US Warned Everyone against Helping SnowdenAdded: Tuesday, July 2nd, 2013
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The US threatens the countries which don’t listen to their wishes when it comes to handing over ex spy agency contractor Edward Snowden. The latter is currently on the run after leaking details of PRISM to the media.
Edward Snowden proved that the American government spied on its own citizens through some dodgy court orders made possible by the Bush government’s Patriot Act. Thus far, the political establishment has claimed that it was acting within the law. However, since the initial leak, further evidence emerged, including details of a British GCHQ operation to wiretap fibre-optic cables essential to online communications.
Edward Snowden originally ran to Hong Kong, afraid of the reaction of the American government. However, he has now left, because the US tried to have him extradited. Hong Kong told that the US would have to apply for a formal extradition according to the legislation and that it was illegal to hand over people because of the government’s pressure.
While the US and Hong Kong traded blows, Edward left to Moscow, and it is thought that he will fly from Russia to Cuba. In the meanwhile, Ecuador considers the option of granting him asylum just like Julian Assange.
For some reason, the United States said it expected the Russian government to send Edward back to his country. In addition, the US has lodged “strong objections” to Hong Kong and China over the decision to let him go.
The National Security Council representative insisted that Russia should look at all options available to return Edward back to the United States for questioning. The latter is currently threatening all other countries that even consider providing Snowden asylum – in an official threat, a State Department warned countries that Snowden shouldn’t be allowed to proceed in any further international travel other than back to the US.
While American government is busy snubbing China and Russia for their assistance to Snowden, it ignores the reasons the countries could have to do so. The matter is that Edward Snowden revealed that the United States had been serially hacking into Chinese computers and mobile phone firms. It has also targeted China’s elite Tsinghua University – the alma mater of many of the country’s top leaders.
In the meantime, Ecuador and Cuba, where Snowden may want to travel, are members of the ALBA bloc – an alliance of social democratic or purportedly leftist governments in Latin America which pride themselves on their credentials of national autonomy from the US.
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Tuesday, July 2nd, 2013
|posted by (2013-07-02 13:56:46)|
|@US; you have no power here lol.|
|posted by (2013-07-02 14:02:30)|
|lmao typical americans 1st they claim to have invented the internet now there been tinpot dictator,s they can shove there bigheads back up there butts where it belongs. They bleat on about 7/11 like we brits give a toss we had to live with 20 years of ira attacks financed by irish/americans so stfu and get over it|
|posted by (2013-07-02 15:40:44)|
|9/11, not 7/11. 7/11 is a convenience story in America. We really don't talk about it much at all unless we want a Slurpee. Then, I admit, there can be much bleating.|
|posted by (2013-07-02 16:03:36)|
|"@US; you have no power here lol."|
You would be very surprised what they can do.
on topic: This is nothing new and we all know it. Every country out there is spying on each other including yours and our allies.
|posted by (2013-07-02 16:35:27)|
|lol i stand erected i mean corrected wenex|
|regardless of how people think, he is still a traitor.|
he had a security clearance and divulged national security information, which is one of the worst things you can do to your own country.
besides that, it was his job, he worked for the government, and had a security clearance, and that's not whistle blowing, its treason.
anybody with any sense in the world already knows the US can do anything imaginable with all forms of communications throughout the world.
|The U.S. government was designed to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Where were its representatives when wiretapping decisions were made? I highly doubt that they were included in those decisions. The NSA has had carte blanche for far too long. The Electronic Frontier Foundation has it right.|
|I would shake Edward Snowden's hand and buy him a beer.|
|posted by (2013-07-02 17:13:21)|
|Snowden is the man of the year, and wait for more Leaks they are coming at the end of this year,hohohoohh!!! i like leaks.|
|Treason my butt you fool he has not betrayed any agents or undercover ops he just showed that your government talk a load of crap, dont throw stones in glass houses obama you fake and lier they are just like our polititians liers and cheats who only line their own pockets Snowden deserves a medal.|
|posted by (2013-07-02 18:20:22)|
|you can run, but you can' hide traitor!|
|I have to agree that Snowden is a traitor and is guilty of treason. He had access to confidential information and leaked if to the public. No matter how you look at it it is treason. That being said, I believe he did the right thing and our current government is wrong. All change starts with someone standing up against the current ways. However unless his actions result in the American people taking action and leads to a significant political change then he will be nothing more than a traitor and will be hunted down and executed as one.|
|posted by (2013-07-02 18:40:01)|
|its a shame the US dont do the same when it comes to handing over bush to the hague for the war crimes trials that are needed, no they tell him not to travel....|
its bullying on a major level what there doing to the world,
its good these other countries are helping these people out when they tell the truth...
as the public wont be any wiser listening to there rubbish they feed the public...
|Just in "India turns down Edward Snowden's asylum request" what a shame, my pathetic money sucking government is just sucking obama's di*k. First my country declined Assange's request for asylum and now Snowden's. I hope that the italian biatch ruling us goes to hell soon.|
|posted by (2013-07-02 19:24:17)|
|Stalinism = McCarthyism = Obarmaism.|
names are different but the oppression is still the same.
NORAID was the "umbrella" used by the US to fund the IRA.
The US should stop believing their own films they are not all powerful with everyone trembling at them
|posted by (2013-07-02 20:56:55)|
|we need to make our own stuff in the USA to generate some more jobs, hell with making them richer while our country get poorer|
|posted by (2013-07-02 21:09:06)|
|I'm American.... Our country is so hell-bent on trying to bully people in to doing what they think is right, it's absolutely pathetic. All this guy did was tell us openly how our own government is violating our privacy and civil rights, and they call him a traitor. I'm the one that feels betrayed, by the very country I call home.. Shame on you... Go catch a terrorist or someone that actually does something bad for a change!!|
|you guys need to educate yourselves treason is divulging govt information to the enemy. are the American people the enemy ?|
|we need more people like snowden and assange ..as for the yanks they think they rule the world NEWSFLASH YOU DONT|
|Did u know if he is harmed more files will be leaked ? Not to smart but smart none the lest...|
|He's not a traitor like Ron Paul said a traitor is someone who shares information with another country or enemy he just informed the American people what their own government is doing to them. If the Government is against that then it considers its own people the enemy and that is a dictator or tyrant exactly the opposite the US is suppose to be. Ironically the US will celebrate July 4th and this issue is hypocritical to what Independence Day means.|
|This is what will happen- later down the road when the guy thinks he's managed to hide, a black op will simply put a bullet in his head. Governments are patient, and most of this media crap is just hype. Let the rabbit run- rabbits need food. Poison his food.|
As for those outside your countries throwing stones- yours, no matter where you are would/will do the same thing, they just candy coat the thing before they make you deep throat it.
Personally, I feel sorry for the guy, too young and too stupid.
|Nobody trusts the US, so why do they thinking threatening other countries will get them anywhere|
|posted by (2013-07-03 02:15:11)|
|"are the American people the enemy ?"|
No more than the German people were the enemy of the Nazis or the Stasi. Or the Russian people the enemy of the Soviet Union.
|posted by (2013-07-03 02:20:18)|
|Anyone who thinks Snowden is a traitor, is a traitor themselves and should be deported to China. The founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.|
The GOVERNMENT exists to serve the people, yet it only serves itself and rich corporaations screwing over the world.
|posted by (2013-07-03 02:43:12)|
|He knew who he was going to work for.Not PBS or Sesame street.I mean really was he that naïve? I think most Americans already believe that the spying is worldwide and in our homes since 911.An oath is still an oath, or has that changed? I feel he thought he was doing good but look where that has gotten him.I wish him luck, he needs it but Russia and or whoever can keep him.|
|And now we learn what happens when the US comes up against all these foreign policy issues all at once. Suddenly countries they aren't overly friendly with, don't want to help them out, especially when it comes to returning someone proving that the US is doing dodgy, illegal things against said countries, shocking.|
Also, doesn't the US have DOZENS of russian citizens that they are protecting because the government wants them back to have a "chat" and refuse to return them to Russia, but Russia should just happily hand over an America?
Oh America.. you're so adorable.
|Contrary to most opinions I go with the guy being another hero of the people ,whilst Americans cry foul they really need to look in the mirror as over 100 corporations in America are given immunity to collect and store their private information in breach of their own rights and to wire tap them if they have any contacts overseas for up to a week before a court order is required,the Government is upset because Obama and all the Prism Corporations Microsoft etc,etc have been exposed as spying on those that that have put them where they are today through election and financially supporting their business when they say BS like the new Windows protects your privacy and Obama claims to be concerned for the peoples right of privacy it is all shown as a sham and that is why they want Snowden so bad not for being a spy that has been done by the Man and all you Americans are the victims of your own government.|
|It would be interesting to know if Virgin Media formerly NTL and now owned by an American is also within Prism since it then would have American immunity from spying on it`s clients in Europe and be giving further information to the NSA with Immunity to do so from the white house and scope to spy in the UK and Europe,food for thought not that MI6 and the new Police Cyber division in the UK do`nt already follow suit and spy on its citizens another example of American influence in Europe and not for the better.|
|posted by (2013-07-03 05:47:25)|
|A variation on what I posed in the Julian Assange thread:|
Can't fxcking believe it! The biggest story of our lifetimes breaks about a worldwide surveillance state that captures EVERYTHING, and some people here insist that the guy who exposed an ***ILLEGAL*** and ***CRIMINAL*** operation is guilty of treason and should be jailed. Or worse.
You people are a real piece of work. You download all your stuff here illegally and thumb your nose at authority. Then you side with the very same authority which wants Snowden and Assange dead. The same authority which has stressed that stopping terrorism, hacking and ***intellectual property violations*** are their highest priority. You hypocritical motherfxckers. fusseltier, hijiri2, CREEP_INC: I'm looking at you. Punks.
|posted by (2013-07-03 06:48:12)|
|""""to return Edward back to the United States for questioning""""|
For QUESTIONING? Nope.... the U.S. doesn't wanna Question him.
The U.S. really wants to Shut Him Up PERMANENTLY... as in,
Mysteriously make him DISAPPEAR... encased in concrete, 6ft under,
buried in some far away undisclosed location, and any leftover traces of
him washed away with sulfuric acid.
And those who execute and bury him will also be permanently Silenced.
Snowden's a HERO for Exposing BIG BROTHER's true colors.
He is NOT a "traitor", he spoke some Truth.
Truth has never killed anyone..... Lies DO.
|I agree with Solis if you preach to be whiter than white dont cry foul when you are caught and our country the uk is no better i would not trust our polititians as far as i could throw them anyway most of ours have been caught out,like the polititian who was funding his online porn channels through his expenses claim,and the one that FORGOT that his house was paid for and claimed on that,and now we learn GCHQ has been doing the same backdoor snooping as the US and our snooping charter was defeated in parliment but they still went ahead and did it they should all be in jail.....F*****g liers all of them.|
|Terrorists your game is through,|
cos now you have to answer to,
|You gotta be kidding bricktop5 you telling me you won in afganistan bull,and if im not wrong two terrorists just set nail bombs of there in the usa,bet your gonna tell me next you won in Vietnam ha he he!|
|Tensions escalate after the Usa revokes Evo Morales' Bolivian passport. Bolivia argues this is an act of aggression. And Snowden caught in the middle.|
|Solcis you are either an idiot or you didn't read more than the first sentence of my post, I have to believe it is the former. I didn't side with the government, infact I said the Government was wrong and that Snowden did the right thing. Regardless of personal feelings there is no denying the facts. FACT SNOWDEN TOOK AN OATH TO KEEP CLASSIFIED INFORMATION THEN BROKE HIS OATH! You can say whatever you want about it but that is a betrayal any way you look at it. Personally I hate the current administration and believe it has turned this country into more of a dictatorship than a democracy, but regardless Snowden worked for this administration and betrayed it. As I said before unless his betrayal results in the American people standing up to the government and results in a significant political change then the current administration is going to hunt Snowden down as a traitor, he should have known this when he revealed what they were doing. You think you can just go against the government then walk away unscathed, they are going to hunt him down and kill him and they will do the same to anyone who goes against them because that is what oppression is and this is the age of oppression like it or not. So go ahead run your mouth about other people some more when you don't know how they feel. While you're looking at me, look at this, FXCK YOU.|
|Cheers to Osama Obama..|
|posted by (2013-07-03 21:33:20)|
|creep_inc so your saying he took an oath & he should have carried on doing the illegal snooping regardless of illegality or morality ?|
If that is so why were the Nazis prosecuted for running the death camps.
One thing missing from this episode is it being called somethingGATE that is the curse of Watergate. oops that was another time someone caught snooping.
|posted by (2013-07-04 00:33:30)|
|"FACT SNOWDEN TOOK AN OATH TO KEEP CLASSIFIED INFORMATION THEN BROKE HIS OATH"|
And how many government officials who have taken an ***OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION*** have HORRENDOUSLY violated that oath in taking part in criminal programs such as Prism???
|posted by (2013-07-04 00:40:50)|
|CREEP_INC, by your definition of "treason" (which Snowden has NOT been charged with btw!), George Washington would be considered a traitor, as would all of the Founding Fathers. And so would any German who blew the whistle on the concentration camps during WWII.|
What a joke.
|1. All you mouth breathers blaming Obama. Need to get a clue. The information and practices leaked by Snowden, were put into practice long before Obama came into office and have been approved year after year by the Congressional security council since 2002.|
2. The reason countries do not want to grant Snowden asylum, is because that would set a precedent that no major country wants to set. All major countries spy on each other. No matter if friend or foe. That's just the reality of global politics. If one country decides to gran asylum to this type of crime then it would open the door for it to be done by other countries to them.
I'm a staunch progressive liberal and I can tell you the thought of turning over one of our former presidents to authorities outside the U.S. makes me cringe. I did not and still don't support the Bush doctrine but turning him over is completely out of the question. When America wants a foreign president or dictator we don't ask for him or her to be brought to us. If we what that person that bad we go to them. So simply put if a country wants one of our former or current presidents. Put your big girl panties on and do like we do. Come on over and play.
|Snowden voted for Ron Paul, a Tea Party candidate if there ever was, and Bruce Fein, a Reagan appointee and subsequent opponent of every succeeding president, has publicly called for the impeachment of Clinton, Bush and Dick Cheney on roughly the grounds he lays out on behalf of Snowden's father.|
Now, when Obama, together with the Republican establishment, has set his sights on the political evisceration of the Tea Party movement, this happened. The remarkable thing is how little this is said and looked into.
|To you idiots calling him a traitor, Snowden exposed treason. He could not uphold his oath to the Constitution and not expose the tyranny going on in secret.|
Making a guy sign a non-disclosure-agreement and classifying information about criminal activity(dubiously claiming it's secret for security) doesn't get you a free pass for violating people's rights.
The oath to the Constitution takes precedent over any oath to an office, position, duty, or secrecy. It's those of you who maintain, participate, and cover up these violations, who belong in front of a firing squad.
He such a patriot we should make Ed Snowden president and just kick out everybody in the administration.
|posted by (2013-07-04 12:51:51)|
|he s having tea at our house,do 1 and leave him alone,,,NO ONE LIKES THE TRUTH|
|posted by (2013-07-04 20:47:26)|
|phen0m, your an idiot everything in your comment was inaccurate. 2 American computer scientists invented the internet, it was 9/11, and although misguided Irish Americans felt it was like their civil rights movement because they were told of how poorly they were treated by the British. It's misinformed turds like you that fill the internet with bad information.|
|posted by (2013-07-04 22:36:56)|
|What a man!! Brave fighter for human freedom , I will help him any day! Good for Russia and other countries for letting him go.||
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