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US ISP Will Start Sending Infringement Warnings

US ISP Will Start Sending Infringement Warnings

Added: Thursday, October 25th, 2012
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Right To Share
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extratorrent.com
According to media reports, one of the largest US broadband providers, AT&T, is ready to start sending anti-piracy warnings next month. The company’s management has already decided how and when they will act.

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Apparently, AT&T had come up with a plan to apply the “six-strikes” graduated response system. In means that the users who often visit “notorious sites” won’t be able to access them any longer, until they pass an online copyright education. The “six-strikes” regime was the idea of the entertainment industry and involved 5 largest American ISPs – together they made up the Center for Copyright Information.

Although AT&T made no official statements about a launch date, some of the documents leaked from the ISP proved what the company was planning to start soon. The papers informed the ISP’s employees about the upcoming changes, saying that in an attempt to help the rights holders fight online piracy, they should send warnings to the customers who are found to be downloading illegal material.

The copyright holders issue reports containing IP-addresses associated with the infringing activities. The Internet service provider promised not to share any personally identifiable data about its subscribers with rights holders until authorized by the subscriber or required to do so by the court. The leaked papers specify a launch date as of 4 weeks from now. According to other information, the remaining ISPs (which are Verizon, Cablevision, Comcast, and TWC) will also join action the same day.

The document also reveals details on how the ISP will punish its users after the 6th strike. In this event, repeated copyright infringers that access “rogue websites” will be redirected to an educational page and have to complete an online course on copyright before they get access to the web again. However, after the 5th notification, the copyright holder has the right to pursue legal action against the subscriber and may seek a court order that requires an ISP to hand over personal details.

Although these measures don’t mean suspending an account, the broadband providers still have to collect the IP addresses of users they send notifications to. Afterwards, the MPAA and the RIAA could use them for further investigation. Well, we’ll see if their efforts ever prove to be worth all the trouble.

Thanks to TorrentFreak for the source of the article



By:
SaM
October 25th,2012

Posted by: 
SaM

Date:  Thursday, October 25th, 2012



Comments (36) (please add your comment »)

1
posted by (2012-10-25 15:39:44)
No avatarInteresting cause theres a Grand Jury Lawsuit deciding wether or not an IP address can be used to prove being guilty. Initial reaction is the Jury is going to vote that IP addresses alone CANNOT be used in these type of cases. So if this is proven, then the 6 strikes cannot be held as a legal binding

2
posted by (2012-10-25 16:13:18)
No avatarEven if they did make the sites go down you can always get around it and pirate offline there no way to fight it its impossible plain and simple

3
posted by (2012-10-25 16:41:39)
Rockman avatarW o W VPN makers should love this must get one fast me thinks . . .

4
posted by (2012-10-25 17:55:59)
crazymichael avatarsomebody will just hack into there system and turn at&t off

5
posted by (2012-10-25 19:09:34)
No avatarYou would think that all of these companies would get the message that their products (software, music, movies, etc) are too dang expensive and people arent going to waste their money on inferior expensive products. And how will they stop us from running VPN tunnels to other people and getting the items they want. Piracy has been and will continue to be in the American culture.

6
posted by (2012-10-25 19:31:01)
No avatarit feels that no one else has caught on to the article, apperently infringing data being downloaded and stored is not the issue, its visiting sites that have this data. so coming here would give me a strike even if i didnt download anything. any time you visit a site that has content that may or may not be legal u get a strike thats what this article is sayin, btw anyone know any good vpns for ppl in the usa, non US based vpns and dont link to that torrent freak page of vpns its outdated and thoes vpns are the ones im questioning

7
posted by Blocked (2012-10-25 21:49:33)
skreamer avatarET articles are often unclear, as is this with 'downloading illegal material' and 'visiting notorious sites' both seemingly getting you a strike. Although we all know the score, legally its dangerous to assume because you visited a site you must have made one or more illegal DLs.

I like what TPB did with a https proxy. Do ISP's have the power to snoop on your https connections? If not https then I guess 'notorious sites' could change their urls to keep a few steps ahead of da law? Its not as if a site is fixed in time and space.

Anyway there is surely good news in there: you do have a number of warnings before legal action can be taken. Got to be better than waiting for that knock on your door and a surprise visit to the Court.

8
posted by (2012-10-25 21:50:32)
jumbo71 avatari was taught to share and share is a must .....
if this becomes law libraries should be closed down as well.....photocopying machines taken out of work places , blank data material be took off shelfs ect ......
its only fair if it suits the powerfull rich people...

9
posted by Blocked (2012-10-25 22:02:56)
skreamer avatarOk I wrote that and then read TPB has gone to the cloud! Gotta love TPB but does look like sites can be ghosts.

Jumbo good point about photocopiers altho you will find libraries do pay heaps of money for their books because they are loaned out, altough they are not (afaik), available for photocopying. Libraries without photocopiers. A bit awkward.

10
posted by (2012-10-25 22:08:39)
End_Game avatarI don't see how they can go after you for visiting sites. I come here daily to check the articles THAT NOBODY ELSE WRITES! Just because I'm here doesn't mean I'm downloading anything, and if I do, that doesn't mean it's pirated material. Proxies, VPN's, and onion routers...support them!

11
posted by (2012-10-26 00:52:46)
No avatarThis is BS. When are these ISP's going to realize there is always somewhere else to go. No one company is the only show in town. As if that wasn't enough, there's an over abundance of VPN, or other, avenues to take. I haven't been forced to do this yet but it seems now it's only a matter of time. Can anyone comment about average download/upload speeds for large files over a typical VPN?

12
posted by Blocked (2012-10-26 02:24:11)
klinger avatarJust use an on=line proxy server and your ISP will not know what sites you are visiting.

13
posted by (2012-10-26 02:32:36)
humb203 avatarWhat I find totally laughable is this business of being redirected to an education page and having to take some some sort of course on good behaviore. Do these people think they're dealing with idiots or what? Their downfall is the fact that they are clueless as to who or what they're dealing with. More so, I think all they're trying to do is get the profiteering gluttons off their backs.

14
posted by (2012-10-26 03:16:26)
No avatarSo this is not What freedom stands for so what I have understood is freedom is what the us banks on but this is something thats not free. Economy down, People stealing, war in iraq, religion falling, And social security about gone, W T F. We drive down the road every day and see drug dealers, turn on the news see killings,
pay taxes have to have ids, and passports, car tags, deads to houses, And it takes a bunch of people to steal legaly. We the pirates and the scum of the earth.
So they say, but all out whos the real pirates here? you can break into my pc,(personal computer) get my info. ?????????W T F?????????? You can send a letter to my
home or company? you can offer settlements on stuff. I guess heres what we have here people who try to abib by the law but breaking it. We as pirates need to get
to together and fight this now before they harbor our ships lets stand now together.

15
posted by (2012-10-26 04:17:28)
ao1jmm avatar"In means that the users who often visit “notorious sites” won’t be able to access them any longer"

My favorite part. So now we are censoring and blocking what our customers do on the internet? Who makes the call for labeling these so called "notorious sites" bad?

So much for freedom

16
posted by Blocked (2012-10-26 10:37:15)
No avatarthanke

17
posted by ET lover (2012-10-26 11:32:48)
HiDefHQ avatarTypical facsist americans trying to rule over EVERYTHING! It's a plain, old-fashioned dictatorship.

18
posted by (2012-10-26 11:33:15)
Rockman avatarWhere is this list of " Notorious sites " are- A T T -users suppose to trust them for what is a notorious site ? Wonder what verizon and comcast etc are dreaming up for bad sites won t they need them or can they fight those rules find their backbone ? ?

19
posted by Blocked (2012-10-26 21:18:02)
skreamer avatar@Rockman. If you see it post it here. I need some new favorites.

20
posted by (2012-10-27 00:06:05)
No avatarDamn, ET didn't let me post the external link. Check out Cinemablend.com for the article on this

21
posted by (2012-10-27 03:36:50)
ao1jmm avatar"Typical facsist americans trying to rule over EVERYTHING! It's a plain, old-fashioned dictatorship."

I love you nutcases

22
posted by (2012-10-27 14:40:37)
No avatarwait and see.whats' the effects they will do.

23
posted by (2012-10-27 19:03:51)
No avatar@HiDefHQ
Pfft. Yeah, only the Americans are interested in controlling things. The rest of the worlds governments and companies are peaceful and devoted to the total anonymity and protection of it's citizens to do and say what they want.

24
posted by ET junkieTurtle (2012-10-28 02:50:15)
gladiator69 avatar6 strikes an your out!! That aint too harsh really, as soon as that comes into effect (if it does so) then everytime i visit right up untill the 5th time ill be D/L hundreds of torrents so ill be okay for stuff to watch for next couple years untill it all blows over gotta think ahead an plan for the future! Oh No just remembered...no need to worry the world is comming to an End 21/12/2012..ill gladly use up all my strikes as where all us piracy guys are going there wont be any courts of Justice...Just Pure....... Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

25
posted by (2012-10-28 12:26:00)
billsmashole avatarHahaha, I have found a way to beat the ISPs. Never leave the site. Just stay continuously logged in to your favorite torrent site. Suck it AT&T, you are a failing dinosaur and have been since the days of long distance supremacy. Why don't you go the way of AOL and die. Also I'm thinking some ISPs aren't going to do this and people will switch to them, causing the idiot ISPs that implement the six strikes to lose a lot of business. The solution to pirating is letting people download movies for a dollar. Give me super fast speeds and a cheap price and the best 1080p version of your movie without all the middleman crap like distribution and packaging and you will make a ton of money.

26
posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2012-10-28 16:42:02)
Embolism avatarif everyone cancelled their internet contract it would bring these corporate fascists to their knees,the only truly enlightened way to go would be for ISP`s to use a small percentage of what is paid for their services to the money grabbing film and music makers thereby decriminalising downloading of all content and making a free internet a possibility.

27
posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2012-10-28 16:48:13)
Embolism avatarBy decriminalisation billions of dollars will be saved in tracking ,capturing and prosecuting people,CYBER will be redundant and the NSA and CIA will have to explore other excuses to monitor and control cyberspace,instead of prosecuting 17 year olds and persecuting everyone else in true Nazi style.

28
posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2012-10-28 16:54:33)
Embolism avatarThe fact that the grand Jury says convictions reliant on IP addresses alone will not stand up does not mean that given IP `s they cannot raid you and check your HDD`s find relevant information and then prosecute you,its all in the evidence.

29
posted by (2012-10-28 18:04:43)
No avatarTime to go and raid some torrent sites and fill up my hard drives. Might see about nabbing a new hdd just for this. Filling up a terrabyte shouldn't take too long, right?

30
posted by (2012-10-29 01:53:21)
melissa123 avatari got a noticed saying to stop downloading this sucks

31
posted by men (2012-10-29 02:30:51)
topaz18046 avatarAs I see it..copyright infringement is a civil matter. Let's look at the logistics of suing, for example 100,000 people. These days even sending a single legal letter costs around $50. That's $500,000 for the first letter. If, after 5 or 6 letters they get no reply they then have to apply to a court to make a claim. If the court order is not served (in person) within 12 months. They have to go back to court and have is re-issued. Even if they serve you and you go to court. You can make an undertaking to pay then 'NOT PAY'. They then have to go through the whole process again. What company has that sort of legal budget? Even U.S Steel would feel the pinch. Good luck.

32
posted by (2012-10-29 05:26:28)
No avatarwow i agree with number 8 couldnt have said it better and anyways isnt that invasion of privacy???

33
posted by (2012-10-29 07:16:49)
No avatarI think they turn off your internet not send you to court 31 lol.. = no court and legal letters.

34
posted by (2012-10-29 16:20:25)
USSFox_CG_33 avatarthis is bullshit ! a proxy server will hide you from the site so whats the point?..I hope hackers unite and shutdown [email protected] and Comcast show em who's boss really.
when everyone's doing it you cant stop it...kinda like speeding,flow of traffic ect...cops cant ticket everyone...so everyone keep seeding don't get worried.

35
posted by (2012-10-29 16:27:29)
No avatarThe movies that are being made these days are so bad there's no way we'd pay for them. Most hardly pass as entertainment. Heck even for free we don't finish watching them most of the time.

If Hollywood wants to make more money why not make movies people want to own.

36
posted by (2012-10-29 22:06:30)
sunnyls2003 avatarwell I am still seeding, no proxy or vpn will work in this case but seed, seed coz they cant stop so called piracy.



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