NSA Spying Ruled Illegal. Oh Really?Added: Saturday, December 21st, 2013
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A federal judge has recently ruled that the NSA’s phone record surveillance program was likely to be breaching the Constitution. Well, everyone knew that, but now it was said aloud, in the court and by the judge. He said that the NSA’s controversial program violates the Constitution’s Fourth Amendment protecting citizens against unauthorized searches and seizures.
The program developed by National Security Agency collects records of the time and phone numbers of every phone call in the United States, and it allows that database to be queried for connections to suspected terrorists. Media reports say that the judge “couldn’t imagine a more indiscriminate and arbitrary invasion than this regular and high-tech collection and retention of personal information on every citizen for purposes of querying it and analyzing without judicial approval”.
The judge is sure that the author of the constitution, James Madison, the person who was anti-democracy and believed legislators should be “disinterested” and act against the wishes of constituents, would be aghast by these authorities’ antics. This court ruling came down after conservative activist Larry Klayman filed a lawsuit against PRISM this past summer. The lawsuit claimed that the surveillance program violated the Constitution of the United States, along with federal laws, including the clear breach of privacy, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and the due process rights of US people.
So, the judge ordered the US government to stop collecting the phone records of the plaintiff and to destroy the records the agency already collected. However, he also stayed that order, thus allowing the government to argue that PRISM doesn’t violate the Constitution.
December 21st,2013Posted by:
Saturday, December 21st, 2013
|Just because it is ruled unconstitutional does not mean that they will stop doing it. They will just do it more covertly and claim they have stopped...sam is correct, anyone who has bothered to read and is capable or understanding English should know what the NSA is and has been doing is unconstitutional....|
|Yes, no 1 is correct, but we must support Larry Klayman and donate to FreedomWatch(dot org) in support of this because the hope is that by some miracle this isn't stricken down on appeal and that once it is formally judged as unconstitutional, treason charges may follow. It is for this reason imperative that people not only support Klayman in this case, but urge him and everyone to push for actual charges and accountability and the abolishment of these programs and dismissal of those at the NSSA that are participating in this cold war on their own country.|
|posted by (2013-12-21 17:26:03)|
|yep there is Illegal and there is "Illegal" we break the Law ..the powers that be "interpret" the law Here in the UK the goverment will simply stall or set up long inquirys until the public lose interest then GCHQ will be free to continue but maybe this time the public will not be put off by these type of tactics and demand change ...but then again maybe not. Research has shown that younger generations ( UK ) do not see privacy as a major issue as we have more CCTV surveillance ( for a long time now ) than any Country in the world and people just get used to it|
|The new century seems to have ushered in an era of unaccountable Wall Street Banksters ,Politicians, Crooked Businessmen, and Government Spy Agencies. The only people who get arrested and prosecuted are the destitute and the mentally ill. Might is right.|
|Also, the part about Madison saying that government shhould be "disinterested" is a bit misleading.|
What he was referring to was actually how laws were being passed to cater to specific interests of the constituents(somewhat like corporate lobbyists today) despite such laws being destructive to the nation as a whole.
In this sense he was advocating doing what is best for all constituents rather than simply trying to please them. So I think for instance, he would be in favor of say legalization of cannabis if he thinks it's what is best for the nation and people as a whole; rather than outlawing cannabis because some, or even a majority constituents demanded it, despite hurting the economy and health of the nation.
|thanks for the read.....as for this klayman guy he has sued EVERYONE he has ever worked for or with lol, he currently has like 13 open lawsuits|
|NSA don't give a monkeys about the constitution of any country, they are not working for the USA, it beggars belief at how dumb some people are. It's like if they say it, it's real if we say it it's false even though everyone knows it's the truth. So they have a multi-million pound investigation and pay a judge to say its NOT constitutional, O.M.G. he said NOT our own people are spying on us, oh the betrayal.|
The red pill/blue pill day is coming sooner than you think people.
|Here is something else to consider: All are innocent until proven guilty. Sadly, this seems to be twisted to apply to laws: All laws are legal until proven illegal. We suffer at the hands of those we've elected to uphold our Founding Father's Constitution, likely due to the fact that none of our elected officials understand what the Founding Fathers wanted.|
|posted by (2013-12-23 19:41:33)|
|Darkan9el, your comment about the looming red pill/blue pill day scares the shit out of me because, in all honesty, I believe that something like that is in our near to distant future. They say that truth is sometimes stranger than fiction and I firmly believe that after 9/11 the powers that be are capable of heinous acts against their own people. There have been catastrophic events such as wars and terrorist acts occurring every few decades in our past and I think we are due for something very ugly and world changing to happen soon. The only questions we have left to ask ourselves is who's going to pull the trigger? Someone from without or within our own government? Also, what type of weapon will be used against us? I truly believe that there are a relatively small group of rich and powerful people pulling strings and shaping our future to meet their own needs at the expense of the rest of us.|
|this is getting so old, in fact, its more than 20 years old.|
snowden didn't find something new, the mass data storage has been going on since the 80s.
|posted by (2013-12-26 01:30:05)|
|When people are afraid of their governments, it's tyranny...When governments are afraid of their people...that's democracy! He who has an ear, let him/her hear....||
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