Close Doors Discussion on Three-Strikes with ObamaAdded: Saturday, March 13th, 2010
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Lobbyists from Hollywood are working hard to launch an attack on Internet Service Providers and fast track tougher the copyright legislation in the US. Rahm Emanuel’s (White House Chief of Staff) brother, Ari Emanuel, declares that there has been some discussion related to such plans, and it was hold by the entertainment industry with President Obama behind close doors.
For many years the industry has been struggling for stricter measures against piracy in the web. It has achieved great results in France, where ‘three strikes and you’re out’ regime has already been implemented. Many other countries are also thinking such measures over.
Until now the Government of the United States hasn’t expressed any strong opinion on this issue, behaving relatively quiet. However, it seems now like that didn’t mean that similar plans weren’t being discussed outside of the public’s eye.
As Ari Emanuel says, a well-known talent agent in Hollywood and the baseline for the Ari Gold character in the Entourage hit series, the lobbyists of Hollywood are trying to convince Obama and the rest to implement the same legislation in the country.
Ari Emanuel said that they’re in the middle of the process of discussion with the president and several attorney generals. They are trying to ram through a ‘three strikes and you’re offline’ rule now, admitting that the current issue would probably result in a fight with Internet Service Providers.
From that excerption it’s impossible to evaluate the real nature of such talks. But as Ari Emanuel is the close relative of White House Chief of Staff, there can’t be any doubt that such talks are taken very seriously. President Obama, who swore to reduce the Washington lobbyists’ power, does not turn a deaf ear at least to this one thus far.
Actually, the US lawmakers have to take a look at the current situation in France before considering the introduction of a three-strikes regime. There the piracy rate has grew after implementation of a new law, while the projections were that up to 95% of the file-sharers would stop infringe copyright online.
Nevertheless, the entertainment industry seems to be that who turn a deaf ear, as it still goes on pushing the law, considering it the solution to Internet piracy, instead of admitting their own part in the core of the trouble.
March 13th, 2010Posted by:
Saturday, March 13th, 2010
|great read sam, they need to leave us the hell alone, the movie industry had record earnings last year. quit HATING!|
|posted by (2010-03-13 21:45:11)|
|Yeah, thanks for the info, Sam. I think such a strategy movement against piracy online for the whole "three-strikes-and-you're-offline" thing is just something to intimidate people from not doing it. If such a thing does happen, I think most people will stop their p2p activities and probably go out and buy the stuff as they're the type who think it's better to be safe than sorry. Though, I wonder what will happen if such a thing did happen and if the percentage would go down or still break even. If the percentage goes up even with something like that happening, it just states those are just big words, nothing less, nothing more.|
|Three strikes and you're offline? Don't really think ISP's are gonna go for this, as it would be one of the worst things they could do "business-wise". Maybe ISP's should back internet piracy, as without us, what will happen when you shut us down...LACK OF ANNUAL PROFIT!!!! Most hardcore pirates even pay them for "elite" packages which cost as much as twice the price of a "basic" packages, so what are you gonna do bout that? Next thing you know, the MPAA will be asking Obama for a bailout, even though their profits are record-breaking!!|
|Sorry to double-post, but, as a music industry recording artist I must add that torrents are single-handedly responsible for more than half of our album sales. Some get our music for free, while some like it enough to buy the album. "Any publicity is good publicity" as far as I'm concerned.|
|posted by (2010-03-14 03:09:25)|
|Naaa i don't think a three strike rule will scare off P2P users, wouldn t they just use peerblock, or hotspot or ipfilter or the free vpn etc more then ever and wouldn't these blockers keep up with any new; wouldn t it be fantastic if the ISP could form their own pirate party can t the President do anything right and tell MPAA etc to go screw themselves - sceech . .|
|Not to talk politics but if this is true it only furthers my opion of the president. We should impose a Three Stikes presidential rule. Not saying i voted for the guy or didn't. Just hate it when I see governments doing things they know are destined to fail. I would love to hear the tapes on whats said in those meetings. Makes you think. Thanks SaM and thanks Rahm Emanuel for having such a big mouth. God only knows that if you wanna keep something a secret now a days ONE person knowing is too many.|
|posted by (2010-03-14 07:38:26)|
|Also what about all the unsecure networks out there, some ppl tapping into others unsecure network. Even if the 3 strikes did become law they need to sort all the unsecure networks and free wii-fi hotspots first..|
|thanks for the read...|
|The movie and record companies are going to argue that piracy downloads hurts the economy and jobs lost at retailers because DVD disks and software websites have been hurt with lost revenues. if movie/record/software company can prove this, then obama may not have a choice; as jobs is his #1 concern. they will need to prove this with hard facts though.|
|To be honest, I think piracy has become too easy and too widespread and something needs to be done to get this out of the public eye a little.|
It used to be harder to share files and to even FIND them. I started with irc and at that time, I tried to explain to friends how to get stuff and they often thought it was too complicated for them.
These days, I know aunts and uncles who are almost computer illiterates that use torrents to download movies and games (hidden object games are a plague)
I am 100% for a peel back on piracy, if only so we can stop hearing about it in the medias everywhere. Most of the better uploaders are still going to be around, we'll just see many of the worst leechers disappear and I say to that: "Good riddance!"
I have a real problem with the stupid immature kids that feel entitled to getting everything for free. Guess what? you are NOT! These artists have to make a living too and if you steal it all from them, you'll get a big fat nothing at all.
Most of the good pirates (the ones I know at least) will get as much as they can but, still have a budget to buy the best material. I still buy games and dvds (going bluray soon, I think) and I still go to theaters. It's just that file sharing lets me enjoy everything else I couldn't afford to get. It's no money off anyone's pockets. I've always felt like this was the way to go and I know several who think the same.
But these days, the mentality seems to be "why pay for anything, when it's all free?"
This needs to change and soon.
Well, I seem to have veered off the subject a bit, so I'll be done for now.
|posted by (2010-03-15 13:19:22)|
|Close doors discussion? the hell with democracy we've been lied to there's no transparency Obama is an idiot.|
|posted by (2010-03-15 13:21:39)|
|This Obama Admin is very ignorant to fair use rights what a mess this idiot has us in I wish I never voted for him.|
|USE of the internet is FREE, and if you have the capability to use it, then anything you get on it is FREE. There is no reason for all these agencies to keep spending the money they are LOSING on a battle they can't win. This "war on piracy" is like the bush regime's policy on terrorism, its a NO WIN situation. Either go with it or create new ways of revenue that keep you in business. The way that movies and music are distributed are the culprits, not pirating. Guess why 8 track, cassette, and VHS are NO LONGER THE STANDARD in media storage and distribution...PROGRESS. Why are their no longer any ARENA SIZED concerts any more, why more artists are turning to the internet for self-distribution of their own work? They are TIRED OF BEING RIPPED OFF BY THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS!!! Movie and music distributors are the dinosaurs of a by gone era that smells its own extinction and simply wishs to take as much profit to the grave with it as possible. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING CAN BE BOUGHT ON THE INTERNET, this is the new business of doing old business, now a days, you are either fish or fowl. They want EQUALITY, fine...EARN it.|
|posted by (2010-03-15 16:11:02)|
|Thanks for the news, SaM. I'm finding that your articles here are some of the most timely, most informative reporting around on these kinds of topics.|
I have been using the net in one way or another since about 1991. In those early days there was a sense of liberation felt by many around the world. Slogans like "information wants to be free" and "national boundaries are just speed-bumps on the information superhighway" abounded and rang true.
But I was enough of a cynic even then, that I did not believe governments of the world were just going to lay down. Never underestimate their greed for power and their thirst for CONTROL. They will do anything, ANYTHING to have more.
The internet was created by some very bright people. Very bright people -- many of whom have a deep love of liberty -- still exist. I'll do whatever I can to fight the power, but I'm sort of counting on those very bright people... the sysadmins of the world if you will, to come to our rescue by creating new methodologies and new protocols that will thwart the evil forces that want to lock us all down.
|posted by (2010-03-16 02:18:31)|
|We need to keep up the fight and spread the word of truth about fair use rights and freedom of information.|
|posted by (2010-03-17 23:01:30)|
|three strikes and your offline sounds a bad idea, people should only get put offline for a while but only if they over abuse torrents. Not bloody 3 downloads.|
|posted by (2010-03-17 23:08:54)|
|Let em keep it up and they will hurt innovation and revenues haha.||
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