to be the puppets the NWO has groomed. We choose the lesser of those evils. Back when it was Gore Vs. Bush, Gore had and won the peoples vote, but it proved to the American people that no majority RocKs any vote when their decision was stonewalled and congresses electoral votes were the ones who elected Bush. So to hrg if your pro life there's Street fighter II (You can be Zangief if ya want) or if your pro choice we have Mortal Kombat II (with Katanas fan throwing babality glitch included) ,but either one will ruin your acting career and turn you american just by association. So don't hate the gamers. It's indifference towards the game.
|The people should not fear their government; the government should fear it's people.|
The end is not what is near...the only thing that is near is the revolution. People of the US, myself included, are tired of living in a government-induced police state. We are sick and tired of paying taxes only to see no return. All our tax dollars go to finance everything from the luxurious lifestyles of elected officials (which were elected by money, not the people) and to finance wars that the people don't want.
If another country were to attack the US government, it would have the support and assistance of the majority of American citizens. We are sick and tired of this bullsh*t of money running this beautiful country straight into the ground.
Anyone notice how the American people are being slowly disarmed? The first thing Hitler and Napolean did during their rise to power was......disarm the people. So, buy firearms while you still can, and buy even more bullets.
"Bullets change governments far faster than votes do" - Yuri Orlov (Lord of War)
|While the right hand of the USA justice system (and I use the word “Justice” loosely) beats it’s chest in the name of justice regarding internet piracy, the left hand illegally does it's own pirating, by way of misappropriation of legal and legitimate media from Megaupload and it’s clients and then seeks to make money from the very same ill-be-gotten booty, by trying to sell it back! We’ll just call the USA “Captain Hook” and Kim Dotcom “Peter Pan” of which I have the movie thanks for that. I fully support Megaupload, Kim Dotcom and would gladly donate the cost of a movie ticket or CD in aid of internet freedom and the downfall of these greedy media moguls. What a joke!!!|
|posted by (2012-06-21 00:58:01)|
|"returning the plaintiffs’ information would be too expensive"|
Well tough shit. They should have realised that before they began this (Il)legal action.
Here's the thing. Here in the UK, the LOSER of a Court Case HAS to PAY THE EXPENSES of the other side.
I would LOVE to see all MU users claim expenses for loss of their information. Hell I had a few personal files up there myself - vids and pics I'd taken myself of my own life.
So they want to charge us because they took our property from us? Fukcing real Gangstas.
With their conduct in mind I'd be really glad to be doing things they don't want me to do.
|@thedeadone420 & PurgetheCorrupted69|
So much for "We the People" if your country wants to keep it's pride in it's bill of rights then you need to all start sereiosly thinking about changeing your Electoral system, it is the whole reason your political system is so corrupt. Unless Americans get serious about changing to Propotional representation or some other Democratic process intead of the farce you currently practice and not one that can be Bought and Paid for as your system is now. Unless Each and Every American starts taking a little responsibility for their country and getting off their A$$es and protesting for Change you will never have any say in how your country is run. As things stand you all ignore the problem and expect someone else to fix it while saying "It's not my fault, Blame the Government." That Goverenment is there because not enough of you bother Trying to put someone in power who will run the country for it's people, not it's corporations.
|True, the end is not near. It's gonna be a convergence and a time for change, but it's not gonna be guns pointed at the white house. I agree with last few posts that the US is gonna have to rise against congress and if any change is gonna be realistic. Getting rid or changing of the electoral process is key. People may have wanted to call hippies lazy potheads, but at least they got off their duffs and protested by taking to the streets which you are seeing people camping out on wallstreet and rallying other places around the US. It's funny how in the past they would have people on top of the buildings taking flash photography photos of the crowds and the people protesting would scatter because of big brother and there was no film even in the cameras,,,but today as protesters any would gladly be photographed or youtubed to utilize the media coverage. On a side note,,,How many times must I buy a movie to own it and call it mine. 1st I pay the movie ticket price,,,,then if I wanna own it on bluray I have to realize not everyone owns a bluray so maybe then I buy it on dvd,,,but then if I want to watch it on my psp I gotta buy the movie on the psp mini disc format,,or if I wanna play it on my ipod/ipad I gotta buy the movie file from itunes. How many formats before I actually own this movie? It's a monopoly of formats that the industry does make their money in some form or another. Remember the days of putting like six movies on a vhs and how serious of a big deal it was?I guess I was a terrorist even then and didn't even know. I agree the gov should be for the people,,not the people fearing the gov. All our tax dollars have yet to give us the cures we are in desp need of. Disease feeds America, Just diabetes alone the costs are like milking a cow. Testing strips,,needles,,alcohol swabs,,lancets,,two diff kinds of insulin's in separate vials,,all the different meds that are of need because of all the complications that spring from this disease,,the monthly Dr. visits. I know bcuz at age 17 my Mom died from type 2 complications and that same year I was diagnosed with type 1. A year and a half ago my three year old Sonshine was diagnosed with type 1. We both have almost died a few diff times and hospital costs don't help any. All the different diseases we have are a way of weening down the masses and keeping population down. If anything I do not fear 2012,,in some ways it actually gives me hope for something to look forward to because something has gotta change. Something has gotta give,,,after so much take take take. Downloading is not the bigger issues. Besides what about so many who live in America or anywhere for that matter that are stricken with bad health, or are bed ridden and can't just go out and get a cd ,or go out to catch a movie. I thought that the tv was invented to keep us distracted and within our walls so we don't just have masses of peoples walking the streets. They wanted us inside and to do what? So we get bored and download. We have never had such a high rate of people who have been diagnosed agoraphobic in all time. A friend once told me that it all started with the garage door opener. Because that way we only get out of the car to go to work and back. Food,,banking,,we have drive-through windows for that. But now we don't even have to say hi to our neighbors,,,just pull into garage and go we are home. After all these years you would think that along with all the rights we have (the ones that they still allow us to have) That we should have the right to know where our taxes are going especially if not into some form or another to help the economy. This thread is a scenario that reminds me of how Dirty cops go in and seize large quantities of drugs and then turn right around and pull it out of drug lockup and sell it and put it back out into the streets to only give it a little while until they seize them up again and rinse and repeat. Kinda reminds me of the format issues,,,why should you have to re-purchase something you already own? Just because I don't like our leaders, and I mean really don't like. Their actions which are by the few in power (The illuminazi) I still keep faith in the American People to discern and see that time for evil is running out, and it knows it so as the end of days draw shorter it's ugly face will start showing itself more visibly than ever. Hold your family close. Change the story. Don't let bro turn against bro, or sister against Mother. A lot of info is coming out that hold half truths. It's how manipulation seduces. They give you a piece of the truth and than like the borg they assimilate the rest to keep you distracted by your imagination and what if's,,but when the whole truth is known you will feel it louder than goosebumps. Yes, read up on the pineal gland and how it becomes calcified in time,,but be leery of DMT it opens the doors of perception into places that you will not be protected from and it has been researched that it has caused many who cannot handle it's ideas to come back a vegetable,schizophrenic, impotent (that one scares me the most) severely handicapped, increased anxiety and phobias. Like the alien phenomenon the gov is using this as half a truth to manipulate. They are saying this aliens are trans dimensional beings. No, they are demons. Don't think that there is a self level or plane of existence that you can meet them on while still in a physical body. You can laugh or you can google and do the research. The US government is very corrupt. All know that they stand for is dark and evil and rooted in money and greed. I saw a doc once that had this mayan on it that was transcribing what the myan tabulates actually say and they don't speak of a destruction, but of an ancestral return. All these crappy things that are happening are leading up to something good. Again I just wanna say draw close to your families, increase your depth of love. This place fights love with fear and where love is, fear is vacant. Don't let those who distract with lawsuits or pettiness distract your focus to think it's about money. Like my dad always said,,ya can't take it with ya,,,so focus on what you can take with you. Learn and grow with what time is left. No one can extort that from you.|
|posted by (2012-06-23 03:35:11)|
|FFS are you people this bored.....wander off topic much.....thanks for the post SaM sorry about the children!|
|It all relates and intertwines, but glad stanley was elected to apologize for those who speak.||
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