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BitTorrent Community Beware of CCI Hunt

BitTorrent Community Beware of CCI Hunt

Added: Wednesday, October 31st, 2012
Category: About Torrents > Staying Safe And Secure
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extratorrent.com
By the end of 2012, the Centre for Copyright Information is planning to begin tracking down people downloading copyrighted content through BitTorrent networks. Beware of CCI, everyone!


Everyone understands that a lot of Internet users, both Americans and foreigners, prefer to download their favourite films, songs and games through BitTorrent networks. Few people are ready to give up their habits, but the chances are that the CCI will come for all of them.

The reason for so many “unauthorized” downloads to take place is that not all content is available to purchase – for example, “The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd” is almost impossible to find, because the show used some copyrighted music. Still, it doesn’t seem to concern the industries at all. The matter is that when the entertainment industry failed to have their way with SOPA and ACTA, they came up with another plan called CCI.

The Centre for Copyright Information has partnered with the largest Internet service providers in the country, including AT&T, Comcast, TWC and Verizon. Its purpose is to catch pirates using a system called the Copyright Alert System. The company responsible for implementing this system is MarkMonitor. Basically, its work job is to track all network traffic through ISPs, because copyright violation is claimed to result in over 373,000 jobs, $16 billion in lost wages, and $2.6 billion in lost taxes. The critics offer to compare these losses with the money spent on a petrol war or take into account that the independent expert that has been recently appointed to review all the gathered information appeared to be the RIAA’s former lobbyist.

Another problem announced by the industry observers is the so-called copyright protectors. Those are supposed to do whatever they can to defend content owners, but in fact, they only care about money. Indeed, it is very unlikely that if an independent artist comes to ask for help he will ever get it. Another interesting fact is that the industry took down 1,450,000 WordPress portals for some period of time only because of the one publisher who accused one portal of coming into conflict with the DMCA. It if continues this way, then the CCI will be doing nothing except claiming for money from the alleged pirates.

October 31st,2012

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Date:  Wednesday, October 31st, 2012

Comments (66) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2012-10-31 12:44:55)
CRA_sK avatarWoW well that Sucks)_)all

about the money not about the people

Like always these guys care way to much about

Money its just Paper it burns

just like every thing else

posted by (2012-10-31 12:48:10)
crazymichael avatarill change my ip every minute and even then if they dont find the file in my computer they have nothing on me.If they cared about losing money that much why would they still work there why should we suffer when theres no jobs while they role around in money for doing absolutly nothing most of the artists today dont even write there own songs and film actors just cant be arsed so what am i stealing exactly

posted by (2012-10-31 13:11:44)
Infectious avatarWhat I don't get about the whole copyright thing is that these copyright groups think if they try to stop people from downloading these films and music or even shut down whole sites that people that download will just start going out and buying music or paying the 7-10 dollars for a movie ticket?In my situation the main reason I download is simply because I cannot afford to go out and see every movie or purchase every music cd.I have 5 children plus me and my wife,so figure the math on what it would cost for 7 people to go to the cinema......ridiculous.So their logic is take away the downloads and they will start paying for the movies and music,not hardly.What I usually do is download a movie then if it's worth the money I wait for it to come out on dvd and bluray and depending on how good the film was I decide if it's worth the extra $$ to own the bluray or dvd.So the way I look at these downloads is more or less as a "preview"at wich point I can decide if it is worth my hard earned cash to buy it,so their not going to come out ahead or make crazy amounts of money on top of the millions they make already by coming after us because with 7 people in my family I can't think of a single film that would be worth almost a $100.00 for me to sit in a crowded cinema to watch.They can spend all the money they want sueing people and pursuing this glorified "witch-hunt"but I think in the long run it's just a scare tactic and a losing battle because I think alot of people download for the simple fact that we can't afford to pay what they want just for "entertainment."

posted by ET babyET lover (2012-10-31 13:29:41)
eNdEmiOn avatarLets just put all "pirates" in jail, see if that works. You probably would have to convert half the country or more into jail. Wouldn't take long for a new country to rise out of such a thing.

If we just don't pay the fines these sort of ridiculous rules can't be imposed (same for traffic cam fines). There shouldn't be any restrictions on information. Imagine you could hook up your own mind to the world wide web. Would it then be acceptable if someone were to tell you that you aren't allowed share your memories of visiting a movie theater with anyone!?

posted by (2012-10-31 14:29:30)
Rockman avatarDang wheres my VPN still haven t found a free good one to use any ideas out their ?

posted by (2012-10-31 15:24:36)
Zahrod avatarHEH! I've been in jail; It doesn't work.
I can't afford all this entertainment. There is just to much of it.

posted by men (2012-10-31 16:53:57)
Slickinator avatari still go too the theaters and i download , just because people download something does not mean that we all dont enjoy an original item also i am like a robin hood in a way i download for the people i know can't go to the show as i still go but thats how i see it were people we do what we want and can when the needs are high...

posted by Blocked (2012-10-31 17:23:20)
skreamer avatarForewarned is forearmed as they say.

Its all about the money...on both sides.

posted by (2012-10-31 18:00:15)
Overkiller avatarWhy don't they just shove a leash up are butts. Its all about control of the masses. Who wants to sit and watch a movie on T.V. , when the networks ruin the movie with 15 minutes of commercials and cut parts of movies out anyway. Its not like these networks even show quality movies , shows anyway. Guess they wont be happy till they chip us all!

posted by (2012-10-31 19:20:26)
No avatar"copyright violation is claimed to result in over 373,000 jobs, $16 billion in lost wages, and $2.6 billion in lost taxes"
this lye is y the government rejected ACTA and SOPOA LOL this lye will also end the world.

another problem is this post has been changed from its original, Ive been on other sites looking and the information is some what incorrect.
you have been told.

"Beware of CCI, everyone!" nope I am not going let this ACT of TERRORISM scare me!

@eNdEmiOn: there isn't that many people sharing as you might think.

@Overkiller: "Why don't they just shove a leash up are butts" they are doing that in some locations.

posted by (2012-10-31 19:56:23)
htimanpro avatari totally agree with 'Infectious'. these music artists are so much popular because of mp3s and youtube videos.. if there were no mp3s.. who would listen to all those artist just to checkout if they are good and buy their cds..! if there were no mp3s won't ppl download converted mp3s from youtube videos? and those artists cant even dare to remove those videos from youtube coz they actually make ppl listen to them and make those artists popular.. there are many cases when i downloaded some mp3s and came to know about a artist and then bought the actual cd from retail or online. if there wasnt any mp3 on web, i would have never bought that mp3 and that also would have resulted in low popularity of the artist as what is the case with me is the case with crores of people in the world who actually firt listen mp3s and then buy original. i know same ammount of people dont actually buy original but that also results in increasing popularity of the artist.so if 100% ppl download mp3s 50% buy.. but if there were no mp3s, i bet not more than 30% would buy. i also want to say that artists earn much from music concerts which is directly proportional to their popularity because of mp3s and free streaming music and their videos on youtube etc.

posted by (2012-10-31 20:10:27)
htimanpro avatarNow about movie industry: are they really that stupid that they think ppl will actually go and watch their stupid movies when we know about 70% of movies are shit.
i tell you my case.. i go and watch movies in theaters and i download movies also.. i download mostly those movies which i really never go and watch in theater. so will that do them any harm? no.... but it will actually help them to gain more popularity and show them that they exist. so we will actually know that these directors/directors exist and have worked in some movies and this will later help them to get ppl atleast interested in them when they come out with another movie later.
i also want to say that if you actually want ppl to come to theaters why not reduce the ticket prices and stop looting ppl. ... why not provide beeter services and quality in theaters. how about giving me a DVD of the movie i am coming to see in theater and paying them to watch it so that when i want to watch it next time in my house i can.. why expect us to buy dvd/bluray again for the same movie that i have paid for in theater..? because i also download some movies which i have already gone in theater to watch.. i dont see any piratism in that.. its my right and i shall have it..!

posted by (2012-10-31 20:24:17)
htimanpro avatarNow.. talking about the internet and bittorrent technology they are crying for.. was there no pirating before torrents or before file sharing websites or before emule or before limewire or before that? the answer is there always was.. we all remember how many copies of movies existed on those VHS video cassettes. and same for the audio cassettes. we used to very conveniently put 1 cassette into 1 sise and the new unrecorded cassette on recoreder side of a tape recorder stereos we used to have and copy the whole cassette in some amount of time. and also those video and audio cassettes were very easily available in shops too. so why are you crying now morons?
finally i hereby appeal to all pirates and bittoreant community to boycott the film and music industry if they somehow succeed in prohibiting us from sharing on the internet. if we all do so.. then we all know who's going to cry and regret afterwards..

posted by (2012-10-31 22:54:03)
JKoop avatarSeedbox,FTP with SSL. No worries.

posted by (2012-10-31 23:33:36)
No avatarIf they intend to stop pirating does that mean they are going to release their films at the same time in the UK as they do in the USA ? So I don't have to wait weeks or even months to see a film ?
As regards TV shows some take years before we get them or not at all.
In regards to music, How many times have I bought a CD on the strength of a song only to find the album is crap ?
Why is a CD so expensive when it comes out only to end up in the bargain bin not long after ? Did the cost of recording, and making it suddenly change ?
Also does not the internet via downloads generate a lot of "word of mouth" about acts and therefore give those acts a more stronger position when a record company comes knockin ?

posted by Turtle (2012-10-31 23:46:13)
zacsawyer avatar"Over 373,000 jobs" lost. I wonder how many the CCI creates? How many people would lose their jobs getting arrested and/or jailed for downloading? How many cops are needed to arrest everyone, as if they give a rat's behind about this. They are fighting a losing battle, and someday they might realize that. They won't be happy until they shut down the internet completely, because they are obviously terrified of it.

posted by (2012-11-01 02:33:31)
No avatarI doubt TV shows are an issue as its pretty easy to find ways to work around that and stream from the websites which host them legitimately.

I am tired of these music and movie industry twats thinking that they can promote on the internet and use it without giving back to it. They are taking the public as cash cows by releasing crappy movies, crappy music, and crappy tv shows and expecting us to pay for it.

posted by (2012-11-01 03:49:54)
No avatarI can pay $10 for a month of netflix and watch 100 movies.....so that's 10 cents a movie. So lets be fair on what the movie companies actually lost! So how about they go and spend thousands of dollars on tracking my IP and what movies I've downloaded over the last 5 years and charge me accordingly....... HERE'S YOUR $30, NOW LEAVE ME THE F ALONE!!

So now lets settle things with the record companies who have been ripping off artists for over 50 years. Artists do lose a little cause of downloads, but they waaaay more than make up for it in new fans going to their concerts. How much does it actually cost to make and ship a CD? Maybe 2-4 dollars? Artist might get 1-2 dollars.....where does all the rest go? So, HOW ABOUT THIS, I want a refund on roughly 400-500 tapes and CD's I actually paid cash for in the 80's and 90's where there was 1-3 good songs and the other 10 songs sucked! Or we can just call it even?

posted by (2012-11-01 03:56:18)
No avatarOh and the TV industry......How about you pay me back for my life that was lost spending watching and getting involved with TV shows that were canceled?! One of my FAV SHOWS OF ALL TIME Stargate Universe! then there was The 4400, kyle XY, Stargate Atlantis which did end but was cut short. Those are just a few of the many that I liked a lot. I think there's 5-6 others AT LEAST that I was burned on. Where's my time and emotion back that was invested?!

posted by (2012-11-01 04:06:22)
tablinski avatarpeople this thing that is going on is bigger than us, it has been going on for ages. now it has 2 popular names and they are: GREED and CONTROL so we just need to employ new techniques to outsmart them. they never see us as people we are always statistics on data sheets to them. torrenting was a darn good idea if any one deserves my money its the creator of the torrent system. these people are wicked and dont even love their own families much less us, they wouldnt mind if we are all hunted down like animals and thrown in jail or worse, and all that and more just because of money. so in truth if we dont have money they dont care about us and we shouldnt care about them either, we should just be thinking of ways to keep torrents alive so people can always get the latest watever free of charge. and this is wat they hate so thats the more reason for us to keep doing it and say to hell with them.

posted by (2012-11-01 04:10:00)
No avatarHey gals, and guys...
First time here to rant and rave. I guess I'm old school. Hell I use to be in a pirate group called EAGLE SOFT in the 80's-90's. Where phone freaker's were the fad. Sorry just had to put that info in..They stated that they would stomp out piracy back in the 80's and the 90's.. Well here we are.. Some are beloved are gone. Well out on parole now..Simple solution to the movie and music industries. Either put them out on same day world wide. Or don't let the vise president of the movie companies bring home their stuff....
No really.. Just put out world wide the same day. Then you would have issues. Yet they cant get that out of their heads..

Enough said true believers.....Eagle Soft forever..

posted by (2012-11-01 04:21:41)
No avatarOh and lastly.....and this goes towards Music, Movies and TV......If I bought bicycle, a car, a boat, a painting, or anything else....I can do whatever the heck I want to do with them aftwards. I can let a friend borrow them, I can sell them to anyone I choose and if I want i can give it all away! So tell me why Music, Movies and TV should be any different? If I go to my friends house and hear a CD playing in the background do I need to call the record company and pay them because I heard their music? What if I watch a movie at his house, same kinda thing?

The biggest joke of it all is the Music.....remember back in the 80's they complained about people copying tapes? Did the music industry make money or go broke from that? What about in the 90's when CD's can out, did they go broke then too?! Seems to me they kept making BILLIONS of dollars!

Ummmm times change and when a company doesnt change with them they go out of business, right? How many companies went out of business because of change? How many went out of business because of technology changing? Maybe the Movie, Music and TV companies should sue the people that are putting them out of business.... like the people who invented the internet or the computer itself. It's like companies who built wagons pulled by horses suing automakers! Did the wagon makers sue the people that bought and used the cars? I mean everyone who has ever bought a car is partly responsable for putting wagon makers out of business right? Am sure there are 100 more examples just like this or even better.

And of course there is the last and one of the best arguments.....I just downloaded something, a "copy". Does the person who ownes to original still have it? Of course he does because I didn't "steal" anything! I can go buy anything I want and make an exact copy of it. Heck, look at china, they copy everything there. What I'm getting at is I can buy a car or a motorcycle and reverse engineer it and build my own....As long as I dont "sell" it for profit I haven't infringed on anyones "rights". I've NEVER downloaded a movie, Music or TV shows and then made copies and then sold them, not once not ever.....So I haven't hurt anyone or infringed on their rights anymore than I have with anything else. These 3 industries just think they are different and special, whereas the rest of the businesses on the planet just has to "suck it up".

posted by (2012-11-01 05:09:01)
partspuller56 avatarjust like every thing else, people will find away around it. ghost downloads

posted by (2012-11-01 11:36:37)
YozzerElNino avatarSo how do we get round it?,because i use bittorrent and i don't want them stopping me downloading my favourite tv programs... Any idea's thanks

posted by (2012-11-01 12:12:26)
Rockman avatar- 24 ) - Using vuze and peerblock for now but guess the only real answer is to use a seed box soon . .

posted by (2012-11-01 12:22:41)
No avatarinternet is there for dwnloading, if they stop things like bit torrent downloading, its simply, all you have to do is cancel your broadband, if everyone does it, the companies will have to take action and listnen to US.
these companies rely on us for money, no downloading, NO MONEY in their pocket, simply

posted by (2012-11-01 16:05:52)
coyote1947 avatarWe old folks pay for comprehensive cable service where almost everything is able to be copied and stored. I still pay everymonth for tv and movies and unfinished tv series . As a consumer i am often misled by advertising, and thier stupid commercials. No problem, for them but for me I start watching thier tv and movies, and then they cancell the program. Consumers have no protection to force producers to do what they promise. Do they think I would start a series if I knew it was going to be cancelled? I dont think so..what this is about is forcing people to view programs filled with thier asinine commercials..I still pay trhe cable companies for thier content even though I dont watch everything..when torrenting ends i will drop my extended broadband back to basic..but it still wont force me to put up with thier silly advertising I just will find another way..

posted by (2012-11-01 17:10:46)
AnalLint avatarbeevpn.com its the only one compatible with peerblock running at the same time. There is NO GOOD FREE vpn service! And I believe there is still a discount for ET users, you will have to search the ET info blogs for the link to discount. Hope this helps.

posted by Blocked (2012-11-01 17:54:31)
No avatarIf bit torrent downloading stop then finally end of whole internet and WWW

posted by (2012-11-01 21:13:39)
kschomisch avatarThe movie industry could change with the times and use a lot more product placement or make streaming copies available really cheap from day 1 because all of us go to the theater now and then but streaming/downloading is here to stay--figure out a way to make money with it knuckleheads!!

posted by Blocked (2012-11-01 22:46:31)
skreamer avatarMan there is a serious amount of BS on this thread, but the guy talking about previewing MP3s before deciding to buy the CD (or payable DL) makes an interesting point because outside of torrents there is a network that is non stop all day and night sharing all sorts of 'mp3' . In fact its quite conspicuous in society. Radio! I wonder what the CCI people make of that. After all all you need is an olde world compact cassette and you can obtain soooo many copyrighted tracks. It makes me wonder what the CCI would do if radio was invented right now. I'm sure they would want to stamp out this new evil

Eagle Soft forever!!!!!!!!!!!

posted by (2012-11-01 23:04:40)
cabo12072 avatarAs I sit here and read these comments I wonder how many representatives from any of the movie or music industry reads these post, everyone is right they need to come to terms about downloading, but shouldn't we be posting this stuff on the CCI website, or any other MPAA or RIAA site so our voice is heard? And what about browsers that have add-on video downloader's which allows you download any video on the internet? So say that I go to a site that has streaming copy written content and decide to use the browsers add on to download the video is it my fault that it is openly available. VIVA LA DOWNLOADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS TRY AND MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND IT CAN'T BE STOPPED.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2012-11-01 23:18:24)
Embolism avatarthose with Broadband should by right have anything they want and the ISP`s should with all the billions in revenue from our subscriptions pay a percentage of our monthly fees back to the industry to follow Richard Branson and other ISP owners in crusading against downloading through p2p will eventually bite them in the backside as when the witch hunts begin I will terminate my Broadband with the greatest alacrity as will many others who are tired of their endlessly repeated programming of the same regurgitated trash and for being squeezed for yet more money on top of TV and phone charges to watch something new for a change.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2012-11-01 23:32:33)
Embolism avatarI do also agree with some other comments that given 2 million users at a time on Azureus/vuze alone the manpower and police required to convict everyone on that application alone would cost Billions to execute and imprisoning those caught would be a major financial drain on the resources of whichever country that has to imprison them,in the UK the goverment cost of keeping one man alone in a cell equates to around 75 GBP per day per cell,multiply that by 7 and it is around 450 GBP a week per prisoner x that by 2M and you have a cost of almost 1 billion GBP per week to incarcerate all the users on Azureus alone,I thought we were in a recession or did I miss out on a sudden windfall somewhere,to bang all azureus users for 1 year is £328,500,000 not counting the cost of tracking them all down and the manpower involved as well as court costs.I think even the Chinese banks would baulk at the cost of such an undertaking and certain countries would become financially destitute if they were`nt already due to the Iraq and Afghanistan BS.

posted by (2012-11-02 01:42:32)
crazymichael avatarthey should just bring films straight to dvd and BR so where not paying twice to see it and it shouldnt be £16 for a BR disc its still the same movie and CDs shouldnt be £16 when theres only audio on it and most of them dont write there own songs

posted by menTurtle (2012-11-02 02:14:36)
DarkSideofTheMoon avatarI did not have downloading relationships with that computer.It wasn't me.It all makes my head spin reading about all the proposed clampdowns on downloading.It is starting to remind me of the movie sneakers.How they bounced the phone call of so many different places.Thanks For the article Sam.

posted by (2012-11-02 06:34:51)
No avatar"ill change my ip every minute and even then if they dont find the file in my computer they have nothing on me"

crazymichael, You are naive. Your ISP issues you the IP, they have and are required to keep records of who had IP and when.

To anyone who thinks, "just put it out same day around the world", doesn't know how the movie business works (nor understand the logistics of world wide releases). Perhaps when everything is digital and all it takes is an internet connection. I don't know about other places around the world, but North America is not 100% digital.

posted by (2012-11-02 06:49:37)
No avatarHeres some food for thought I agre with a lot of you the expense to go to a movie or say you shell out 9-10 bucks then it sucks now you are out the expense. but thing is and ppl dont believe me but a friend of mines dad works for a huge company they send him to japan a lot and he brings back DVDs of movies that arent even released in the US yet.......things that make you say HHHHMMMM we are supposed to live in a country of freedom??? For who? why is it not ok to share what we have with everyone?

posted by Blocked (2012-11-02 11:34:51)
o2david avatarlol - It is called sharing. It is not only allowed but it is normal. So, I gather, anyone lending out or even offering their friend a video, sees laywers tapping at their windows. This is delibrate. We see the same thing when personal generators take away hacker payment for power. They gets pissed! Huffy and puffy and blowww your house in.

posted by (2012-11-02 11:54:55)
No avatarIts scary tactics friends, we should stand together as pirates and form a international pirate political org and fight these bastards on there home soil!!! This time the pirates wont loose!!! Who will join me?
[email protected]

posted by (2012-11-02 12:24:58)
No avatar

Join them please

posted by (2012-11-02 14:34:18)
MeMoUpT avatarI'm already being sued from that. They talking about 30 grand. But the weird part is that the movie they are sueing me for has never been downloaded on my pc.

posted by men (2012-11-02 16:48:23)
topaz18046 avatarOn an unrelated matter I just wish to offer my condolences to our U.S friends during this storm emergency and its aftermath.

posted by Blocked (2012-11-02 21:22:00)
xADAMx54 avatar@Rockman, the only thing I know about free VPN's mate is that their way to slow for my impatience.

I use "iPredator" along with Viscosity on Mac and get speeds i am happy to accept. I was convincing my elderly Mother yesterday to join their service as she is quite a serious downloader who loves to hook up all the oldies she knows with movies... At times i wish i never taught the old dear how to torrent!

Personally i spend around $7.40 a month for 98% peace of mind, i say 98% because the VPN sometimes disconnect and revert back to unprotected downloading whilst trying to reconnect. Hence i am always monitoring whats going on when downloading as I never want to give those sharks any of mine or my little old Mum's money.

posted by Blocked (2012-11-02 22:35:57)
duhbst3pah avatarBitch Please. I think most of us on here understand how to protect ourselves from bs like this. This is elementary stuff:Everyone should use a PAID vpn with no logs, no free vpn's because there is a reason it is free. They are selling your information and most likely log IPs. Use disk encryption always. Surf securely with HTTPS Everywhere. And on and on. This will only effect uninformed noobs.

posted by (2012-11-03 01:01:39)
maddog69 avatarEvening all! New member here. I'd like to add something to the post from skreamer. In a lot of cities, one of the biggest "sharers" is your local library. Now don't start laughing but just consider this. Most libraries are networked to other libraries (in my case, the whole state) and if your local library doesn't have what you want, they request it on their network. You can check out music CD's, DVD movies, and of course books. But are you infringing on the artist's copyright? I hardly think so, because you're not being charged to borrow these items. Besides, I make a copy of whatever I check out, except for books, and since they're always returned before the due date, no money ever changes hands. And I have gotten new releases within a week of its becoming available. Is the CCI or the RIAA going to shut down or fine the libraries for sharing? If they try to do that, then the world will definitely come to and end from these Gestapo tactics.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that once a song or movie has been performed it becomes "in the public domain" and not subject to royalties. As an example, if royalties are imposed on all the classical music that is available, then who is getting the money? The generations of heirs of the composers? Or the publishing houses that originally published the works? Probably not. So what's the big deal with these government idiots anyway? Like they've never shared anything before in their lives! Yeah, right!

Anyway, that's my rant for today.

posted by (2012-11-03 04:27:12)
No avatarI am an engineer that held patents. These lasted for 1 year provisional and 20 years after that . This gives us inventers TWENTY ONE YEARS PROTECTION of our interlectual property. WHY SHOULD COPYRIGHT BE ANY DIFFERENT ? It takes a lot more resources to produce something that it does to publish anything...P2P file sharing has proved thatpoint! Food for thought.

posted by Blocked (2012-11-03 07:56:33)
aboutlove45 avatarit's

posted by (2012-11-03 09:11:43)
No avatarThey already passed a law 20 years ago making it not illegal to record a personal copy from your TV by VCR (now by TIVO, DVR, ...). They put TV shows on their sites to view for free. Music is freely viewable and downloadable via YouTube, and now, lots of movies, too. In fact, lots of B-movies from the 70s, 80s, & 90s will cease to exist when the VHS tapes go sour unless they're converted to digital (and put on a cloud like YouTube). Anyway, why clutter up your working hard drive? Offload after a while and most of what you have is unfindable. Torrents transfer randomly, so to catch a segment they would have to snatch for a while. Just how much taxpayer dollars should be spent this way? Especially where much of file sharing has no copyright infringment. See, it's ok for the rich elite illuminati like YouTube to make money hosting copyrighted content claiming they aren't publishing or distributing it; but anyone else is an unmutual, obsolete heretic. It's just another pretext for burning at the stake, again.

posted by Blocked (2012-11-03 14:04:03)
skreamer avatarmaddog libraries pay a substantial amount for their collections to reflect the economic loss that a loaned book etc may mean in relation to lost book sales. More to the point, as someone said on another thread (ISPs about to start the 6 strikes rule article where visiting a notorious site seemed to get a strike even if you didn't DL a bean) is the existence of photocopiers at libraries.

@#45 how do you https everywhere? ET right here is only http.

I will also be a bit cheeky and ask this (nobody has replied in the Forum) On the point of proxies I generally read your IP address will not be shown to the machine the other side of the proxy and all both sides see is the IP of the proxy server.

If we both see the proxy IP and nothing else I assume, in theory, there is no point in running blocklists with a proxy connection in utorrent?

Why do I question this? I have always run blocklists and even when utorrent is now connected by an hi anon proxy I still get lots of blocks with PeerGuardian and I can't see why if everything is based on the single proxy IP?

I'm confused!

posted by (2012-11-03 14:29:39)
hitmalik1 avatarcan this b happen ?

posted by (2012-11-03 15:03:58)
No avatarunless we form an organized organization with the same goal we "could" all be smoked out and be picked off one by one... alone. I am guessing it would take us what lose 25%? 50%? 75%? or pirates before we all stand together and do something?

posted by (2012-11-03 15:30:39)
No avatarIs it best to stop now or what?

posted by (2012-11-03 22:48:44)
qualisar avatarwe the people shall do as we like and if anyone tries to stop us our unity shall squash the greedy and control freaks.

posted by ET junkiemen (2012-11-04 01:44:41)
4GET avatartry smoke machines or better pickled bottles of produce

posted by ET junkiemen (2012-11-04 01:52:12)
4GET avatarmeaning are we all going to hide inside a tin can..if so we are dead already

posted by (2012-11-04 06:23:35)
No avatarI torrent, because I can. I "WILL NOT" pay for trash. Like many of the previous posts, I too have been burnt buying an album or cassette only to have 90% of it suck. Have also gone to my fair share of movies that have simply sucked and shouldn't even be worth mentioning on an actors resume.
I have *copied* friends/relatives albums and cassettes so I could listen and enjoy them. I have *copied* friends/relatives movies on VHS so I could watch and enjoy them. I have also purchased *USED* records/tapes/CDs so I could enjoy them. I also download any movie, tv show, album, and book that I feel interested in. Some tend to not be worth my time spent Dloading. Some have been great. I am not poor to the point that I can't afford to buy retail or pay to watch theater releases. But I am also not rich enough to spend my money foolishly anymore. An above poster used the term *sampling*. I will use the phrase all of our parents tried teaching us before kindergarten.
That is why I SEED and will continue to do so.

posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendET loverSuperman (2012-11-04 12:16:02)
mickjapa108 avatarSo by definition,What is an actor ?? A professional liar by trade ??.(the better the liar,the better the actor)
So please explain to me, YOU, Americans Why do you elect so many so called actors/liars to run your Country.
And why are you surprised these actor/politicians are spending so much money (your TAX dollars)on helping their
mates buy another collection of super-cars , Ask yourself, is protecting a vampire movie more important than seeing the POOR get proper health care,
What a Fcuked up Country you live in,I suppose its to late to appeal to your intelligence, you've already been
ingesting, Aspartame,Corn Fructose & other Poisons meant to stop you thinking for yourselves

America has CopyRight grain seed, OH!! can you believe that LOL no FcUK
The CopyRight on water is pending Ha Ha.

posted by (2012-11-04 13:45:05)
Rockman avatarNaaa don t stop ever just use proxies or vpns or seedboxes so they can t ever find you . .

posted by (2012-11-04 20:56:20)
No avatarTo all the people saying that making a CD doesn't cost that much, you have no idea what you're talking about. It costs thousands to hire a studio, producer, recording engineer, mixing engineer, mastering engineer. Artwork guy, promotion company doing all the promo for the album, etc. All in all, from back to end it can cost you around 30 thousand (if we're talking about a big artist), so stop saying stupid crap please.

posted by (2012-11-05 16:19:49)
wjacobi avatarThis is verry true! I just got hit buy them and RoadRunner. They shut my modem down and sent me a message that I was being tracked and asked me to shut down all bit torrents and pear to pear programs. Had to elect. sign that I did this and they resumed service. I know now that I'm being watched so will have to stay away untill I can find a good mask.

posted by ET lover (2012-11-05 22:03:09)
fullspeed avatartotally agree with Infectious.Only I have seven kids .

posted by ET lover (2012-11-05 22:05:28)
fullspeed avatarIf they wanna stop us why dont we just boycott these isps and stop using them.An idea would be to to form a new isp which is run and owned by the torrent community

posted by ET lover (2012-11-05 22:08:34)
fullspeed avatarif everybody in the entertainment business got paid regular peples wages then I would happlily buy their movies because then it will be correctly priced for everybody. They makie mega millions while they complain about the pocket money lost that they spend for fuel for their luxury automobiles.Thank you I like robinhood.

posted by (2012-11-06 14:36:24)
doozy avatarmoney money money nowt else matters to them

posted by (2013-03-12 07:32:19)
No avatara little of topic but i got a letter from wicked what do i write in reply to tell them get of my back..i have read before there is certain words to make them shut up and leave me alone. does anybody know how?

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