How to Recognize Offensive PostsAdded: Thursday, January 3rd, 2013
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The guidelines were revealed to define middle ground between a threat and a joke. According to them, people posting offensive messages on various social networking services could face less criminal charges.
The guidelines were set out by Director of Public Prosecutions Keir Starmer QC. They resulted from the prosecutions over offensive posts which had a “chilling effect on free speech”, while the QC claimed that loads of people on both Twitter and Facebook were accused of criminal activity every day.
The guidelines specify that some users might avoid trial if they are sorry for criminal comments made while drunk. The rules in question come after a number of controversial cases. The most famous was the May 2010 conviction of Paul Chambers. This guy was wise enough to joke on Twitter about blowing up Robin Hood Airport in South Yorkshire.
Chambers’ conviction for posting a “menacing” tweet caused global outrage and was eventually quashed on appeal in the High Court. Keir Starmer explained that the Crown Prosecution Service had now dealt with over 50 cases relating to potentially criminal comments published on the Internet. But he also pointed out that there was so far very little case law set by senior judges that could guide whicht trials should go ahead.
Starmer has now set out new interim CPS guidelines which are supposed to strike the right balance between freedom of expression online and upholding criminal law. They also aim at raising the threshold against which people should be prosecuted: for instance, the social media messages carrying credible threats of violence, a targeted campaign of harassment, or those which breach court orders will be prosecuted.
To be prosecuted, a post must now be considered more offensive, shocking or disturbing, rather than just a joke or rudeness, according to the guidelines. In addition, if a message is promptly deleted, blocked by ISPs or site operators, or written by a minor, then prosecution is less likely to take place.
The guidelines in question take effect immediately and are currently subject to a consultation process. But they are only guidelines, not a strict law.
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2013
|posted by (2013-01-03 13:44:07)|
|I don't believe that the concept of "offensive" is something that is carved in stone. Rather, it is a matter of opinion. For example, just because it is your OPINION that something I say or do is offensive, that does not mean that I find the same thing offensive. The same thing goes for morality and immorality. Who am I to define the next person's morals? How can I say that something is immoral? Morals, offensiveness, humor, etc., are all based on personal opinions, just like this post is MY personal opinion and the next person may not agree with me.|
|fat people and women with implants are offensive. so lock them up too.|
what one person thinks is offensive might just be petty nonsense to another...
who can decide which is which? someone with no sense of humor? then we're all screwed.
|According to those nuts who write our laws and make the rules, we all might be screwed, Our PERSONAL OPINIONS are just to damn "Offensive" these days. Better watch what you say, or lawsuit. Discrimination, hate crime, ageism, sexism, manism, feminism, whatever sort of made up discrimination they want to make up. Maybe people should just not get so butt-hurt about somebody's opinion. I look at it this way, who gives a F$*^# What somebody thinks about you as long as you're happy. Interesting article.|
|posted by (2013-01-03 18:10:43)|
|go check www.extratorrent.com/forum then you will see|
|posted by (2013-01-03 19:09:43)|
|im gonna kill Keir Starmer.|
|posted by (2013-01-03 19:19:35)|
|fusseltier - try this sometime - walk up to a woman in a Plus Size Clothing store and say - "Hey Fatty I don't like your t i t s", how much you wanna to be she is going to be offended? It's called common sense.|
GKNByNW - If what you say is true then the men that brutally raped and beat the young girl to death on that bus in Pakistan were perfectly within their rights, cuz in their opinion they were just having fun.
A persons opinions may have merit but unless they take ownership of their opinions and accept the consequences they should keep their opinions to themselves.
|There is however a rule to the argument and that is if everyone on your Facebook is supposedly your friend and you were having a joke with a friend he would`nt, should not take it to the level of being overly litigious and taking you to court since such is a vexatious waste of a courts time whereby you announce it was a joke in poor taste and the court releases you without charge and costs are paid by the plaintiff.|
|Breach of order e.g harassment,incitement to violence,criminal activities up to and including terrorism will and can be prosecuted and the CPS message is that they will prosecute so watch what you type in your facebook,this year marks the formation of a new British Cyber division.|
|posted by (2013-01-03 20:52:04)|
|"posting offensive messages on various social networking services could face less criminal charges"|
this only applies IF the site takes your email and reports it. chances are nothing will happen as this has been going on for years and still no action. Y do you think Yahoo stopped there chat?
|@6 Way to make a public death threat.|
@7 The difference in your argument is the raping of that girl is illegal. Opinions don't matter when they become criminal. Opinion is defined as:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
Someone's opinion doesn't give them any right to break established laws or commit crimes. I do agree that people these days get way to butt hurt when you give an opinion they don't like. Varying opinions are what has made this world a better place, the idea that giving an opinion that someone finds it offensive is offensive itself. I think fat people in bikini's or speedo's to be very offensive and disgusting. I think blaming everyone else for something you did so you don't have to take responsibility for it is offensive, but those are just my own opinions.
|posted by (2013-01-04 00:44:00)|
|The guidelines specify that some users might avoid trial if they are sorry for criminal comments made while drunk. Haha fuk u all drunk or not ill never say sorry|
|posted by (2013-01-04 01:40:10)|
|This is the kind of insanity I have been mentioning recently in my most recent posts. The infringements on all our lives are insane. We did not just wake up one day and it was like this. It has been a gradual increase with nothing more than some moaning about it whilst others accept and encourage it but no big show of people all standing together to show the governments that we aint gonna take this crap anymore. There are millions more of us than them but we just bend over and take it in the tailpipe every day. It wold not surprise me that if enough people did take a stand the powers that be would just declare marshall law or something and call the army out and start shooting people anyway. I wonder how long it will be before microchips are implanted at birth for good intentioned reasons to begin with before that technology is manipulated for more negative reasons. Google microchip implants.|
|posted by (2013-01-04 01:44:41)|
"I do agree that people these days get way to butt hurt when you give an opinion they don't like"
Great line. I needed that laugh, cheers.
|Wow some of these comments seem idiotic in my opinion.|
@7 If that is how you see it then should we just release all the rapists and murderers because they don't find it offensive to kill and or rape someone?
I hope people have more common sense than #7.
|that was in india, get your facts straight.|
yeah and walk up to someone that had too much plastic surgery and say wow, your face looks ridiculous, or go to india and say, eat a cow... and many other stupid things you can think of.
|posted by (2013-01-04 09:02:37)|
|These guidelines might be a good idea her on ET. I've been told to go F*** my mother, I deserve to die and been called all sorts of names here on ET. None of the people who wrote these comments would have the guts to say them to my face so maybe we need a better way to hold people accountable for what they write?|
|posted by (2013-01-04 11:43:16)|
|This is corrupt. Not even a symbiont leader can be ideal.|
Evil is a presents not behavior.
|posted by (2013-01-04 12:43:30)|
|god everyones a lawyer|
|first thing first "the law is an ass" that is what my law professor told us at the start of our degree, according to free dictionary this is the definition of offensive (Offending), adjective abhorrent, abusive, annoying, antipathetic, beneath contempt, biting, blasphemous, coarse, contemptible, contumelious, detestable, disagreeable, discourteous, disdainful, displeasing, disrespectful, distasteful, execrable, foul, gravis, harsh, hateful, heinous, hideous, horrible, horrid, ill-bred, impertinent, impious, impudent, inaffable, indecent, inharmonious, insolent, insulting, intolerable, invidious, irritating, loathsome, low, malignant, monstrous, nasty, nauseating, noxious, objectionable, obnoxious, odioous molestus, odious, offending, opprobrious, outrageous, peccant, putrid, reeking, repellent, repelling, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, ribald, rude, sarcastic, saucy, shocking, sickening, stinging, truculent, unbearable, uncivil, uncongenial, unendurable, ungracious, unmannered, unmannerly, unpalatable, unpleasant, unpleasing, unsavory, unspeakable, vile, wounding..... i think i must meet one person or think thoughts like these at least one a day and i am sure most people at some point also do..... so its clear, that there is no clear definition only interpriation and therefore can be eternally disputed|
|posted by (2013-01-04 22:44:56)|
|Cool post and answers|
|Have you not realized you are all on a primarily Indian torrent site, have you not yet realized that simply being of any other pursuasion is to the majority of this site "OFFENSIVE". Have you not realized that 99% of the opinions expressed here can be found to be "OFFENSIVE" by at least one person who has more power online than you do....|
Its pathetic really people are so fukkkking sensitive and immature.......some people say breast feeding in public is offensive, FFS up until the early 20th Century incest was considered to be a privilege of the royal and wealthy. In india killing your daughter because she refuses to participate in some strange marriage custom is normal. These days we are so tolerant its scarey homosexual stare death in the eyes every time they take another penis in the ass, that used to be considered offensive.....
|posted by (2013-01-05 09:45:37)|
#7 did not actually mean what he/she said literally, he/she was being sarcastic.
|posted by (2013-01-06 02:01:10)|
|stop Russia and USA missiles arsenal if people can understand.|
|posted by (2013-01-06 02:11:25)|
|solyd - thanks for that|
#16 What i would like to see done to rapists and/or killers is not something I think should be shared on the internet. In part because if I we presented with a circumstance when my beliefs were put to the test I wouldn't want to advertise.
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