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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Artificial meat

Artificial meat

Artificial meat

Added: Saturday, March 20th, 2010
Category: Headline News > World Affairs
Tags:Artificial meat
You may buy meat 10-15 years, who did not come from an animal. Ambitious Dutch scientists are resolved to eliminate the greatest threat to the environment - namely, meat production by livestock. Our cows and pigs pollutes more than all the world's cars, planes and ships combined.


This can become a large, red beefsteak.

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Dutch will create artificial meat from stem cells. It has so far managed to create some very small pieces of meat, but scientists estimate that, within a few years to replace the live animals.

It all depends on how much external actors will invest in the project:

"I think the whole production of meat will eventually be animal free - or with very few animals. If you invest enough in us, so it can be the first artificial meat to be ready for production about 10 to 15 years," says researcher Mark Post


The lead researcher, Mark Post.

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Most readily with beef and pork
There goes the best with beef and pork, but it is also thought to be able to produce both fish and chicken in the future.

Scientists create stem cells from muscle. The power is switched to the muscles which then become exercise. The exercise, which makes the meat tender.

Prospects for artificial meat will probably share the waters of the population


I am skeptical. Meat must come from live animals but come on whats next imo we should say stop EU already force most contry to get the meat paste were we can get a pork with fisk with lam with as a steak come on that make me puke badly were gonna end up eating stuff were not even sure about is realy meat or meat paste

Posted by:  Blocked
Date:  Saturday, March 20th, 2010



Comments (75) (please add your comment »)

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posted by (2010-03-20 18:33:40)
bluepeas avatarmeat paste?yuckie =( I agree with ya! Than years down the line, they'll be telling us their cloned meat causes anal cancer! I rather become a vegetarian than eat pretend meat >:(

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-20 18:37:45)
No avatarjust think about it you go down to get soem realy realy tasty steak what ever and it turns out to be meat paste but none told you

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posted by Site FriendSupermanimmortal (2010-03-20 18:50:34)
Big_A_Little_A avatarVery nice post taker,being a veggie myself I dont really see the point of having "fake" meat such as quron and the like,as you said " Our cows and pigs pollutes more than all the world's cars, planes and ships combined." not many folk know this due to all the propaganda pushed at them by the governments.The mass intensive factory farming produces about 18% of the total carbon emission of the whole world,an inconvenient truth that Al gore forgot to tell you in his film!

If all Americans ate no meat for …. days a week
This would result in the same carbon savings as taking 19.2 million cars
off the road in the USA for a year long.
1 day 99,6
If all Americans did not eat meat for one day a week, they would save
99.6 megatons of greenhouse gas emissions. This would save 46 million
return flights from New York to Los Angeles and back from Los Angeles to
New York.
2 days 199.2 If everyone in the US did not eat meat for two days a week, they would

There is a great film called "meat the truth" which deals with the issue of this topic
more information can be found here
http://www.meatthetruth.nl/index.html (will try to get this uploaded soon)

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posted by (2010-03-20 19:35:51)
heatkarma avatarim alrdy a vegetarian but it sounds cool

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-20 19:51:01)
No avatarwell now there is more then one kind off vegetarian

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posted by (2010-03-20 20:05:29)
terrillcase30655 avatarI dont want fake meat i say kill the animals I want real meat!!!

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-20 20:10:32)
No avataryes i wanna know what i put in my mounth i know my local butcher hates when i come in to his store if i need chopt meat i dematn to see him chipping it and he knows that he normaly run away i tell him i dont what the crap you cut up the morning ect so demant you see everything from your local butcher

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posted by (2010-03-20 20:14:17)
No avatarReally, it is naive to think that just not eating meat for one day will cut greenhouse gas emissions. The livestock do not cease to exist for that one day, they are still breathing, and pooping. Even if we gave up meat completely, what happens to all the livestock? Are the vegans and vegetarians suggesting we slaughter them all in one day?

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-20 20:16:03)
No avatarthe thing that realy crack me up badly is omfg when a cow part he make this amount off CO2 lol wtf come on wonder have much CO2 human do when parting now thats funny

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posted by (2010-03-20 20:54:44)
ic3m4l3 avatarQUOTE-----If all Americans ate no meat for …. days a week
This would result in the same carbon savings as taking 19.2 million cars
off the road in the USA for a year long.
1 day 99,6
If all Americans did not eat meat for one day a week, they would save
99.6 megatons of greenhouse gas emissions. This would save 46 million
return flights from New York to Los Angeles and back from Los Angeles to
New York.
2 days 199.2 If everyone in the US did not eat meat for two days a week, they would ---------------------------END QUOTE

LOL why wen thez a post on food does it ALWAYS come down to the yanks????muahaha

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posted by Site FriendSupermanimmortal (2010-03-20 20:59:31)
Big_A_Little_A avatar@ rab302 its naive to think that if people stopped eating meat for a day that the livestock would cease to exist for that day!
its a process called supply and demand.If people stopped eating for one day demand goes down so producers would need to produce less ,so supply and emissions would go down over a period of time.and oh yeah i can just imagine veggies and vegans advocating the slaughter of any animal!

@ Taker, here are the diffferrent types of veggies,

* Vegans: Strict vegetarians who do not eat meat of any kind, eggs, dairy products, or even do not consume processed foods containing any animal-derived ingredients such as gelatin are termed as vegans. There also includes a subset of vegans who call themselves as ‘raw vegans’ who only consume unprocessed vegan foods.

* Fruitarians: Some people have carried the concept of vegetarianism to another extreme wherein the people only eat fresh fruits, these people are called fruitarians.

* Lacto-ovo-Vegetarians: Vegetarians who do not eat pork, beef, poultry, fish, or animal flesh of any kind, but do consume eggs and dairy products are called lacto-ovo vegetarians.

* Lacto Vegetarians: Vegetarians who do not eat any type of animal meat or even poultry and eggs but consume milk are called lacto vegetarians.

* Ovo Vegetarians: Vegetarians who do not eat any kind of animal flesh or meat, and do not even consume milk, but eat eggs are called ovo vegetarians.

* Pescatarian: Pescatarians are those who refrain from eating all types of meat with the exception of fish. Usually this type of diet results owing to the demand for nutritional requirements fulfilled by fish.

* Flexitarians: Flexitarians are those who mostly stick to a vegetarian diet but occasionally eat meat.

* Pollo-Vegetarians: People who eat poultry, such as chicken, turkey, and duck but no other type of animal flesh and meat and the regular vegetarian ingredients are termed as pollo vegetarians.

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posted by Site FriendSupermanimmortal (2010-03-20 21:03:30)
Big_A_Little_A avatarOk numberonedon,
heres figures for the netherland's

If we all ate no meat for 1 day a week
Eating no meat for one day would lead to the same carbon savings as taking 1
million cars off the road for a year
It would save twice as many greenhouse gas emissions as replacing all light blubs with energy saving bulbs (2x 1,66 megaton)

and for the UK

If everyone in the United Kingdom ate no meat for .... days a week
If everyone in the UK abstained from eating meat for one day a week, this
would save 13 Mtons CO2 of greenhouse gas emissions. This would result in
greater carbon savings than taking 5 million cars off the road in the UK
(10.4 Mt CO2).
1 day 13
If all British people ate no meat for one day, they would save 13 Mtons CO2
of greenhouse gas emissions. This would be almost equivalent to replacing
one billion light bulbs with low-energy ones

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-20 21:21:23)
menahunie avatarJeez People this is called GMO - Genetic Modified Organism..
Remember the fiasco with the CORN... It still goes on and now its coming out it causes allot of problems like cancer and other things.

So the Dutch are trying to pass of a cancerous Tumor as FAKE MEAT?
THINK you are going to eat something that has been genetically changed and what about the DNA YOU WILL ASSIMULATE FROM THAT???
Increase in cancer or what?
Holy crap i am just trying real hard not to hurl over this...

Bottom line in my Opinion is it is no different than you buying and cooking a TUMOR and then EATING IT....

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-20 21:36:07)
No avatarjust think about it the other way if ppl stop eating meat damm there is gonna be alot off ppl with out a job think about all the tiem paper ect posting to welfare bla bla ect

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posted by (2010-03-20 22:05:51)
moontan101 avatarYOU PPL really think the healthy food your eatin NOW is good!
LMFAO uncle and autie!! :-) your health food is crap! full of chemicals!
pesticides and anticoagulants and such! you'd be better served eating meat!
I know a food specialist who admits that the eco-friendly veggan foods are the most toxic in the food change- and ya know what- Look at the people that eat that chit :-))it is TRUE ~LMFAO!!

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posted by ModeratorTrue LoveGirl (2010-03-20 22:10:36)
SiLvErDuSt avatarIf it stops your Farts Taker then its a good thing,lol

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posted by (2010-03-20 22:11:39)
moontan101 avatarbtw uncle and auntie- I liked your old avatar much better! Hmmm ~must be too many of those toxic greens ;-) Mwahahahahaha!

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posted by (2010-03-20 22:15:50)
jenga122 avatarAnyone remember a movie called Soylent Green. By the way, if everyone in the world quit eating for 60 days the planet would restore itself to a virgin land in less than a thousand years. Gimme a break, I eat meat because I'm a carnivore and I have canine teeth to tear apart the flesh. No problems with vegetarians but seriously. Most Vegans are self righteous and condescending pricks who like they are one meal short of starvation. Yes, there's a difference between a vegetarian and a vegan.

Also I eat beef because my boots are made of leather and I hate to throw the leftovers away.

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posted by (2010-03-20 22:17:49)
terrillcase30655 avatari dont care what green house gases eat cause i love eat and a meal isnt a meal without meat.....i dont skip a day without.....global warming is a hoax anyways

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posted by Site FriendSupermanimmortal (2010-03-20 22:22:58)
Big_A_Little_A avatar@ moontan,your right about the food being full of chemicals and crap,but thats only if your not careful and buy all the processed crap.luckily I can grow my own and live near really good local suppliers that grow great stuff,its just case of reading the labels and knowing whats what.even then I would rather eat that then eat meat that has been pumped full of antibiotics,water,growth hormones and other tasty chemicals
As for the avatar,took me ages to find it,and have stupidly deleted it so on the hunt for it again.

as for job losses as taker points out,they could all come and work on ET! LOL

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posted by (2010-03-20 22:24:17)
jenga122 avatar@uncle_ALF_and_auntie_social, vegans are much more than what you say in your post. They don't use any animal for anything. Veganism is a diet and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose. I think you are confusing Vegetarians with Vegans. Not a big deal but facts are facts.

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posted by Site FriendSupermanimmortal (2010-03-20 22:49:40)
Big_A_Little_A avatar@jenga122 wasn't confusing veggies with vegans,was just talking about eating habits not lifestyles

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posted by Site FriendSupermanimmortal (2010-03-20 22:59:12)
Big_A_Little_A avatar@jenga122 again.
sorry to say but humans are not carnivores,we are herbivores,not a big deal but facts are facts.

Meat-eaters(carnivores): have claws
Herbivores: no claws
Humans: no claws

Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue
Herbivores: perspire through skin pores
Humans: perspire through skin pores

Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding

Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.

Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater

Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits

Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

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posted by (2010-03-20 23:21:05)
terrillcase30655 avataranyways heh I am a meat eater and will not change....... Not big on the veggies but give me a nice juicy steak or burger and some chicken!!!

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posted by (2010-03-20 23:29:32)
kingtiger01 avatari was on a vegan diet for ahwhile, i can say personally half of the stuff they make doesnt taste half bad.

With that in mind, this probably will too, remember, the best stake, Fried to a brick. will STILL taste like crap, in the right hands, even the worst crap can taste like a 5-Star meal.

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posted by (2010-03-20 23:42:59)
steveo1 avatareach 2 their own, imo top of the food chain,circle of life etc,etc,etc ps i,ll eat a pigs ass if u cook it right!!lmfao!! cheers 4 tha read

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posted by (2010-03-21 00:03:47)
terrillcase30655 avatarAnd its supply and demand also.....Most meat eaters will not want artificial meat so animals will still be our food .......I know I want the real deal.....if it doesnt bleed its not food

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posted by ET junkieET lovermen (2010-03-21 00:37:42)
Bong avatarSoylent Green we are out of Soylent Green please return to your homes the scoops are on the way!

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posted by (2010-03-21 00:45:08)
Pl4sm0 avatarTnx for sharing this info,....I was reading all the comments and it was like
reading a war between vegetarians and ppls who eat meat.
Now the problem on my opinion is not that our cows and pigs pollutes more
than all the world's cars, planes and ships combined,because to grow
vegetable and to harvest it also pollutes,and some fish populations are
going down so fast that around 2048 they will be extinguished ( see movie
End of Line ), the problem is another....WE ARE and WE ARE GROWING out of
control ( Humans been), WE ARE sucking all the heart resources too fast
lately and soon we will run out and then ? Is the end of life. Few solutions
can save us on my opinion , start using green and alternative energy and
birth's control to radically and extremely lower the population number.
I know that now many peoples will shout against me ......but do you have
other solutions ? If so....please let me know.....cuz we are running out of
time and out of life.

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posted by (2010-03-21 01:21:03)
terrillcase30655 avatarI dont believe that..... I dont believe we are bout to the end of days..... As more people are born so are farmers and everything keeping up with the food demand and I dont see us losing power or anything like that....And I have heard from the internet and video documentaries that global warming isnt even happening. I know Gore and some movies and such talk about global warming as well as end of days in 2012 but lets get real..... No one can predict anything like when will it end and I dont believe we are among the end by any means.....and heck we only have one energy source anyways right now and thats through our power company

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posted by (2010-03-21 01:41:24)
No avatarto put it simply hardcore veggies are always going to look pasty and unhealthy while all hardcore meat eaters are going to also be obese and pasty, the key to everything is a balanced diet of both, personally i think anything that is designed to "replace" foods we already eat is dodgy ground and quite frankly if what we are talking about is essentially eating tumours :( well i d stick to cows and pigs anyday of the weeks. the only solution to our over consumption of resources is population control and more education about contraception and we might just not breed ourself into non existence and not need all these dodgy genetic experiments to solve things.

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posted by (2010-03-21 02:31:45)
Bylbow avatarI only eat Human Flesh! lol
Stop Eating Fish. Here"s why >>> http://extratorrent.com/torrent/2196992/The+End+Of+The+Line.html

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posted by (2010-03-21 02:33:05)
Bylbow avatar@ Bong So True !

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posted by (2010-03-21 05:42:52)
terrillcase30655 avatarI dont know if i believe it seafood has been eaten for milions of year and yet we still have plenty of it out there and then some.

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posted by (2010-03-21 06:10:59)
boatee avatari eated a vegymaterian once she tasted fishy?

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-21 07:11:50)
No avatarwell about meat ect i can only speak for meself i check watch and know what i put on my mouth i demant to watch the cutting ect i know it pissed them off and ofc i make everything meself so i know what i put in my mouth but ok no meat less CO2 fine but get other lightbolt = same so ppl seems to forget its not only meat its oil its cars ect

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posted by (2010-03-21 07:20:11)
4JIMi2sTEXAS0 avatarhmmm, how bout that huh

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posted by (2010-03-21 07:24:22)
terrillcase30655 avataryes its meat cars power etc but we cant live without any of it.....

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posted by (2010-03-21 07:29:38)
BenjaWiz avatarlivestock will be my main source or nothing at all.

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posted by (2010-03-21 07:32:27)
KING2ALL avatarJust because we are able to do something does not mean we should do it. EXAMPLE... I can ride a hot chick longer than a cowboy could ride a horse. But I would never ride a cowboy or a horse. Lets keep it real. Walk a cow by a match and lets have lunch. Long Live ET.........

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posted by (2010-03-21 08:21:55)
terrillcase30655 avatarROFL heheh no doubt......I dont discriminate against vegetarians but its not for me nor do I wanna consume fake meat.....They were put on this planet to eat .... I eat some vegetables as sides but thats it ..... A meal isnt a meal without some nice meat with it!!

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posted by (2010-03-21 09:50:15)
Pl4sm0 avatar@jeesper1982 : my point about end of days is not that I believe in 2012 the world will end,but that we are too many and the number of the human population is growing out of control, and more we are , more we are using heart resources,and soon or later these resources will end if we don't start using alternative energy resources ( sun light , wind , and a new energy resource which is created by sea waves ). Two years ago I installed in my house solar panels and I finished to paid this year and now I don't have to pay bills for electricity , so I save money and one my little way I would say....I save the world :P About pollution, every one have his own ideas, what I believe is that climate changes have always existed,what is happening now is that because of pollution we are accelerating this process ....and very fast because we are too many and we are using "dirty energy", that's why I believe the only action which would help our planet to breed again is birth and population control,what I decided to do with my future wife is to adopt an orphan...maybe is sound stupid but this is my way to help my planet.

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posted by (2010-03-21 10:44:23)
terrillcase30655 avatarI rather have my own child...... not into adoption but the free power sounds good

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posted by men (2010-03-21 13:18:40)
irishheat avatarThe real scientific deal behind 2012 is that we are going to have a complete planetary alignment. One which we haven't had in the last 25,600 years. Almost 26,000 thousand years ago, the equator ran through Alaska. All of the planets aligned and caused such a strong gravitational pull that the mantle of the Earth shifted. Now scientists agree this will happen in 2012. The only problem is...they dont know if it will happen quickly or through a slow process. If it is a slow process,we will experience severe changes in whether,(obviously). Now if it happens quickly...well....scientist predict we will lose one third of the planets population. Unthinkable earthquakes,record breaking tsunamis and overall devistation.

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posted by (2010-03-21 14:18:24)
Stayingtrue avatarNo,No,No to meat paste, fake meat, and yes to a red bloody cut of prime rib, but hey to each his own. Thanks for the article.

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-21 14:21:28)
godchaser avatarI am a carnivore plain and simple. So I don't have claws, which is supposedly the determining factor. That's what humans have evolved into carnivores without claws. It's a societal advancement. I am not an herbivore, I like herbs on my meat and I love my meat! If it's beef I like it rare, if it's kangaroo I like it lean, pork yummy, lamb excellent, crocodile, emu, chicken ..I love it all. Hell I've had Yak and Monkey to I like it all no problems! My mother-in-law raises it all and believe me she feeds those animals well and 100% natural to no chemicals! We split the butcher costs and stack two freezers full of beef, pork and lamb in every cut imaginable!

NO ARTIFICIAL MEAT PASTE FOR ME! NO GENETICALLY MODIFIED CANCEROUS TUMORS FOR THIS CARNIVORE!Thanks for the read Taker!

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posted by (2010-03-21 18:37:00)
Pl4sm0 avatar@hirisheat : i knew that already .....but u gave a really clear nice explanation ;)

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posted by (2010-03-21 19:10:13)
No avatarSorry uncle ALF and auntie but by biological and physiological definition and distinction we are OMNIVORES, having both molars and canine dentition.Essentially we were and are opportunists,survival being based upon a simple yet highly effective equation of calories expended verses calories gained. Animal protein as well as easily harvested shell fish, mussels etc are by far the highest caloric food sources available to early man.Recent studies also show a direct pleasure response in the brain of ALL humans when ingesting high fat food sources such as bacon, juicy burgers, butter and cream not to mention the overwhelming evidence of massive piles of discarded shell fish and cracked marrow bones found at hundreds of prehistoric sites.In the case of shell fish and there high iodine content a direct correlation has been made showing it to be essential to higher brain function and development.Regardless, might I suggest a viewing of a recent DL available on EZTV titled "Did cooking make us human" as it may offer food for thought.In regards to FACTS a more accurate definition as given by the sciences is a "Point we all agree upon until proven otherwise" Thanks "taker" an interesting and thought provoking post.

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posted by (2010-03-21 19:21:37)
No avatarBetter yet,[what was I thinking] run a search for " Did cooking make us human " on ET, the one and only site by popular choice.

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posted by ET junkiemen (2010-03-21 19:24:11)
milo33 avatarJEEZ !! All this talk is makin` me hungry,
Gimme that carrot !!!

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posted by (2010-03-21 21:38:32)
Tycus avatarIt's called being an omnivore (omnivorous) people,christ! Am I the only one who was awake for grade 4 science ?

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posted by (2010-03-21 21:47:33)
No avatarAny way you cut it there's plenty of room for all God's creatures ...........right next to the mashed potatoes.

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posted by (2010-03-21 23:02:32)
hunhunter avatarthe americans are obese because of all the crap in meat anyway, the world would not go hungry if the americans shared but they greedy for thier meat

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-22 00:26:05)
phoenixcrash avatarMe American. Me hungry. Me eat red meat. It taste good. Enuff said.

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posted by Blocked (2010-03-22 00:29:09)
phoenixcrash avatarBesides, if we weren't meant to eat 'em, they would have thumbs!

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posted by (2010-03-22 02:40:33)
terrillcase30655 avatarheheh no doubt give me a big juicy steak anyday!!! You can keep the carrots :>

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posted by (2010-03-22 05:03:57)
No avatar@uncle.. Ever heard of an omnivores. Heres two omnivores as an example. Humans and bears. That's right bears are also omnivores. Please don't spew stupid crap. Theres nothing deep about herbivores, carnivores, or omnivores. It's a simple of matter does the animal eat meat, veges/fruits, or both.

As far as the article. If it taste like meat. I could really care less. And everything gives you cancer these days.

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posted by (2010-03-22 05:22:06)
terrillcase30655 avatarI dont want a product that tastes like meat I want actual meat......and whats up with the stupid omnivores and carnivoir debate.....who cares really heheh this isnt school.... The face is humans eat meat and this artificial meat crap is crazy nor do we really want this

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posted by (2010-03-22 06:10:50)
No avatarAnyway, if we stop eating meat and supposedly stop CO2 emission from the animals.. We will come to the same problem with simply having to produce even more vegetables to feed the word... I forgot the name of the show but saw a very nice program talking about this.

Anyway the earth is doom at the end....

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posted by (2010-03-22 08:58:52)
kingtiger01 avatari want to point my opinion at all these arguments...

1. Human population.

Yes, Humans do DOMINATE the population of the planet. This wouldn't be a Issue if we didn't rely on its other resources to survive. With that Said we forget, That we produce MUCH less than we did even 100 years ago. Take that and Combine it with the 3x of the amount of Products we consume, Most which are Non-Renewable!. Spells Disaster after awhile, this is not the 1500's, the Reality is we are slowly killing the planet around us, and each year WE are the ones worsening the effect in some cases doubling or Tripling it each year...

Solution: Simple, Conserve and re-use as much as possible. Wind, Water, Sun, Earth these are ALL renewable!, Especially Sun and Wind. Plant and eat more Crops, Crops only use Carbon-Dioxide and Water, While producing 2 Energy Resources, There Consuming Effects and Oxygen, Both which contribute to a Balanced Ecosystem.

Sun, it can Power Solar panels, Can Boil Water FASTER than any other known method and is 100% efficient. with the use of Wind as well, it makes a 70% efficient Energy Solution.

Water, it makes up the majority of are planet, and it IS the reason were alive, everything on this planet requires it to survive, while some live within its Boundary's, others Cant survive within it for long.

2. Fish

Fish USED to be the main source of food in Harbor cities. In the times of its Insurrection the population was low enough for this to be a Abundant resource, Fixed along with the Slow Methods of the time. It was a Balanced system...

NOW Places like Japan's Population is '128,000,000' That's over a third of its surrounding water's fish population, meaning if they were to fish out 3 meals worth for every person they would LITERALLY FISH IT TO EXTINCTION!. Reality is, a single Tuna fish can be distributed to a family of five for the MINIMUM of one meal, the average catch per-person is 8-10. that mixed with Rice-Growth is perfectly Stable...

But large-Scale fishing Operations bring in 1000-6000Lb/s of Fish PER HOUR!, this means you could feed 28-260 family's per hour...

Solution to fish extinction: Fish hatchery's and Increased Rice growth via Greenhouses and Underground-Rice Growth.

3. Cows, Chickens and Turkeys.

Cows, Chickens and Turkeys are the most COMMONLY consumed Meat (next to fish) that is Consumed in the World. All of these are LIVING CREATURES meaning they EAT, DRINK, BREATHE and LIVE in the same Environment as we do.

As it Stands Cattle in the United States ALONE consume more Grain than Humans Do, And Most of the Grain has to Be imported to Meet the Needs of Growth of these Animals...

Reality is, Life is poor for these Animals and they are the PRIMARY reason why a lot of are Ecosystem issues are out of Balance.

Over the last 200 years we have Switched from Agriculture as a primary food source to the Mass Slaughtering of meat as a primary Food source.

Meaning that 40% of Meat products go to waste.

While Eating Meat is not in any way Ill-Natural for humans, I myself just Ate Hamburgers Earlier and Can say i LOVE meat. It is at the Same time NOT a good permanent solution.

Livestock Meat, Can NOT be stored Effectively for Long periods of time without the Use of Salts and Refrigeration.

Both which require(For the most Part) Products in which will Eventually run out. Salts are a Naturally Occurring Element in are Ecosystem, but that does mean they have a Relative amount covering the Surface of are planet. THEY WILL EVENTUALLY RUN OUT.

Electricity, used for Refrigeration is non-Renewable(except for electricity for Renewable Resources) Most of the Electricity in the USA is from Coal and Nuclear Power. Both which are Non-Renewable and Toxic for are Ecosystem(HIGHLY TOXIC!!!)

Thus meaning, in order to Continue using Meat as a Consumption Resource, a BALANCE in Required. Something that's not Currently in Use.

4. Global Warming.

Reality is any way you want to point fingers it Exists.

The Facts are the Global Climate has Risen Every Year Slightly Since the Industrial Boom. and the Only thing other than Human Population that changed since then is the AMOUNT of Carbon Dioxide/Carbon-Monoxide We Pump into are Atmosphere.

The biggest thing we are Ignoring is that the people which are Arguing it 'Doesn't Exist' are the ones PUMPING IT INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AND MAKING MONEY FROM IT!

While yes, there's Been false data and Arguments presented, The reality is when things look grim you do what you have to, to try and fix the situation.

I don't see Governments Apologizing for Killing millions because they Would Change Religions during the Great Crusades. This is no different, in the Sense that Ignorance is no Excuse for Reality.

Science is the reason we have knowledge, It discovered the Wheel, It Designed the Electricity and It is the Very Reason we know the Side-Effects of every action. Including Pollution of Gases which Would ALONE Kill nearly ANY being on this Planet.

Now, Stop and think if i filled a 4'x4' Box and stuck you're Head in it. Filled it with Carbon-Dioxide and forced you to breathe it. IT WOULD KILL YOU, Can you Sit there and tell me it could not have ANY effect on the well-being of other parts of are planet? Remember are Atmosphere is made up of nothing But different Gasses put out by plants, animals and ARE actions. only so much Gasses can fit in a ball, the Plants we Cut down to Burn and Consume cant Change the CO2 back to Oxygen if its not there and we continue to Pump more and more into the ball...

What do you think will happen when you put a 1000lb weight on a teeter-totter and sit on the other side, you will lose... are ecosystem CANT keep up with the AMOUNT.

With Humans and Animals Breathing out CO2. Manufacturing and Other Industrial Production of CO2, What do you Expect to happen when there's not enough plants left to balance the Equation.

Eventual Catastrophic Failure. CO2 poisoning of plants and Animals could become a Very REAL threat some day, let ALONE the increase of Wind and Temperature created by the Gas.

Open up youre Eyes and Use the Brain in youre Head. you Dont need a Bunch of Bickering Payed Politicians to see the facts and put 2 and 2 together!!!!

Solution: Use 90% or more of Renewable Resources and PLANT 5-15x more than you TAKE. and Reduce the Removal of Wooded Areas. There is PLENTY of Alternatives, that are Cheap, Renewable and Stronger!

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Ultimately Don't HATE Food Paste, Eat it, Try it, Make it PART of you're Diet. BALANCE not DEVOUR. And if you Can ULTIMATELY just sit there and Say Ignorantly 'I wont Eat that' Without Reading MY ENTIRE POST in its ENTIRETY. Than i think you should be the next one in line at you're local Live-stock house, standing behind the next cattle, because you are not much better than that. TAKING EVERYTHING AND GIVING NOTHING BACK BUT HOT, STINKY AIR.

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posted by (2010-03-22 12:29:14)
Pl4sm0 avatar@kingtiger01 : damn dude.....nice and intelligent post ...really ....u deserve a nobel price :D

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posted by Kitty (2010-03-22 15:04:05)
Daewoo avatarLooks like everyone here is missing the point. It will be REAL meat, it is just grown in the lab, not around a living animal. It is not paste, it will be identical to animal meat. It is grown from stem cells which have the ability to become any part of a living being.

Do all the 'paste eaters' complain when they eat fruit and veg grown without soil or seeds? Ever heard of grafting? Thought not...

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posted by (2010-03-22 18:58:13)
djw63 avatarfirst they clone people now fake meat; why dont they just clone 100 million cows and hogs and end the freaking problem. its stupid we have starving kids all over the world aqnd these so called smart ass cloners and fake meat makers only care about making a mil

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posted by (2010-03-22 21:03:51)
kingtiger01 avatar@Deawoo: Yes, it is *Real* meat in the sense its a muscle Tissue grown in a pitri dish. The thing is, its only the reprocess rebuilding of the cells, and not the natural Muscle growth that exists in living animals. So calling it 100% real meat would be a lie, as its only a single cell or a small collection of living cells from the muscle of a living animal.
The rest is created by the Stem Cells them selves, Stem cells work by copying a Replicating the Dead cells or a Group of living cells in a Organism. Thus splitting and Copying, Thus mutating is own Genetic make-up. Basically like a Tumorous tissue... so its not far off Calling it a "Cancerous Tissue" But any way you look at it, it doesnt matter when its consumed.

@djw63: 1. To date, NOT a SINGLE human Being has been Cloned, the Cells of a Human have been Analyzed, and modified. But not a Single living Human Being has been Cloned.

2. Cloning a WHOLE Animal WILL NOT MAKE A SOLUTION. all you're DOING is Creating the Meat with all the Pollution. The same thing as Breeding Mass Amounts of them. The end Result is the Same!

3. "All the Starving Kids All over the World". 3 words for you. 'Corporate Markup Profit', Every Day there is enough meat Slaughtered in the USA to feed the ENTIRE POPULATION of the USA and Africa Combined. but over 70% of it Goes to Waste, Either due to the Slaughter House tossing the meat as it doesn't meet there 'in-house' Quality check(which the meat is perfectly good, except it would need much longer prep. time to soften the tissue)
OR
Due to Supermarket/Meat-Market's Tossing the goods out because they have been sitting on a shelf for more than 6.5 days. That meat can be frozen and stored for a Addition 3-6 months at this point, Not to mention Preserved in Salt-Brine and Stored for 8-12 months.

This is not even the most important part of the Story!, You also forgetting all the Open Area not used in farming that COULD be used, to grow things like Corn, Green-beans(Peas), Celery and Even grapes. All of this could Contribute to the amount of Food being added into the Diets of the world...

But, Financially no one wants to because it would be Financial Suicide with Big Corporations Controlling ALL of the Food Production.

Par that with the Fact not a Single Government that there People are starving in WANTS help. the UN and the US has to FORCE them to accept help. And when they do get it, Guerrilla Soldiers, Local Militia and The Gov. it self Takes it all before it reaches the people.

How many people do you see going out of there way to Insure these people get this food!, Everyone's too worried about Fighting over Territory and there Religious Views. There Right to Destroy and Conquer. Then when all that is Done How much money they Can make off from it All.

Face it, The world is Corrupt, We as a People put are Trust in the Weak minded and Weak Willed and we got exactly that, Weak enforcement of law and justice.

4. 'These So called Smart ass Cloners and Fake meat makers, Only care about Making a Mil'. Not Exactly True. The Scientist only care about 2 things, 1. Proving them selves and theres Scientific Minds and 2. Helping people with there Science.

THE COMPANY'S THEY WORK FOR ONLY CARE ABOUT THE PROFIT THEY CAN GAIN FROM THERE SCIENCE. The sad part is, without them though there would be no Research into it. Because all that equipment costs money, money that no Scientist posses without doing the Same thing the Company these Scientist are Doing.

Greed fuels Greed, and more Greed and More greed. Untill all thats left is a World of Greed and Starving.

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posted by (2010-03-22 21:08:53)
djw63 avatarthanks kingtiger01 for your insight. you seam to have a lot of it but verry good i agree

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posted by (2010-03-22 21:17:34)
kingtiger01 avatarI should note EVERY REAL SCIENTIST Took a Oath to Use Science to Help and insure the Well Being of Man-Kind. So to blandish them for making a Solution that seems like a productive Non-polluting Solution to food-shortage and over-Pollution. and then yell at then for ACTUALLY doing it, its Blaspheme.

Remember, Just because its NOT cut out of a Cow Doesnt mean its not meat. Stop Thinking About 300 year old Ingnorance and take a look around you, The Greatest minds of there time have done some of the Greatest things. Not everything was Sucessful, But they All Set out to Create a Solution to a problem, and in one way or Another Suceeded.

Thomas Edison was Chastised for his idea's on Electricity's Uses and the Light Bulb.
We WOULD be still burning Candles and relying on Paper for EVERYTHING. We would not have Modern Mechanics and WOULD HAVE NEVER INVENTED TV, Computers, and RADIO's if it wasnt for a Group of People Saying "Yea its unatural for the Day, Yea people wont Accept it at first. But once they open there minds and there hearts. They will see The Bright Light's of Electricity opening there mind"

This is the Same Sense, its meat, but its not cut from the Animal. You have a DIFFERENT solution, without all the Suffering, Pollution and Risk. and to sit there with a Closed Mind and say "I Wont Eat IT!" before even Trying it, Is pure and Utter Ignorance.

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posted by (2010-03-23 00:34:59)
xxVOIDxSURFERxx avatarok ok...Check this out. If we did not kill and eat cattle, sheep, chicken, etc. we would be over run by these creatures as is the same for most species.Look at the deer, yes harmless little babie would be a nightmare situation in less the 20 yrs if there was no more hunting. In Florida they have a lottery to hunt alligator so they don't start finding swimming pools as a new home. Ducks are the same. What do you suppose we do? Kill but not eat them, sorry that's just a waste.

Agree though on the point of over population, ways to help fix this. Only allow two or more story buildings that are duplexes or triplexes( meaning they are 2 to 3 homes per lot. On the roof have your own veggie garden for the side dish to the ever so tasty pork, beef, chicken, and fish main. Second you are also right about adoption...more people need to adopt, nothing wrong with that. They should however put a limit on benefits to more then 2 children and upon the third child....start taxing that @ss. Be real people, who needs 3 or more kids?

As for the fake meat...I'll stick to the real deal even though it to is geneticaly altered to be nothing our great grandfathers ate and prolly does cause alot of health issues we see today with all the steroids and what not they pump into our food these days. Thats just another reason I love to go fishing and hunting while I grow my own veggies. Besides I get more gas myself eating soy and all the fake stuff, esentialy replacing the cows gas. So unless you vegetarians can eat stuff that does'nt give you gas all the time..stfu and let me enjoy my meat! =)

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posted by (2010-03-23 00:42:50)
xxVOIDxSURFERxx avatarTrue though on the market tossing out perfectly good meat...Example: If you watch Deadliest Catch they will tell the harbor will turn down crabs that have alot of barnacles on them....they do nothing to hurt the meat of the crab, just a waste.

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posted by (2010-03-23 01:03:43)
xxVOIDxSURFERxx avatarThey have also engineered E.Coli is being used to create a hydrogen and diesel based fuel. I know, I know, it still creates emissions. But it is a step towards renewable energy. We can never be without oil for the simple fact everything you touch on a day to day basis was made from oil. All plastics and rubbers use large amounts of oil. Your tires use anywhere from 33 to 66 gallons of oil to make, even on electric cars. Think of the dashboards and wire covers too. Sorry but your pollution free world will never exists now.

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posted by (2010-03-23 02:09:57)
GGTBod avatarI love eating meat, I find it is the perfect accompanying dish for any vegetarian meal. I have eaten giraffe, kangaroo, insect, buffallo, wild boar, crocodile and alligator as well as all the normal cattle and poultry but when it comes to artificial meat I think id rather eat another person

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posted by (2010-03-23 04:42:57)
kingtiger01 avatar@xxVOIDxSURFERxx:

1."They have also engineered E.Coli is being used to create a hydrogen and diesel":
I hadn't heard they had done so, Although, about the two Chemicals...

as long as Diesel and other Fossil based Fuels are used, it will Continue to add to the Growing Amounts of Co2 that cannot be removed from are air due to the lack of Living and Artificial filters.

Hydrogen is Good though! hydrogen when compressed(like Diesel fuel) only separates into Water and Oxygen.(or under rare situations it will pickup more air and Create Helium).. Anyways, But regardless Hydrogen makes up the majority of are Atmosphere, we breathe in more of that than Oxygen!(in higher Altitudes). Ideally, to Siphon that out of the Atmosphere at high-altitudes would be the BEST Automobile Solution. Providing near-Gasoline/Diesel Performance.

2."But it is a step towards renewable energy":
Renewable Energy means a SOLUTION that creates a Renewing Product without a Renewing Side-effect.

Yes, the Product "Diesel and Hydrogen" is Being 'Renewed' by creation of it, But its senseless as Diesel is a VERY dirty By-product of oil. At any rate when burned it creates Co2 & other Poisonous Gasses(I dont claim to be a expert on it but there are more than 8 other Compounds from the Periodic Table. all which combat H1 and O2)

3."We can never be without oil for the simple fact everything you touch on a day to day basis was made from oil" Yes we can, Oils were not used for anything but Fire and Heat Before the Discovery of distillation of oil to Separate the Hydrocarbons.

Diesel, Gasoline, Kerosene, Lubricating oil, Fuel oil, 'Ligroin'(used to make Gasoline) and Residual leftovers

With that came Kerosene Heaters, Diesel Engine and Gasoline Engine(both which use Lubrication Oil), along with Diesel Generators for Electricity.

At any Rate, All of this CAN be replaced by Electricity.

Electric Heaters which can RIVAL Kerosene and Natural gas for Heat, and are more Controllable as nothing is Burning.

Electric Engines that cant put out AS MUCH horsepower as a Gasoline Engine.

These can all use Truthfully Renewable Energy, without the Pollution Effects of its 'Predecessors'.

4."All plastics and rubbers use large amounts of oil"
Good point, then its time to start Researching Alternatives. And there already are doing so.

As a MIT 2006 Graduate, i CAN assure you there is OTHER ways to produce plastic using Hydrogen(and other products in which i cannot Legally Discuss).

Rubber is a Polymer, there's 3 Different types of Rubber. I don't know a Whole lot about them but i do know that Synthetic rubber along with Natural rubber from the Para rubber tree, can be used to make most of the Most common uses for Rubber in this day and age...

Like Tires, Rubber Stamps, Rubber Bands and Rubber Shoe Soles.

Why are these not used... While there Relatively easy to mold the compounds to these Situation it require a few hours longer per day to prep the materials, AS WELL as most of the Rubber Manufacturing Company's through out the World are either Funded, Owned or have Stock/Bonds in Oil Research and Refining Company's...

Meaning Basically, it Boils back down to the Oil Company's Bottom Profit Margin...

5."Think of the dashboards and wire covers too" Wood and Plastic are Viable options for Dashboards, and Plastic is already used as Wire covers, While Synthetic and Natural rubber as written up there^ can be used as well.

6. "Sorry but your pollution free world will never exists now.": Youre Right, and with that ATTITUDE it never Could Exist...

in the 1700's They said that a Free trading world in which everyone Could sit down at one Table argue out there Differences without Sword, Spear, or Powder Could NEVER exist as man is only meant for WAR.

in 1936, England Was VERY near being a German Occupied Territory, Do you See them Giving up when they Were near Hopelessness.

Saying something is impossible while watching it happen in front of you're Face is Just IGNORANT...

Its the EXACT Reason were in this Situation, if we would of looked at the Effects of CO2 on large Scale in 1950 we WOULD of been able to Reduce or Eliminate most of the worlds CO2, as Solar panels, and the Micro-Processor was already becoming a Reality.

But as usual, As a Species we tend to Ignore things with the outlook 'It wont happen to me or Us" we Assume that life can Continue to go on Unaffected no matter what we do.

SO yeah, nothing will Ever happen. The Earth will heat up 2.5 degrees every year untill the Average Day Time Temperature is over 160*F at the Equator, The Earth is Partially if not 89% covered in Water and the majority of living Species are Dead on this planet as they Cannot Survive the heat.

Then all of the Volcanoes on the Planet will Begin to Erupt Due to the Increase of Core Temperature Quadrupling the production and the Activity of lava in the earth's Core.

Covering the Earth's Skies and Atmosphere in Volcanic Ash, making the Air Un-breathable except for humans using Filtration Masks. Then the Air will begin to cool till the Average Day time temperature is -60*F, Forcing humans to Live underground to Survive...

Yea, thats the Future you Predict with that Outlook...

Now... Lets Consider for a Moment, you Have a Positive Attitude, and Say "We WILL find a Way to Create a Pollution Free World NOW, and i will Do my Part to help" and that will be another 3% less CO2 per Day!

Remember, you Cannot do ANYTHING with a WEAK outlook and a WEAK Attitude.

7. "Example: If you watch Deadliest Catch they will tell the harbor will turn down crabs that have alot of barnacles on them....they do nothing to hurt the meat of the crab, just a waste":
I 100% Agree, and its BS!!!!

Theres no Reason for them to Do this Except for Profit Margins... Remember, you can Call/Email/Write and Complain to Fix this.

8."If we did not kill and eat cattle, sheep, chicken, etc. we would be over run by these creatures as is the same for most species":

BS!!! BS!!! BS!!!!, these Are ANIMALS that existed for 600 million years before Human Intervention & Slaughter Houses Started Breeding them in the 100,000's for Meat and Milk Production...

If ANYTHING we have Created a Overpopulation of them. If the Slaughter houses Lost control Due to a Natural Disaster and these Animals were Set free. We would Be Over-ran by them with out Question. Naturally in the Days of Farming and Hunting this wouldn't of happened as the Natural Life span and Breeding Potential Vs. Natural Prey Prevents this.

This outlook is Plain and Simple IGNORANT. If youre So worried, Go find Roaming Cattle and Take them and farm them. Good luck, The very few that exist in the USA let alone the Rest of the world..

As far as Chickens, Sheep, Turkeys and other mid to small game, they were BRED in large numbers in the 1500-1700's for Consumption. They naturally wont breed to Over Population due to Wolf, and other Predators.

As far a Deer, THERE POPULATION HAS NOT RISEN TO RATES PRIOR TO 1903 TO DATE... Just because there population is higher than you Remember it, doesn't mean its there natural or normal population...

How would you feel to be Hunted in the 100's of thousands Just because you're Encroaching on some ones property. Remember the VERY place in which you live, we Originally DIDN'T live there.

We as a Species Breed and Breed and Breed, Until we consume Every Resource in one Area and then move to the next until there is nothing left.

Because of are Ingenuity we have NO natural Predator, we don't need claws to set traps, to kill with guns, Spears, Swords. To hunt them when they don't expect it from trees above.

So to say "we Need to Kill them" is a Blatant lie, We DON'T need to kill them. We do need food, But we are NOT barbarians, there's more than one Way to get that meat now!

Artificial Meat!

9."In Florida they have a lottery to hunt alligator so they don't start finding swimming pools as a new home. Ducks are the same. What do you suppose we do? Kill but not eat them, sorry that's just a waste.":

I LIVED IN Saint Petersburg, FL. ALLIGATORS WENT INTO PEOPLES PROPERTY LOOKING FOR FOOD AND BECAUSE THERE WETLANDS WERE DESTROYED...

Now, i don't recall you mentioning that up there. Want to keep them out of you're Yard without Killing them and wasting the meat...

Donate to a Wetland Society to protect those Wetlands and Give them a Home, or how would you like for me to Come down to you're Place FLATTEN all of what you Own with a Bulldozer and Build a Parking lot.

Then tell you To deal with it and Go live under a tree till you die of Starvation!
Without the trade skills you have learned in life, Science and you're Intelligence to kill that Animal you WOULD of never survived.

Its not there Fault they Cannot Build a Hut, Talk A Native Human Language, Work in a human Working Field and Survive.

So Dont Complain when they Do what 10,000 years of Instincts tell them to Do. SEARCH FOR A HOME AND A FOOD SOURCE!. Remember, to them We are Just Lean Cattle! were Still Animals any way you want to look at it.

"Ducks":

Yes, there is a Natural wild Foul. Hunting them is Perfectly Fine, Just like Deer and other Animals. Not only to eat, and Survive but to control there Population. They have Fewer Natural Predators, due to there Nature. They Fly and live on Bodies of Water.

Limiting them to a fewer array of Predators, unlike Deer and other Land Based Animals.

I agree, Hunt them. But keep in Mind while you Do, ONLY TAKE WHAT YOU NEED, NEVER AS MUCH AS YOU WANT!. Look at the Buffalo, thats what happens when you do!

10."Agree though on the point of over population, ways to help fix this. Only allow two or more story buildings that are duplexes or triplexes( meaning they are 2 to 3 homes per lot. On the roof have your own veggie garden for the side dish to the ever so tasty pork, beef, chicken, and fish main. Second you are also right about adoption...more people need to adopt, nothing wrong with that. They should however put a limit on benefits to more then 2 children and upon the third child....start taxing that ***. Be real people, who needs 3 or more kids? "

For the Most part i Agree! that's a Great Outlook!.

As far as Building for homes, there's nothing wrong with Tall or Big buildings for homes. Matter of Fact there should Be less Single Family Property's as they Take up WAAAY too much wasted space. but if that's the case its better to focus on Population than Property Space.

"On the roof have your own veggie garden": PERFECT idea, at my Previous home i had Clear Solar Panels that would Absorb 50% of the Energy and Allow the rest to pass Through to a Semi-large Greenhouse. on Each edge of the Roof i had a Wind-Generator that used Vertical Wind Energy rather than Horizontal, Creating more Energy utilizing LESS space.

This Powered all the Electric Devices in my home including The electric Ranges that i cooked my Tasty Veggies and Stew. Not to mention my Hamburgers with Home made Fries and Onions/Peppers!.

Its a Complete Utilization of all that's Available to you!.

"Second you are also right about adoption...more people need to adopt, nothing wrong with that."

I agree, while i believe you Should Pass on you're Gene's to Contribute you're Family's Individual Traits. I ALSO believe you Should Adopt, there is WAAAAY too many people without homes that Could Be tomorrows Einstein or George Washington.

"They should however put a limit on benefits to more then 2 children":

I agree and Disagree, it Really Depends on the Family and the Persons. Theres NO reason for a Unemployed family, With no Trade Skills or Will to get a job, to have 3 Children, They shouldnt even have 1!

If you DO NOT want to Earn the right to give to life, then you Should not have the Right to Raise a Child.

"upon the third child....start taxing that ***. Be real people, who needs 3 or more kids?":

Depends on the Family, theres Plenty of Farming and Trade Family's that Still Exist!.
A family in Which a Large farm is owned 3 or more Children can Contribute to the production of Milk, and Other Consumables.

A family of trade workers, For instance Specializing in Astronautics. Each Child could Be trained in the Skills, Requiring no College Training prior, to going to College. So they Eventually could Contribute to the Field.

Same goes for other Rare skills like Metal Smithing. I myself am VERY Fond of Sword Making, its a Rare Skill in the Modern Age of Machinery and Electronics.

While i may Be Qualified as a Electronic Engineer, i Hold The arts of Swords and other Metallurgy of the Past as fine art. A family of Five Children each Training to Continue this Trade after the Life of the parents is passed, Would be VALUABLE to the Days of the Future, theres no reason for them to be Taxed just because they want to Insure a Rare Trade will be passed on for Future Generations to love and Enjoy as much as they do.

ON THE OTHER HAND! a Family of 3, making 300,000 a Year, that Keeps Adopting for no 'Real' Reason Needs to be Taxed, its just a Waste. Same goes for Familys that keep having Child After Child after Child, just because they want to.


11."As for the fake meat...I'll stick to the real deal even though it to is geneticaly altered to be nothing our great grandfathers ate and prolly does cause alot of health issues we see today with all the steroids and what not they pump into our food these days.":

Technically Calling it "Fake" meat is a Lie, its not "Fake" its real Meat, just Grown outside of a Body. Matter of Fact, it would Probably Taste a Hell of alot better as it would not have the Stress that a Body would cause, the Stem cells wouldnt be limited to the Tendens, and ultimately you wouldnt need any type of Chemical Treatment to increase Growth.

not to mention 100% Lean as its not GROWN VIA FAT GROWTH!!!!

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Yea, That stuff we see at the Supermarket. its Called 'Meat' but its about as Much Meat as calling Soyburger a Hamburger.

Its Been Genetically Altered in every Way to increase its growth, Decrease its Fat.
Female Cows Spend every Day of there Mature Lives Pregnant, Either via Hormones or via Real Pregnancy Just for Milk, then there Slaughtered for there Meat.

Its hard to call Something that has been formed to be fast growing, and Genetically Perfect. Meat.

That stuff is more Cancerous Tissue than Artificial Meat!!!!!

12. "Thats just another reason I love to go fishing and hunting while I grow my own veggies. Besides I get more gas myself eating soy and all the fake stuff, essentially replacing the cows gas. So unless you vegetarians can eat stuff that does'nt give you gas all the time..stfu and let me enjoy my meat! =)":

Nothing wrong with Fishing, Hunting and Growing Crops. Its a perfect and Natural balance, but make sure you Abide to the one rule. Take no more than you need, not as much as you want.

"Besides I get more gas myself eating soy and all the fake stuff": Flatulence and Gas production is caused by In balances in Stomach and intestinal fluid(along with other Causes). Believe it or not, its actually not 100% natural, and there's Plenty of ways to prevent it.

I like Soy beans, but i hate them at the same time. They taste good when prepared right, and there the healthiest thing on the planet next to Seaweed!

But, there also at the same time not the greatest tasting thing if eaten Constantly and All Vegetables and Meats CAN produce the same Group of Chemicals (nitrogen, carbon dioxide, oxygen, methane, and hydrogen sulfide) in the Stomach and Intestines.

Simple reality, it happens. The best thing to do is Control it, i personally Cant eat too much Bread products. Its part of life, you learn to ADAPT.


"So unless you vegetarians can eat stuff that doesn't give you gas all the time..stfu and let me enjoy my meat! =)":

Do you Think Vegetarians hate people cause they eat meat? i don't see them Protesting outside peoples homes cause there Siting down to a Big T-Bone instead of a Bowl of Broccoli. To Each there Own. As stated ^up there^ Flatulence is Controllable.

As far as youre Love for meat, GO FOR IT. Eat it, just dont eat it so much that those Giant Los-Angles Sized Slaughter houses Make a Bundle off youre Misfortune.

Hunt, Fish, and Buy from Small Farms. Insure the Well Being of a balanced System for those COMPANY'S that are doing it all for the Profit, think twice.

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posted by (2010-03-23 07:12:47)
terrillcase30655 avatarI like the meat we have now....I dont want artificial and am not concerned about the animal suffering....thats what they are here for whether it be grilled,fried or baked .... I want real meat from animals!!

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posted by (2010-03-23 08:54:19)
kingtiger01 avatar@terrillcase30655: "am not concerned about the animal suffering....thats what they are here for whether it be grilled,fried or baked"

Ok, ill be sure to remember that. Now, how do you like it, Starting with the white meat? My nihontō(日本刀) should be pretty good at cutting the meat away from the bone. Just remember, Dont move much. The more you move the longer it takes, and less Clean the Cut.

Makes it more Difficult to bake or Fry later... And since you dont care about animal Suffering, ill hold off on any pain medication. What you afraid of a little pain?

DONT FORGET YOU !!!ARE!!! A ANIMAL, the only difference is youre brain was able to pickup all the information around you. And if it wasnt for other Homo Sapient(Human Kind) You Wouldnt even know how to walk, Talk, Eat or Even Hunt... You would be a sitting Gob of Flesh and Meat.

Food for some other animal. Difference is they Only hunt when there hungry, but maybe i should go buy a lion. Starve it for a month and let it in youre home.

And since youre Here for being just meat, Cause youre a Animal. I wont say a thing or Do a Thing as it cuts you open and Eats you alive...

Ignorance is just That, Ignorance.

And By the way, Read the Damn Article "Artificial Meat" IS real meat, im pretty sure it Comes from Animals and Not from Imaginary Friends of Scientist.

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posted by (2010-03-23 16:19:57)
geology_guy avatarCongrats people you have turned this into pure mind numbing drivel.

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posted by (2010-03-25 02:57:40)
terrillcase30655 avatarthings are fine the way they are now....scientists need to focus on important stuff



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