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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Gmail Users Won’t See “Legitimate Privacy”

Gmail Users Won’t See “Legitimate Privacy”

Gmail Users Won’t See “Legitimate Privacy”

Added: Saturday, August 24th, 2013
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Industries Of Records, Gaming, Software, Movies
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, www.extrattorrent.com, 2013
Google confirmed that its Gmail users should not expect privacy while sending emails through the service. Google has recently filed a brief in federal court, saying that Internet users can’t be surprised if their letters are processed by the recipient’s email provider during delivery.

The legal brief admits that a person indeed has not legitimate expectation of privacy in data he or she voluntarily turns over to intermediaries. The complaint argues that, because of Google’s silence, people don’t consent to Google reading the content of emails. It also asserts that the company is violating state and federal wiretap legislation because it combs through emails in order to help with targeted advertising.

The motion of the search giant to dismiss repeatedly references how the process is automated. The company also suggests that users are aware, and explains that if the way it accesses emails is changed, it might criminalize such services as spam filtering and search.

Google argues that plaintiffs’ claims should be rejected because they would lead to anomalous results with far-ranging consequences beyond the allegations in the complaint. The theory saying that any scanning of email content by ECS providers is against the law would effectively criminalize practices representing an everyday aspect of using electronic mail. Google claims that plaintiffs’ attempt to carve out spam filtering and virus detection from their claims would underscore the fact that the above mentioned theory of liability otherwise encompasses the common services users normally depend on.

The case in question will be heard on 5 September in a San Francisco District Court by judge Luck H Koh. In the meantime, John M Simpson (Consumer Watchdog’s privacy project director) believes that users should take Google at its word and just not use Gmail if they care about their email correspondents’ privacy. He suggested that Google’s brief was using a wrong-headed analogy and compared sending an email with giving a letter to the Post Office. A person expects the Post Office to deliver the letter based on the address written on the envelope, rather than expecting the mail carrier to open the letter and read it. No more comments were provided by Google, which means that Gmail users were officially warned about the privacy issue.

August 24th,2013

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Date:  Saturday, August 24th, 2013

Comments (12) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2013-08-24 20:11:18)
No avatarScroogle=Skynet

posted by (2013-08-24 23:49:27)
beano111 avatarOK, so no more Gmail in Firefox. Unless you want trouble.

posted by (2013-08-25 08:17:13)
chains_in_uk avatarEncrypt Encrypt Encrypt

posted by (2013-08-25 11:57:18)
Jedimastersky avatarThanks SaM for the article, nice read.

Lets face it guy's this is not unexpected. It is Google we are talking about here. They don't give a Monkey's Arse about privacy only bringing in the big bucks by any means possible!

posted by (2013-08-25 15:59:52)
No avatarOh good! I hope this means gmail will read my email to them (i think I will send it to everyone of my contacts,everyday for a month!)
Hopefully they will get the message
- Banner ads DO NOT appear on my computer or my phone
-Any form of pop up DOES NOT appear on my computer or phone
-I DO NOT use google search anymore, because the narrow search field is pretty shite for researching new parameters.
If adverts appear on a youtube video then I blacklist the retailer for avoidance.
In general advertizing is not appreciated and has the opposite effect, this wont change only get firmer, so take note keep your adverts to yourself
Also I would love to know, Do you intend to make savvy users of your gmail go elsewhere, therefore reducing any unprofitable bandwith from your servers, leaving you with just the sheep? IS that the strategy because that is the effect!!

posted by Turtle (2013-08-25 18:16:06)
No avatar@1
Scroogle= NOT Skynet
Google = Skynet
Yahoo = Skynet
Face(Scan)book= Skynet
DuckDuckGo= NOT Skynet
Ixquick = NOT Skynet

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2013-08-26 05:03:19)
Embolism avatarIt`s not just Gmail that is targeted Apples encryption service by its own TOS stores and monitors encrypted mail and passes it on to the Feds if anything unlawful is mentioned and many of the more secure encryption services have been targets of the Governments in co-operation with the USA/NSA.With more and more Inter government agencies and ISP`s working with the NSA/USA we can expect TOR,I2P and other secure services to be attacked ,monitored or taken down for non compliance in the future as part of the CIA/NSA Global Strategy using workarounds to European law,Human rights and privacy all are rapidly being eroded as has been done in the USA so the insidious practice is spreading through their International bedfellows.

posted by (2013-08-26 09:49:20)
nurvx avatarI've always viewed the internet much like the airwaves. Some of you younger people may not remember any of this but these same arguments are recycled from the 80's. There were issues with recording live radio or taping TV shows as they aired for later viewing. Law finally made it clear...if its transmitted in the air, it's free game. That goes for TV, radio, cellphone calls. If you transmit it, then encrypt it. Google offers email at no cost to the user, because its paid for by adds...Just like network TV. They all gather demographic data to target adds.

Don't like it. Pay for a host, encrypt your email, or just don't put personal shit in em. Privacy and anonymity ended years ago. All we can do is avoid key words and phrases that'll put us in a watch list.

And just for the record, the CIA has no charter to operate domestically. The NSA's responsibilities are elsewhere. These agencies might be blamed in the media, but the agency truly at the forefront of domestic intelligence gathering is the Dept of Homeland Defense.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2013-08-27 04:10:17)
Embolism avatarunfortunately a lot of encrypted and supposedly secure email services and VPN`s are now being monitored or shutdown due to non compliance,one such secure email service used by our friend mr Snowdon shut its doors recently despite being profitable just so that it was not forced into such compliance,most will either be shutdown or comply when pressure is brought to bear.Microsoft(Fusion centres)Homeland security,NSA and all law enforcement agencies are on the case as with Radio Caroline working outside of the governing bodies jurisdiction does work but with America,Germany,UK and others supplying most of the servers the ability to work outside of their jurisdiction is dwindling,even the Russians are finding it hard not to appear to comply in the Hunt.What were supposedly secure services are foremost in their sights since those that seek to evade their perusal are in their mind most likely to be committing felonious acts and so high priority targets.

posted by (2013-08-28 16:52:20)
No avatarI have not read Google's brief in in support of it's motion to dismiss the case, but it sounds to me like their lawyers went too far in arguing that users of Gmail have no reasonable expectation of privacy in the contents of their email. A distinction has to be drawn between automated review for target advertising purposes and review of email content to flag a sender based on that content. It is settled law that an employee has no reasonable expectation of privacy in email received and sent through the employer's servers. However, just like snail mail delivered to the post office, there IS a reasonable expectation that the contents of the letter will not be read, even if the envelope may be scanned for explosives or drugs, for example. Google should make clear that Gmail users have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the content of their emails, such that content is never reviewed without a warrant by other than automated scanning for targeted advertising, and that there are never logs kept of those automated scans.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2013-08-29 21:54:20)
Embolism avatarThis is another example of the same type of closed inspection people under in the UK. www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/28/facebook-data-government

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2013-08-29 21:57:51)
Embolism avatarInteresting to note from the news article above that in the uk all misdemeanour's as well as serious security breaches will be handled in the same way.

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