File-Sharers Are All MonitoredAdded: Saturday, September 15th, 2012
Category: About Torrents > Staying Safe And Secure
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The recent study says that whatever is downloaded via peer-to-peer networks, including video and music, is heavily monitored. Several computer scientists from the Birmingham University spent their past 3 years to develop software similar to BitTorrent in attempt to log all the connections it makes.
Their logs said that you don’t even have to be a hardcore downloader to be monitored. Instead, the truth is more disturbing than you would like it to be: the leader of the team explained that everyone who downloaded a single video will also be logged. And if this video was in the top 100 it was monitored within hours. Someone would notice and everything will be recorded.
Moreover, the research in question pin-pointed ten monitoring companies which were logging the material. Some of them were copyright-enforcement outfits, security companies, and research labs, while the rest couldn’t be identified due to using 3rd-party hosting companies to do the job for them.
The researchers confirmed that a lot of companies were just sitting on the information. Since such spying can be easily done and the results are out there, they believe they may also collect them as a potentially valuable data.
A number of these companies, especially the ones which monitored on a massive scale, were accused of selling the collected information to rights owners for marketing purposes. The offered information showed what data was popular and where.
So, how to avoid the risk of being spied on? One way is to use a “blocklist”, but there’s no guarantee that it would work, because a lot of the monitors discovered by the researchers were not on the blocklists. As for Europe and the United States, the rights holders often use the IP addresses they have received from monitoring companies in order to obtain a court order and consequently force the ISPs to give away personal details of their users, including home address and so on.
Though, such evidence is not likely to get the copyright owners anywhere. The matter is that all the monitors the researchers observed do connect to file-sharers and confirm they were running the BitTorrent client, but they don’t collect any of the files shared. So, Internet users are still able to protect themselves by masking their real IP address through proxies and VPNs.
Saturday, September 15th, 2012
|bring it on motherf*ckers i dont care if they try monitor me ill just hide my ip and if they honestly think im gonna start paying for crap CDs and DVDs because there monitoring me there heavily mistaken|
|posted by (2012-09-15 13:04:37)|
|this is where i said told you.+ why ppl should use seedbox vpn ect|
|If the ips they are using upload at all, wouldn't that be entrapment?|
|posted by (2012-09-15 15:38:55)|
|where do i find seed boxs that are good and not expensive ? ? pm me with info . .|
|private torrents are the way to go now|
|It's amazing to me how much time/money/effort gets put into duplicitous marketing schemes. Consumer capitalism = not healthy, for it turns you into nothing more than a 'buyer.'|
|posted by (2012-09-15 18:22:55)|
|scarey reading but if true how come some people have torrented for years without seedboxes or vpns and not been caught?|
|posted by (2012-09-15 18:31:03)|
|also ultimately isn't your IP known because the data has to come to your IP whatever you try?? please enlighten me.|
|posted by (2012-09-15 21:07:38)|
|lol I am not at all worried about this. Do u know why ? I have one of the craziest ISP provider as my broadband service provider. I get a new ip issued for every fresh connection. LOL !!!|
|The first and main question which arises here is that.. the method/technology they are using to monitor or log that bittorent traffic is considered legitimate in the eyes of law.. and i think no.. it will take a lot of proving and time to acknowledge that system of monitoring valid and error free in eyes of law.|
secondly, i will not use a vpn or anything.. if they can try to sue me.. i'll fuk their life.. i'll say i dont know who might have used my wifi.. or if my isp sends me a mail.. i'll say i haven't downloaded any illegal content myself.. if you thing this is serious then go fkin disconnect yr services from my home. if you dont do so.. i hereby hold no responsibility of what anyone may download using my wifi connection..
|hell yeah and when your don saying that you gotta do the kenny powers cock thrust towards there face with a quick jackejaculation. check out that kenny p shit east bound n down, also pm me with a good vpn and seedbox as well, i dont trust btguard or privateinternet access, privacy io doesnt let u switch countries|
|posted by (2012-09-16 00:35:39)|
|Well im not worried as ive been downloading via torrents since.....forever lol and dont mask my IP.|
They havent done much with this info thus far so i can see it being a bigger job for them than they are letting us know, otherwise they would get us all.
Im not a hardcore sharer but i would say moderate.....although it does make me question if i should be using a proxy on some sites hmmmmm.....
|posted by (2012-09-16 05:53:38)|
|Their prisons are not big enough to hold us all.|
Oh, hang on ... we're already in prison. Sigh.
|Yea right ALL bit torrents are monitored; the billions of files and ALL of them monitored?|
Yea I am just peeing all over myself in fear.
Try and remember this? ALL of the suits that I am aware of and judgements I am aware of were in fact awarded with no actual proof.
Meaning all that was used was an IP address.
I get a whoo scary letter or summons the first thing I would do is see their warrant for wiretapping and provide the actual file -s that were downloaded from my system. They can not..
Another thing is the law suits for DOWNLOADING - all of the whining and sniveling done by the MPAA and RIAA regarding all the lost billions in unfounded toilet paper claims is just that DOWNLOADS. If I am sued for DOWNLOADING then any smart person would and SHOULD POINT THAT OUT TO A JuRy.
Okay I downloaded the file so here is the receipt from walwart where I bought the file for 4.00... Or point out that I am only liable for the RETAIL VALUE OF THE FILE IF I HAD BOUGHT IT..
I speculate a case like that would deflate as fast as their inflatable girlfriends they have in the closet..
|posted by (2012-09-16 11:43:00)|
|menahunie. so you are saying all the judgements given in favour of the MPAA etc were given with no proof?|
Also if you re read the article they only deal with IP's and not the actual files. Also IMO there is no 'wiretapping' going on. IP's are disclosed nomally, even in utorrent you can see the IP's you are connected to. Also doesn't matter what the retail value is. A point of Law is there are possible punishments and also the loser pays the fees of the other party. You would not be going to Court with the chance to pay $4 and walk away. The Legal fees would be multiples plus if found guilty, your punishment, for copyright infringement. In the US this is a Federal Crime and for 1st time offenders the penalties are up to 5 years in prison $250,000 fine.
|posted by (2012-09-16 12:23:31)|
|well @ nr11 to bad for you reason is you can use that anymore i dont know who use my wifi ect sicne its your job to know make it so ppl can use it my addign PW ect. also its already been use/tryed in court the oen by wifi where open so cant use that anymore.they sue for IP use not who use it but the ip .so use VPN + seeedbox make you that more ahrd to find|
|posted by (2012-09-16 14:26:05)|
|So now you have to pay for downloading something you didnt want to spend money on to begin with, but not to the copyright holder but to some vpn/seedbox owner?|
I wonder how many of the shit movies out there were made just so they can send you a fine when you download it.
|skreamer - It is clear you don't even have the ability to even read English. Re read the post and you will get your answers.|
As well coming from some one who has not even posted anything - torrents - and making a troll comment.
Bit torrents may show an IP; is it YOUR IP? That hasn't been proven to be a reliable case in the past.
The only possible proof is with who/ YOU. now if you don't have any files as claimed; where is the case and courts have now started to throw out such claims by the MPAA and RIAA.
If say I am still dragged into court and still sued even when I point out what I mentioned in my post to the plaintiffs AND they still went ahead with the suit; the plaintiffs MPAA and or RIAA would not get crap for legal fee's since they failed to mitigate damages...
This postings are in no way any type of legal advice and only my opinions - see a parasite lawyer for that..
WE all are very aware azzholes from the copyright people do in fact visit; use and post here on ET - are you one of them?
|posted by (2012-09-16 22:26:08)|
|So I'm a troll and a Legitimate Anti-Infringement Agent? Good grief are you a teenager or just really paranoid?|
meanahunie this is an open forum not a torrent UL forum so its a shame you don't like free speech or someone asking you a simple question about something you posted, in which case they "must be a troll". :roll eyes:
I would ask some more but its obvious you are talking crap. Good luck with the Court case. Yeah every person I've seen in Court has decided to pay for whatever they were convicted of stealing and walking away just like you said.
Yeah and I'm obviously not just a troll but a copyright asshole (English remember?) that's why I thank UL'ers from time to time and have never given a negative back. Oh I'm sorry, were you too thick you didn't think to click on my Profile Comments before firing up the old brain cell?
|posted by (2012-09-16 22:29:40)|
|Haaar or do I thank UL'er just so I don't blow my cover? Yes that must be it!|
|posted by (2012-09-16 22:42:02)|
|pc's with law rights on board?|
|lmfao!the world is run by the illuminati the government and until such time as downloadin music and movies becomes a threat to them it well remain the way it is today!|
|Try this Friends,,, it is giving me More Time and somehow good & fast Download speed possible, and 8 GB of free online storage for Torrent downloading's over their servers.... it's an alternative of paying to seedboxe's !!!!|
|and your IP's will never be monitored !!! for downloading any torrent content via Torrent clients,,|
|skreamer - ur an asshole.|
Again you prove you can't even read or understand normal English as it is written.
State where I claim you are what you deny?
|posted by (2012-09-17 18:53:13)|
|One of the sweetest things there is that someone labels someone in a disrespectful manner. They obviously don't like the label they use. You said I was a troll. Do you know what a troll is? I will quote from Wiki just for you since you are seem 'special'.|
QUOTE In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog,UNQUOTE
So who is really the troll? Its in black and white right here on this page. You replied with personal inflammatory comment to my respectful, on-topic post. YOU ARE THE TROLL NO DOUBT. Even in your very poor, ill written posts, which are very clouded as far as clarity and facts, the abusive nature is clear. I simply asked a question about your knowledge of legal actions. I do not follow these things but your statement about 'no-proof Judgements' did not sound right. Innocent till proven guilty is, I believe, the reality of Legal proceedings. In any event you did not answer but instead said I cannot read English. You prefer to list a whole lot of things in contradiction to the Article and when I simply pointed out those contradictions you refused to back yourself up.
Looks like you are what you hate, a Troll. A clueless one too.
Easy to post things you pull out of the air, you cannot back up, that do not seem to be correct, and answer in the classic Trollish way of slinging abuse instead. Which is exactly what you did on both occasions you have written to me, Mr Troll.
I hear you say you hate pigs so much
Then why the hell do you act like one?
|@skreamer, in the USA copyright infringement can be filed in both civil and criminal court.. in the first instance getting a conviction requires only a preponderance of the evidence.. meaning if it can be made to look like you did it you could be convicted with no 'empirical' evidence. A criminal conviction requires 'beyond a reasonable doubt', still depending on how much your lawyer sucks, its possible to be convicted with no empirical evidence. It should be noted that those of modest material means are more likely to be tried criminally for copyright infringement. To date I believe the total number of downloaders even charged has been extremely low but they did try to make examples of them. My guess is occasionally they will take a shot into the herd, but most politically driven judicial actions (like copyright infringement) doesn't resonate well unless the story plays big. Prosecuters have their eye set on higher political office and being tagged as the Tipper Gore of DA's wouldn't lend well to those aspirations I'm inclinded to believe. Civil cases are far more likely but if you are a company filing a lawsuit and the best you can hope for is a judgement against some broke dick philosophy major who makes a living working in a coffee shop and selling weed.. you get the picture I'm sure. Hope this has satified your curiosity.|
|posted by (2012-09-18 17:14:41)|
|I doubt this is even real, just another scare tactic. Ive read the original article and 2 things bothered me, 1 IF they actually are monitoring ALL file sharing then they would be bottle necking the connections. "that's a lot of band width consumption" 2 they used Napster as an example. Napster is no longer considered Illegal file sharing.|
come on folks, you really need to stop believing this crap.
|@redbull99 u have hit the nail on the head their buddy i totally agree 100%. unless this comes to harm or affects the illuminati in anyway shape or form it will stay as it is now. i bet you in another 10yrs time torrents n file sharing is still going strong.|
|posted by (2012-09-19 17:58:29)|
|@JohnnyBlade. Thanks for the information. That sounds a really bad situation you have over there. I had no idea these things could go through a Civil Court requiring, as you say, only a 'preponderance' of evidence.|
Given the background noise and involvement of the Anti-infringement Groups, DoJ and FBI, I had always thought these matters would be dealt with by the Criminal Courts where people really would either be made an example of, or the Penalties possible via that route would be enough to dissuade people from P2P.
|@burnleysniper exactly most of the articles on here are bs small talk lol these websites will be goin strong for years to come and if anybody on here hasent noticed in the top left hand corner on the main page " we are in the process of migrating or website to extratorrent.ws" lol being in the "process" for about 3 years now i think tht is basically in case there website gets attacked or taking down it ell be back up in no time and located in a different country most likely.||
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