Britain and Ecuador Fighting over Julian AssangeAdded: Tuesday, August 21st, 2012
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It seems that the governments of the United Kingdom and Ecuador have started to use fighting talk when discussing the case of WikiLeak’s founder Julian Assange. The matter is that Ecuador is accusing the United Kingdom of posing a “threat” to storm its embassy in London with the purpose of arresting Julian Assange. Meanwhile, the language of the accusation Ecuador was using looked similar to that of a country about to declare war.
Local media confirm that the Foreign Office claims it is able to lift the embassy’s diplomatic status in order to fulfill a “legal obligation” to extradite Assange. Nevertheless, Ecuador’s Foreign Minister was furious at the comment, and it might also backfire incredibly on the British government. The interesting fact is that the idea of the British arresting Assange has already managed to unite Ecuador’s government and opposition.
Until this moment, the opposition has accused the country’s President of mishandling the case, but today it changed its mind and is claiming that the British are mishandling it. The fears are that if the United Kingdom shuts down the embassy, it might make the President appear a hero in the eyes of his voters as he comes into a general election.
Several police officers are outside the Ecuadorian embassy, in Knightsbridge, while supporters of the WikiLeaks founder have gathered behind a police cordon. Meanwhile, in Ecuador, the protesters are camped outside the UK embassy in Quito with signs reading “We are sovereign, not colonies”.
Ecuador Foreign Minister received a letter from the British government with a threat that the country’s government might storm the London embassy if it didn’t hand over Assange. The Minister said such a threat was simply improper of a democratic, civilized and rule abiding country like the UK. In addition, Ecuador wasn’t a British colony and in the event that the measure contained in the British official communication is enacted, this move will be regarded by Ecuador as an unacceptable, unfriendly and hostile act, i.e. an attempt against their sovereignty. In other word, it would force Ecuador to respond.
In response, the United Kingdom have pointed out that the use of the diplomatic premises to harbor individuals like this isn’t compatible with the Vienna Convention. The United Kingdom claimed that it could use the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act of 1987, which allows the country to revoke the diplomatic status of an embassy on British soil. This would potentially allow the law enforcement agents to enter the building to arrest Julian Assange.
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Tuesday, August 21st, 2012
|posted by (2012-08-21 20:04:22)|
|well all i can say is i am sorry to all the people that live in this country because the (uk/USA) government has sold it`s soul and this will show the world why we what away from this type of government and desire home rule for our country|
|posted by (2012-08-21 22:39:45)|
|The thing is Uk and the us have an extridition treaty. Dont you think they would have extridited him by now?. He needs to front up to these charges to clear his name otherwise the masses will think he is guilty.|
|posted by (2012-08-22 06:18:31)|
|If the parasite isn't guilty he should be a man and go to court to clear his name.....The so called threat of being sent to America from Sweden is just a "smoke-screen" created in the parasite's head as Sweden has a statute that no-one can be extradited to a country to stand trial where the death penalty might be a result.|
This person has a very large ego which he enjoys having massaged by his moronic "followers".....They don't seem to realise that he's already stabbed his friends in the back over the bail issue.
Be a man Assange and face up to your responsibilities for once in your worthless life and stop scrounging off others.
|Manning up to it might be one solution, but I know if unfairly charged and set up by the Americans for telling the truth with wikileaks along with others and the Americans having a big grudge for sharing with the world a glimpse of the Genocide they have inflicted to innocent civilians that I would not go quietly into the night but make myself as big a public figure as possible so that when the day did come for me to appear at the Kangaroo court they would have to at least go through the motions and not just put the noose around my neck (albeit the end solution).|
|It might also pay to know that recently one of the Icelandic ministers who was a party to wikileaks has also cancelled her visit to the states as it was made known she would not be allowed to leave if she went,people forget too easily that what wiki leaks did and is doing is exposing the rotten core of the apple and those most rotten at its core will not take kindly to being exposed for the warmongering corporate fascists we all know and despise.|
|I agree with Embolism, and regarding the clause of Sweden's extradition treaty it doesn't apply here. IF (BIG IF) he were extradited to the US, he would not face the death penalty as the US could not try him for treason since he's not a US citizen. A few back to back life sentences are a possibility, but not the death penalty.|
That said, I also have to agree with "dikhed" in that the UK has an extradition treaty with the US and you'd be hard pressed to find a country that's more of the US's b!tch than the UK (I mean the government, not it's citizens). I find it highly unlikely the US is trying to get him extradited here. It would just cause more attention brought to a subject that the US government wants kept quiet. As a US citizen I can tell you, people that read wiki leaks and watch independent news get a skewed perspective of what the American public thinks. They assume that the American public is as educated as they are. Firstly our (I'm a US citizen) news is a joke. Secondly, I can promise you; if I were to stop 200 random people on the street, at best 20 of them have even heard of Jullian Assange, and of them only 2 has any idea of why the US government might be upset with him. The worst part of it all is, that if I were to then create another group of 200 people using only people like the 2 "educated" people from before, I would probably only be able to find about 10 people that took the time to actually go on wiki leaks and see for themselves what all the fuss was about.
So given all that, if you were in control of a country full of ignorant apathetic sheep, would you want to rock the boat and do something that might potentially cause an outcry big enough to wake up the US's medicated masses?
|posted by (2012-08-23 08:17:23)|
|Take America out of the equation because at the end of the day it's just a smoke screen created by the parasite, why does he not go to Sweden and clear his name if he is as innocent as he tells everyone?..If found guilty I doubt he would serve "hard labour" on a chain-gang....Sweden would ship him back to Australia where, everyone seems to forget, he is a citizen....Perhaps the parasite decided on Britain to run and hide in because they were stupid enough in the first place to let him in or perhaps it's because of the free handouts his moronic followers are fooled into giving him....|
The biggest joke of all is that Ecuador keeps bleating on about how the poor parasite's human rights are being stepped on but they are in the process of sending a Belarus blogger back to face certain death because he spoke out against his country's human rights....Where are all you bleeding hearts over that issue?
|posted by (2012-08-23 15:31:20)|
|America cant be taken out of this issues as it all their fault in the 1st place..... start a war against Iraq based on lies, kill innocent people while doing it now they go after the person who told the world their dirty secrets , what ever happened to Americas Freedom of Speech ? Does that only apply when the Us wants to spread their BS . How would the Us gov like some other country to go into one of their embassies to get some one out of it?|
|It must be nice to live in a world where everything is black and white. I'm not sure who exactly you were referring to with the "bleeding heart" comment, but in case it was me let me clarify. If you re-read my post, I was actually agreeing with you that extradition from Sweden was unlikely. Just because I corrected you on an inaccuracy that you stated as fact does not mean we were in disagreement. Regarding the topic of his citizenship, while re-reading everyone's post the only two people who mentioned his citizenship were you and I. Not only do I know that he is a citizen of Australia, but I was not the one implying the United States could possibly charge him with treason (which assuming he were a US citizen) would be the only crime he could even have the potential of receiving the death penalty. That statement holds true for everything the US might or might not want to charge him for in relation to wikileaks and the sex crimes that he is ACCUSED of but you seem so certain he committed. I will say that he seems guilty to me because I like you believe if the US wanted him, they'd have him all ready. That being said, I find it conceivable|
|that Julian Assange could himself believe that the US put pressure on Sweden to create some bogus charge so that they could then get him extradited.|
Lets just pretend for a second, that you had created a website a leaked the wrong doings the government of the worlds on remaining super power. Wrong doings that included the unwarranted war of a sovereign country, intentionally lying to it's citizens and other sovereign nations, as well as the murder and absolute disregard of the rights of citizens of other countries. Now pretend you've heard that you've been accused of a crime you know you didn't commit. Not just any crime though, a crime that invariably disgusts people like no other crime. Wouldn't you start to think that there was a reason that not only someone is falsely charging you with a crime, but they intentionally made it that crime. That way instead of a public taking a second to think of this very possibility there so enraged cause they here sex crime and they want their pound of flesh. I'm not saying this is what happened, I'm just saying it's a possibility. One of the things that once made the USA the greatest country in the world is that we were the first to demand that everyone has a right to a fair hearing and no one is guilty until proven otherwise. If we can't wait to condemn someone in the court of public opinion until we know whether their truly guilty or not, the we don't deserve the right to do things like post whatever we want on forums without worrying about the SS coming to our home in the middle of the night. Yes, he should face trial; but the fact that he is avoiding going to that trial is not the same thing as a confession of guilt.
|If he came back to Australia to begin with there would be no problem.|
|posted by (2012-08-24 15:15:14)|
|he should do that, would be interesting to see what happens , probably end up like David Hicks ,receiving that "right to a fair hearing " the Usa is famous for .||
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