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While widespread homophobia affects Russian offline and online communities, government does nothing to stop it. VKontakte (InTouch) is the 8th biggest social networking website in the world, accounting for more than 239 million users and 55 million active daily. Today the social network hosts videos of rapes, threats to kill, and the humiliation of LGBT people.
While the world’s attention is focused on the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, hundreds LGBT Russian citizens are being persecuted and attacked – this is a result of plots formed on the Internet by homophobic groups buoyed up by Putin’s anti-gay propaganda legislation.
For example, “Occupy Pedophilia” is one of the leading groups having a prominent presence on VKontakte, with over 90,000 followers, and there are other local factions pulling in more supporters. Recently the extent of the violence faced by the LGBT community was exposed to the world. “Occupy Pedophilia” uses the website to get in touch with gay men, pretending potential love interests, just to lure them into situations where they will be attacked – a process they refer to as “safaris” using “bait”.
The videos showing victims being violently attacked and humiliated are regularly uploaded to the website – they are easily available to view, “liked”, passed around, and shared on VKontakte, seemingly without impediment.
Despite the group claiming they aren’t neo-Nazis, but are just upholding a moral obligation to rid their country of pedophiles (whom they for some reason conflate with homosexuals), the VK community is littered with Nazi insignia.
VKontakte, in response, pledged to delete the abusing content and block and delete communities calling to violence or illegal actions against people. The operators of the social network pointed out that they are the only Russian social network which allows its users to select a same-sex person when specifying their relationship status.
In the meantime, VKontakte isn’t the only social network website on which Occupy Pedophilia is operating. For instance, YouTube returns more than 23,000 search results for the group, and hate propaganda from Russian fascist groups is tweeted very often. In addition, LGTB people are often persecuted under Putin’s new gay propaganda laws.
The Guardian newspaper, which featured an article on the issue, revealed that despite VKontakte pledging to remove the violent content and delete the relevant accounts, it took its operators 5 days to remove only one video, turning a blind eye to the thousands of videos still hosted on the service.
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Monday, February 24th, 2014
|A thought provoking article about Russians who fought against fascism in WW2 and showing how the masses are stirred into action by such propaganda.|
Whilst not endorsing homosexuality as it is perverse and unnatural I believe we all have a right to a life and to live and let live as we all see fit as long as it is not to the detriment of others and for the government to perpetuate such hate crimes and fascism will ultimately lead to its demise since such blatant neo-nazi measures go to show that Russia is not anymore an enlightened country than Korea or the England of the 1950`s with gay bashing.
|hmm, true enough I guess, though I try to go through life treating peeps how I expect them to treat me.|
Life... Its a funny old world
|Who ever thinks there is this thing of a so called 'God given Right to <insert PC term here>' is really out of touch with the reality of how things in this Universe really work and brain washed by some propaganda that some fools fed into your minds.|
Get this - there is no such thing as a God-given, Divine,Spiritual,Enlighted or any other metaphysical right to or for anything...
Anything you think of as such is a MAN MADE idea turned into some Governments/Groups/Minorities/etc. agenda. There are no Rights other than the ones given to you by a select group of people who have been given power OVER you by YOU. There are no real Laws except the immutable Laws of the Universe (Physics,Mathematics and Nature).
Tolerating Men buttpumping Men, Women munching other Women, Men being Women or Women being Men does not make you 'Enlightened'.It makes you a byproduct of someones agenda,whether Political or Environmental, and you lose your own 'voice' in the shouting of those promoting an unnatural lifestyle.
Take a good look around you,dudes, these are the darkest days for being a straight,white,single/married,Christian male. We are being attacked from all sides - and most dont even see it because it doesnt LOOK like attacks,but see whats 'between the lines' - in TV/Movies promoting LGBTs,race mixing,losing your own history to give other races months off your calendars,so-called 'Pride' parades,monuments, passing laws to have you think 'all people are equal' - that in itself is complete BS - no one is equal to anyone else. You are either better or they are better than you. It could be for one thing or many things- but people are not equal,not even in the eyes of whomever is your God.
The Times, as they say,change...and this to shall pass, but looks like its gonna be a bloody struggle and its gonna get worse. Mark my words.
|posted by (2014-02-24 05:00:38)|
As I always say..."A people of sheep....Begets a government of wolves"!!! Enough said!
|posted by (2014-02-24 15:53:04)|
|I think Russia has just killed ANY chance of Music concerts by Elton John, Ricky Martin, Clay Aiken, Tracy Chapman, Melissa Ethridge, etc.|
As well as losing any chance of Hollywood movies being shot in the country, as many actors, directors, and crew members are openly (or closet) bi or homosexuals, and would refuse to film in a country with such draconian laws.
PS. I wonder what Putin's wardrobe looks like now? He USED to wear Armani suits, but Giorgio Armani is openly Gay.
|posted by (2014-02-24 17:03:17)|
|the ones being heavily influence by propagandizes are you guys, you fail to see you have the same proms in you own country and do nothing to stop it,, how many of your countries allow gay marriage, adoptions, most do not. heck in the US gay sex acts is still illegal in many states ( just look at the US senator who was arrested for communicating gay sex in a bath room not to long ago).. . . being gay in Russia is not illegal. the only thing that is illegal is communicating gay sex/lifestyle to minors. it no different then communicating the same heterosexual sex to minors it still illegal even in our countries . why do these famous actors/sports stars, or general people in general shy away from being openly gay, well it the same as in Russia you will see prejudice against you for it.. pointing fingers at Russia is one thing but you still have 3 fingers point back at yourselves... the world is full of blind hypocrites|
|posted by (2014-02-25 19:26:53)|
|@Sacha99 'being gay in Russia is not illegal' is kind of like saying 'being a Jew in Nazi Germany wasn't illegal'. Legality has nothing to do with this, it's all about DISCRIMINATION and PERSECUTION ... something RUSSIA seems FULL OF lately. (Seems like they're taking a step BACKWARDS, towards a more Stalinist doctrine of persecution.)|
Most OTHER first world countries have their Anti-Gay religious fanatics, but not on the state approved level of Russia recently. On the flip side, most other countries ALSO have anti-discrimination LAWS that cover sexual preference ... not Russia (or several OTHER countries [mostly Muslim nations] for that matter.)
PS. If the CURRENT Russian laws were in effect 6 years ago, Sochi would have NEVER been awarded the Winter Olympics. The local council in Sochi had to go around a few days before the start of the Olympics and ORDER storekeepers to remove anti LGBT notices from their stores and other areas.
Most countries use hosting the Olympics as a reason for a nation-wide or area-wide cleanup to promote the country to the world ... Russia seems to use them for political grandstanding. After the way the Russian government has acted at the only 2 Olympics they've hosted (1980, 2014), I can't see them EVER winning the right to host another
(I think the philosophy of the IOC was 'let's give them another try, see how they act!' and later 'Whoops! OK, let's not do THAT again!'.
|posted by (2014-02-25 19:34:18)|
|PS. I'm as straight as a ruler, but I have some friends who are as bent as a paperclip. I've never seen sexual preference as being a qualifying factor for ANYTHING, seeing as how it can also be GENETIC, which a person has no control over (Like hermaphrodites, or people with other genetic sexual disorders.)|
MY philosophy is live and LET live. I don't CARE about other people's lifestyles, and as long as they don't try and force their lifestyle on me, or other people, I'm fine with their choices.
|@Crash1: Discrimination, bigotry and fearful persecution are all bolstered by simple language by said people (discriminatory, bigots, inferiority-persecution complexes) without thought as to what they are saying. For example, "bent" as a paperclip implies abnormality to the "straight" "norm" of heterosexuality. Who ever said homosexuality was an abberation?|
In evolutionary terms, heterosexuality is just one subset of life as a whole, as we all evolved from hermaphroditic organisms in which existed the possibility of both "sexes", and indeed today we still see the remnants of such hermaphroditic beginnings (testosterone in women, estrogen in men....these are natural elements and states of being for both men and women).
Ignorance and uneducated "morality" spread by ridiculous dogmatics of religious syncophants who have been brainwashed into believing incorrect, inaccurate and false "truths".
Please be honest about the fact that you really do care about other peoples' lifestyles because your own lifestyle is forced daily on non-heterosexuals, continally and constantly (if you can even see the other side of the mirror).
There are numerous examples of same-sex couplings and pairings all around us in nature (animals), so why would we (falsely) believe that we are somehow unique and outside of the natural order of the world? Microcosm/Macrocosm.
Strange how people speak one thing while really saying the opposite through their teeth.
Why not just speak plainly and say something to the effect of "...I'm fine with gays and fags and their queer ways as long as they don't shove it in my face, the c**cksuckers"?
|@Embolism: Today you really surprised me, and not in good way either. Your ideas and thoughts are generally interesting, well-formulated, informative and educational, and intelligent.|
However, I now question that intelligence if you truly believe that homosexuality is "...perverse and unnatural...", and I challenge you to provide factual data to support those claims/views/beliefs.
One can only imagine how these ideas were ingrained into your mind, though not too difficult to imagine.
If anything, homosexuality is indeed natural and science backs this resolutely.
Unfortunately, people like yourself and Crash1 can't help but smash people over the head with an overbloated (and unwarranted) sense of morality and superiority while at the same time purporting to be understanding and encompassing.
In other words, while claiming to be understanding and inclusive, in the same statement you both firmly state that homosexuality is unnatural, abberant and perverse, all of which are good descriptors of your own views (based on societal and no doubt religious constraints, restrictions and conformities).
In other words, you are slapping one side of the face while gently, soothingly stroking the other side of the same face in a "there-there" moment.
Strange for such intelligence to be blinded by inaccurate, non-factual, dogmatic beliefs.
Talk about sheep.
|posted by (2014-02-26 07:25:05)|
|@OpenMinder: The fact that you are writing like a homosexual it is your decision. To question someone intelligence and to challenge people to prove that the natural(heterosexual) birth of children is actual the right way for human beings... you have some superiority complex disorder.|
"If anything, homosexuality is indeed natural and science backs this resolutely."
Explain that to a child how he come come to be born here, on this planet.
So, does the stork brings children to his/hers parents? The children are made of clay like golems? They are being born by extra-terrestrials and "dumped" here? They are made in a tube?
Homosexuals[this is not an offense] (like you) are going to say and do anything, just so they could suck a d..., f... an bottom, kiss a man's mouth.
Why lesbians' propaganda can not be so much "heard"? Because the homosexual males (of course males) care only about their dic.. and everything else, about women, is the "unnatural" way ... even lesbianism is not natural enough for them to promote it like they do to homosexuality, because it involves women. Many homosexuals that married said in public interviews, that they wanted to adopt boys(!) and not girls(!!). Apparently, male homosexuality is "wanted" to become more of a legal form of pedophilia tabu/hidden-relations, than a choice between two legally adult males.
So people are sheep if they see that a child is coming out of a woman's womb ... like you ungrateful little ... did. I know many parents are imperfects, at least, but promoting and support of a way that would end our species entirely, it is let to escalate in behavior ... it is pure and simple and obvious ... evil. I might say, also, that I do not agree with violence, but many people, including homosexuals, understand only through violence. These people, that understand things only through violence, are not fully human beings, homosexuals or heterosexuals.
PS: Did you notice? That when it is talking about homosexuality, it becomes, most of the times, a "male discussion"/"between men"/"about men" ... It becomes a discussion almost exclusively, about men ... so much talk about men and men and men ... the discussion it self "becomes homosexual", with so much exclusiveness about men (what men do, what men don't, what men think, what men ... , what men ...) and nothing else.
Hope that my comment is of some sort of help ... but hope is something untouchable/immaterial/so less concrete/virtual/imaginative ... so ... you get my idea.
PPS: Sorry to be so long, but life and behavior and also talking about its ... is a complex thing.
|@idlo: You are right about mostly discussing men with regards to homosexuality because for the most part, they are the ones ostracized so for efficiency's sake we speak in terms of men but the same is true for both sexes, you are quite correct.|
The fact that you can characterize anyone's writing as "...writing like a homosexual..." speaks to many things, notably (as you refer to myself as being) a superiority complex, not to mention an obvious lack of reading comprehension, but to each their own. Disorder though? If you have a doctorate in Psychology or Psychiatry then that statement would be warranted for sure. Do you have a doctorate in either of these disciplines?
As to the intelligence factor, it takes intelligence to look past the "natural" order of birthing and look into the true "natural" order of life as progressing from single-celled organisms to where we are today to understand the subtext and context of what I wrote previously, but your bigotry no doubt will not allow a more open and inclusive mindset (but one can always hope).
Again, to each their own.
Yes I challenge anyone to provide facts to verify their beliefs, though going back to reading comprehension, nowhere did I mention any sort of challenge to prove that the birth of children is "...actually the right way for human beings..."
The challenge was for anyone to scientifically prove that homosexuality is abnormal and not a natural function of life, as it indeed is. This is not about birthing but about the normalcy of homosexuality, so to avoid narrow viewpoints and beliefs such as birthing equals normalcy (re: heterosexuality as being "normal"), please look past the societal constraints of that viewpoint and look into the science. Simple. No beliefs, just science. I don't think you can but please try.
Scientifically we evolved from hermaphroditic organisms, so if one believes that evolution is a "normal" and "natural" process, then by default all forms of sexuality are "normal" and "natural".
What you are saying and arguing/defending is the SOCIETAL label/standard of what is normal and/or natural, and that sadly is a purely subjective and constraining standard. Science does not lie, so why is it so difficult to trust in and believe in the science?
Is it so difficult to assess one's own views and beliefs and modify them with progressively educational learning and introspection, or is that also not normal or natural? Does a person have to believe in one thing only for the rest of their lives, to the exclusion of evidence to the contrary?
Maybe in your mind but not mine.
Thanks for the response and comment/thoughts. Try and open your mind and learn a bit about physiology and human evolution.
|posted by (2014-02-27 08:12:01)|
|@OpenMinder: Stop with your manipulation. Not all people are that much stupid to not understand the purpose of your comments.|
??? From were you understand to accurate use the words in the context:
"anyone's writing'" ... not anyone's, but your writing
"lack of reading comprehension" ... you write like you do not understand the term >>birth<<
"past the "natural" order of birthing" ... past the what? it is something more evolved than the the obvious way of giving birth??? So, homosexuals a more evolved way of giving birth, because the "natural" way is ... to savage for you "guys"???
"anyone to provide facts to verify their beliefs" ... humans are something like ...billions, some are just getting born, some other are locked in prisons/institutionalized "crazy houses" etc. ... you must be nuts to ask this from people like they own you such a thing ...
"anyone to scientifically prove" ... you write like you do not understand the common words I wrote, and you pretend to understand a "scientifically proof" explained, of course in scientifically vocabulary? Again, you must be nuts.
"Scientifically we evolved from hermaphroditic organisms" ... that is an incorrect truth ... like this you can pretend that every being will "evolve" into homosexuals ... again, you have to be nuts.
"you are saying and arguing/defending" ... so, in your views, the >>natural<< way is actually a "SOCIETAL label/standard of what is normal and/or natural" ... so giving birth is a societal label/standard ... so the fact of >>>women giving birth<<< need to be defending and arguing when speaking with you ... another - again, you got to be nuts.
"Is it so difficult ..." ... the truth it is not that difficult, because, the proof, people tend to know a lot about the other person to actually getting married and remain like that (maybe an entire life) ... the difficult part, is when the person becomes mentally unstable and the views/beliefs do not evolve because of comprehension but they do mutate into different kinds of immorality "so they could continue living in the comfort they are used to".
"a person have to believe..." peoples beliefs will not stop the Sun from being the Sun. Beliefs are imaginary things used to manipulate, mostly for evil, like you are doing here.
"Try and open your mind and learn a bit about physiology and human evolution." .. so actually you write like you think/believe like you do know more than me or other people reading your comments ... you are more evolved in understanding than all of us ... you are not just nuts, but completely insane.
Your comments are the proof that you suffer from a mischievous mental disorder and just like evil is promoting itself, your disorder is promoting itself.
I hope your insanity is actually getting payed with actual money, for all you trouble.
People that talk about the actual normality are never getting payed, but those promoting the unnatural is always payed (usually money) by some humans, in some way.
You may write ...whatever... as a reply to this comment, but I will not continue a comment exchange with you any more... because, plain and simple, you are truly insane, and you comments are the proof, like I just proved it in this comment.
PS: I did not write this comments for you, because I know your "mental kind" [so do not "thank" me - because you word "thanks" was just another deceit], but I wrote for the people willing to read these comments, and they have the right, no matter who they are and what they do, to not getting infected with deceitful and manipulative collage of words. You cannot just to f... your bottoms; you have to promote it like this is the "natural evolution of things" ignoring totally the existence of a woman's body's functions and also their lives. To ignore the fact that women are more than 50% of the global population, and their bodies' functions, and their lives, you can not be something less than ... purely and clearly ... insane. It is not the "f... of the bottom" that is making homosexuals so deviants, but their deviant mind.
|@idlo: idlo=unintelligible, uneducated, religious-dogmatics-indoctrinated, narrow-minded homophobe. Sad.|
|So, because the LGBT Community and Media focus on a single issue (currently) that means they are ignoring issues everywhere else?|
That may apply to the Media, and that's nothing new. But as for most of the LGBT Community, they can focus on more than one issue at a time in one location.
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