America Realized Pentagon Didn’t Invent the InternetAdded: Sunday, July 29th, 2012
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The United States finally admit that its glorious government didn’t actually invent the web.
For years the United States has trotted out what amounts to an urban legend that it was Pentagon who created the net in order to keep its communications lines up even in a case if nuclear strike. This legend was used to explain why America should control the global domain system, not some international world body.
The legend in question was recently spouted by the President, who used it as proof that the government really was important to the development of technology. Barak Obama said that the web did not get invented on its own – it was government research that created the net in order to allow all companies to profit from it.
Nevertheless, media reports revealed that some in the United States have conceded it was much more complex than what is told in the legend. By the 1960s all technologists were making attempts to connect separate physical communications networks into a single global network. Although the Pentagon’s Advanced Research Projects Agency Network was also working in this direction, it wasn’t close to maintaining communications in the event of a nuclear attack, and it did not create the Internet.
Robert Taylor, the person who ran the ARPA program 5 decades ago, sent an email to technologists in the 21st century, saying that what Arpanet had wasn’t an Internet. The latter is a connection between 2 or more computer networks, but Arpanet was nothing like that.
Robert Taylor explained that the full credit should go to Xerox PARC labs, where he was working in the 1970s – the Ethernet was first developed there to connected different computer networks. Meanwhile, Xerox PARC researchers realized that waiting for the authorities to connect networks was hopeless because ARPA was too slow and bureaucratic.
At the same time, Xerox, although having invented the Internet, managed to miss a major trick – in fact, the company was only interested in selling photocopiers, so its interest in the web was to share a printer. And it was Ethernet technology that connected networks together.
Finally, the real Internet appeared when Vinton Cerf created the TCP/IP protocol, the Internet’s backbone, and Tim Berners-Lee developed hyperlinks.
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Sunday, July 29th, 2012
|Fact is American ingenuity did create the first computers, and network communication between computers. Many other great minds along the way from all over the world have made the internet into what it is today. The majority of Americans do not think they own the web, or should control the web. So don't be putting us down for the actions of the greedy powers that control us. I find your opening statement most offensive Sam.|
|Well I find it real funny how 2 lib democraps have taken credit for things they barely even understand. All these liars jumping up to take credit for something that worked because they have never produced one thing that benefited anyone but themselves! and NO I'm not a republican I do not believe in the party system at all, in fact look at how parties resemble religions Christianity and Islam even their core ideals and actions are very the same. Party system is set up this way because it controls people and distracts from them they no longer live for their own lives and well being but for the few up top while being promised that they will be better when they win and they will but it is set up for the masses to always lose and blame the other side while they sit like fat cats!|
|Avoid all the political chit-chat and just give Sam props for the article. Thanks Sam for doing the research and work others are too lazy but always complain about. #nosleepgang|
|posted by (2012-07-30 09:59:17)|
|Thanks Sam for the article, I didn't know the Xerox Parc lab invented the internet as well as the ethernet, the mouse, gui and the a4 monitor- whatever was in the water at the lab, I want some.|
|posted by (2012-07-30 10:10:24)|
|Interesting article. Indeed it's good to remember that the history of the web is long and complicated, and has a lot to do with a few brilliant precursors, all over the world, working together, often without realizing it (some working on TCP/IP, others on the Ethernet protocol, the DNS, fiber optic, ...). Now to make it evolve it's "easier" because we have all their work to use, but it's good sometimes to remember that at that time, it was often a couple of guys in a company lab (or university, or garage) having an idea and starting from NOTHING.|
Just a quick note to #1 : I agree with most of your post, and the idea behind it, just I can't help but to add to your first phrase "Fact is American ingenuity did create the first computers, (...)" Of course it depends what you call a computer (you can if you really want says that the first computer was 2000 years ago) but in the "modern sense" I would say that you can argue that the first computers were invented by the Brits during WW2 (Tommy Flowers, Alan Turing, with the Bomb, the Colossus, ...). Or even slightly before that the Z1 (German).
Now if you're talking about the first PERSONAL computers, then yes, Americans definitely paved the way with Jobs and Wozniak, Gates, etc...
|posted by (2012-07-30 10:18:19)|
|I remember using the Commodore 64 computer in the early 80's to go online with no browser at the time (text base only) way before the first IBM home computer came out in 1985.|
|@ JamesHotwire your mistaken about the first network computer's it was actually the Russian's mate. The USA was wondering how the Russian's were communicating with each other over long distance's without the aid of radio's in the early 50's and Alan Turing was the founding father of stored data on computer's. The revolution of computer communication came from the Russian's and America was first to hack that system.|
|posted by (2012-07-30 14:04:31)|
|I always funny and not a little disgusting how hypocritical people can be these days. Here you all are using American Internet browsers on mostly American operating systems and mostly American processors to enjoy American Bitorrent on mostly American invented networks using mostly American company technology and download what amount to mostly American created content. Those horrible ignorant world wrecking Americans! Hell you probably even ate American food more than once this week and half your household products are from American brands no matter what country you live in.|
Seeing most of you are Desi - what has Pakistan or India contributed to the world? Tea?
|"Here you all are using American Internet browsers on mostly American operating systems and mostly American processors to enjoy American Bitorrent on mostly American invented networks using mostly American company technology and download what amount to mostly American created content"|
...all reliant on hardware built in China or other such countries that have low wages by American corporations who are interested in profits before American jobs, all the while championing American innovation. Perhaps those lowly tea-producing nations have actually contributed far more to American-this and American-that than you'd like to admit.
|Actually those countries that build this shit, just look at the plans, the innovation is all done in america though. get your facts strait scrub|
|america has never invented anything,it's only the indian scientists which they can buy with dollars have made the technology worked for them...but china is far way better than usa!!|
|@seksor do your history mate i think you'll find it was scotsmen and irishmen that built up americas infrastructure as you know it today|
they designed most of your buildings and built new york for example
you are still a very young country with little history compared to europe
go have a look at google i am a scotsman these were some of my history lessons as kids looking at where our history spread too.. oh i forgot we gave the world the bicycle the phone the tv animal cloning and penicillin invented electomagnetics the radar the steam engine insulin the pneumatic tyre the automated teller machine thats me just scratching at the surface the list is endless FACT
|i forgot during my rant thanks for the article sam nice 1|
|ww2 bitches brits made the first computers put secrets act let america take the credit|
|posted by (2012-07-30 23:58:56)|
|Thanks for the article Sam though yet again it provides cause for "discussion". Fact is JamesHotwire American ingenuity did not invent the first computers...though to deny American as well as global ingenuity in respect of computer development would be churlish. We could sit here and all list why such and such does not own such and such. Most inventions are really developments of existing ideas. Machines to compute? look to the Greeks and a 2000 year old computing device (seriously, Google it). Worlds first computer that we'd recognise? tricky one that. Colossus and Eniac could I think both share the honours, though Colossus was running during WW2 and Eniac, more stable and more powerful, just after. Both would have been impossible without the work of Alan Turing to name just one computer pioneer and both derived in the long run from the work of Polish cryptographers in the 1930 and device called the Bomba and in the end developed into "Baby" the worlds first stored program computer. As for machines talking to each other? 1865 - the Pantelagraph a forerunner of the fax, or 1881 the first scanning fax. Be proud of your Countrys innovations but don't use them as a sword of arrogance.|
|Without computers the internet is a moot subject and the first computers (valve type not mechanical) were built in England.|
As with all technology others develop on what is invented and in most cases improve it over time,the transistor was also not an American idea but a Canadians,etc,etc,whilst some credit for advances go to America it must also go to a lot of other people globally,American ignorance still amazes me and I see America as a country of the gullible and arrogant who mainly believe Bill Gates created the PC and never heard of Unix or believe that Unix is a castrated Negro servant in Cleopatra's era.
|warned again!!,I am so naughty|
Giving credit where due is good, but this said at the end of the day does it really matter where something originates? Who know what the real genesis of an idea or concept is? Doesn't it matter more who is making the most/best use of it at any given point in time?
Finally, to all the chest thumpers, nothing lasts forever... The only certainty is that the wheel turns.
|It must be said that without the ideas of others which are adopted and developed by others no innovation would occur,I myself was responsible for (PARG)Paul Graham's plug in for DHT in Azureus when as a developer on sourceforge.net and hearing the cry for decentralised torrenting I postulated that the idea of security in Antsp2p was worthy of development although the application was pants in itself and really slow the security through internoding via irc was a worthy idea,PARG then wrote the plug in which now allows for decentralised torrents keeping millions from being tracked and free.So a big shout out for all those unsung heroes of the bit torrent community and sourceforge developers who make the internet better for all. jd6667/jeff666|
|I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR,..... IM NOT SURE WHERE YOUR PULLING YOUR HALF WHIT INFORMATION FROM..... BUT IT IS INCORRECT!!!! THE "INTERNET" WAS DEVELOPED FOR AND INTERNATIONAL PURPOSE..... IT WAS A SPIN OFF TECHNOLOGY FROM THE WORK BEING DONE IN PARTICLE PHYSICS. MORE SPECIFICALLY THE LARGE HADRON COLLIDER (LHC).... I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS INFORMATION HAS BECOME LOST TO YOU ALL....BUT I FEEL A RE-TRACTION IS IN ORDER......THE INTERNET IN ITS BIRTH WAS JUST A WAY FOR SCIENTIST TO SEND HUGE AMOUNT OF DATA OVER LARGE DISTANCES....AND THE DEVELOPING ENGINEERS WERE FROM MANY DIFFERENT NATIONS. TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK INTO THINGS BEFORE WRITING "SPIN" ARTICLES LIKE THIS.|
|posted by (2012-07-31 04:36:59)|
|Steve Jobs stole Xerox graphic interface (Windows with tabs), the modern Word Processor and even the mouse. Now add Ethernet for printer networks?, and I believe other people besides Steve got inspired also by them regarding the internet, These Californian Engineers from Xerox were diligent, smart and innovative!, they were the real creative geniuses, they deserve huge appreciation. Watch the movie: "Pirates of Silicon Valley". advance movie time to: 1.00.55 Sec.|
The U.S government (or the ones above them), just want to control the internet and the pentagon is again the main target to enclose.
|@ warcome....where are you getting your info? How did Steve Jobs "steal" anything? He worked for Xerox then bought the rights to the GUI that Xerox created for copier display's. Xerox in no way created the GUI based for the purpose of a personal computing device...... Let Steve Jobs rest in peace, he did more in his 20's then you will accomplish in a lifetime. Warcome is pathetic in his "onion ring smelling" first line. Steve Jobs stole nothing, Xerox had the bundle of yarn.....and steve jobs and wozniak knitted it into a beautiful sweater..... I dont know what universe half you people are living in... but the "truth" is available..... and it's not the BS u read on WIKI or other sources......my head hurts for you ignorants......|
|The FIRST computer was designed in England - FACT - Designed by Tommy Flowers.|
Sorry America... you also did not capture the Enigma machine either, we did but blame Hollywood and a shallow director for that.
The first light bulb was also originally designed by a 'Brit' Joseph Swan who got together with Thomas Edison who had the muscle to market the idea. A partnership we should value. Another British/American success story! - We are bloody aren't we!
|posted by (2012-07-31 10:16:11)|
|So the movie lied, patterncode. leave it at that, I have nothing against Steve Jobs, I thought he was great and brilliant, but the point is, people are open to nourish themselves with other people's ideas, to take it and make it better, so he was inspired and didn't steal anything.. and sorry is like to much strong of a word for you, didn't meant to offend him, and well, buying other people's ideas like you say is not stealing, that's right, and their is no double edge intentions on any of my comments.|
|posted by (2012-07-31 11:58:35)|
|Who gives a crap about who invented what.Let's just enjoy what we have and quit buying into the hate mongering crap.If this is what this site is becoming I'd rather not be associated with a bunch of whiny little bitches.|
|posted by (2012-07-31 15:32:16)|
|funny ,i thought Charles Babbage invented the 1st "computer"|
|posted by (2012-07-31 16:31:32)|
|LoL the internet was not started by the pentOgone or the US for that matter. is began in the 70's when a group of folks wanted to network there computers together over long distances. at the time there was no name for it but soon after....maybe like the early 80's is was known as BBS "bulletin board systems" latter on servers were built so that a network of computers could be ran 24/7 so that any body could have access to them when they needed it. this was of course after cat5 cable was invented.|
if you do some research on the web you will find out that in 1969 that the government claims The original ARPAnet eventually grew into the Internet, witch is simply not true at all. "it made way for the idea of" and if so how would the other global countries get involved? as @ the time there was no peace treaties. and we still are @ war with other countries that have the WWW. so ya the US government did NOT invent the WWW. yes they may have built there own network, but the WWW= World Wide Web, not the US web LoL there is also nothing on the WWW that even comes close to its actual origins the US did a good job of covering that up.
|posted by (2012-08-01 23:46:58)|
|Xerox invented quite alot, they sold alot of tech to both Microsoft and Apple, they created Windows first..... amoung other things|
|posted by (2012-08-02 07:25:18)|
|@ internationalvillager....how's that great power grid over there holding up? Is it able to supply enough juice to keep your "Indian made with American dollars" running? Power outages stink don"t they?....|
|posted by (2012-08-02 07:29:14)|
The mechanism is the oldest known complex scientific calculator. It contains many gears and is sometimes called the first known analog computer, although the quality of its manufacture suggests that it may have had a number of undiscovered predecessors during the Hellenistic Period. It appears to be constructed upon theories of astronomy and mathematics developed by Greek astronomers. It is estimated to have been made around 100 BC. In 1974, Yale University Professor Derek de Solla Price concluded from gear settings and inscriptions on the mechanism's faces that the mechanism was made about 87 BC and was lost only a few years later.
Greek astronomers invented the "first" computer....nuff said....next discussion.
|posted by (2012-08-02 09:43:45)|
|not surprising that the us government have tried to claim its self as the inventer of the web the controlling control freaks, hell bent on world domination. worse than the nazis. at least they were open about it.|
|posted by (2012-08-03 04:21:27)|
|To Arizonan, thank you for putting internationalvillager in his place. Some people's opinions are formed entirely out of nothing but smoke blown up their asses and the fact that they seem to have been beaten repeatedly with a stupidity stick. China is "far way better" than USA? In what way? Suppressing the freedom of it's people? How about technology theft? No? Come on, you can't be serious. ANY progress they have made recently is only due to the fact that they are becoming more westernized. America haters suck, and the reasons they give for their attitude towards this country only serve to show their lack of education and common sense. Just keepin' it real...|
|Well, nice to see Sir Tim Burners Lee getting a little mention, though that he 'developed Hyperlinks' is kinda understating his contribution... he invented the World Wide Web!!, pretty good going. So, which nation/individual invented the internet? so many options you've all given me, Irish Russian, American, American, American, Brit. America probably wins in a vote. Interesting to note though, that behind much British invention lies American Industry (money) who can believe in and develop their ideas. It's a good partnership but the true inventor, never gets the glory...Money talks, just the way things are|
|posted by (2012-08-10 18:03:08)|
|Another poorly written article with misinformation. First, no one claimed the Pentagon invented the Internet. The Pentagon is a building. You actually mean Department of Defence (DoD).|
There are many books written about the origins of the Internet and networking. Nothing it trying to be hidden. People often misuse "Internet" just like when people say they watch "TV" when they go to watch a DVD or satellite on their TV. The (Republican) media often pokes fun of Al Gore, claiming that he said he invented the Internet, when all he really said was that he was on a committee that was responsible for funding Arpa. So media misquotes people and twists what they say to have headlines that are just wrong (Again, Pentagon, wtf?).
The amount of bad information in your articles that could be proven in the most basic Google searches is shocking.
Why not just post links to other sites with articles that are properly researched and have journalistic experience? A lot better than making stuff up.
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