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Germany and France Discussed a US Free Internet

Germany and France Discussed a US Free Internet

Added: Friday, February 28th, 2014
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
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The recent rumors confirm that the plans to fire the United States as the supreme overload of the Internet are well underway with the Germans and the French revealing they are plotting something. Speculation started to filter out a few days ago, but German Chancellor Angela Merkel has just announced she would talk to French President Francois Hollande about creating a European communication network in order to avoid emails and other information passing through the US.

Angela Merkel has been pushing for greater information protection in Europe following 2013 reports about mass surveillance in her country. The United States really made a huge mistake when it tried to get away with tapping Chancellor’s own mobile phone. Angela Merkel wasn’t surprised that both Google and Facebook based their operations in countries with reportedly low levels of information protection while being active in such countries as Germany – the ones with high data protection.

Merkel said she was going to discuss with France about how both Germany and France could maintain a high level of information protection. She admitted her plans were to talk about EU providers offering security for European citizens, so that people shouldn’t have to send all data across the Atlantic. In other words, Merkel wants to create a communication network inside Europe. Perhaps it wouldn’t stop US hacking, but still ensure that European data legislation would be sacrosanct.

The office of the French president confirmed that the governments had been discussing the issue and said France agreed with Germans’ proposals. Berlin has been pushing (so far in vain) for a “no-spy” agreement with the United States, but the Americans insist that they own the worldwide web, and therefore don’t want to listen to anybody.

Posted by:  SuperAdmin
Date:  Friday, February 28th, 2014

Comments (20) (please add your comment »)

posted by Kitty (2014-02-28 17:13:15)
Daewoo avatarThe Internet, the one great thing that man has created, ruined by the Americans. No country can survive on it's own, the USA seem to be pushing the rest of the planet to rally against it. The bootnote in history will read 'Here lies the remains of a superpower, who thought it was too big to fail.'

posted by (2014-02-28 18:18:16)
jumbo71 avatarwhat a great idear, its about time every one stood up to america let them crumble under there own silly mistakes of trying to dictate to the rest of the world what they can do ....

posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendSuperman (2014-02-28 20:52:51)
trialNerror avatarI love these "Down With America" comments. Do you also mean to hell with all the honest hard working people trying to get by day by day like the majority of people on the planet? If so, yeah, thanks for your love and support. Cheers.

posted by Kitty (2014-02-28 21:27:08)
Daewoo avatar@trialNerror The feelings people have toward the USA are brought on by Americans themselves. I'm sure the NSA is filled with hardworking 'mericans. They are aggravating the rest of the world with this spying nonsense, as well as their own citizens. When the world gets sick of it the USA will suffer. The rest of the world will ignore the US and do business elsewhere. When the USA starts to lose money they'll know who to blame. Themselves. If you as an american don't like it then do something about your government and NSA. They are not spying to catch 'terrorists' they spy because they think they are answerable to no one. History will show if they are right.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2014-02-28 22:44:38)
Embolism avatarAmerican hubris in the affairs of other countries has brought nothing but pain and bloodshed in the last 11 or so years,a coup d`tat against Saddam Hussein whereby the Army laid down its weapons in the 1st 24hours followed by mass carpet bombing of Baghdad and the genocide of 1.5 million people leaving a country overrun with Al-queda and sectarian violence was just for openers,Afghanistan,Syria,Egypt just to mention a few others and all the while causing major financial disruption to the worlds economy and implementing a neo-nazi Orwellian approach to the internet in order to control the worlds media and thought police the rest of us,whilst most Americans are not in control of the political situation within their own country it must be said those in power should shoulder the responsibility for their actions and whilst in their own country they get away with it they should be brought to heel when it comes to further incursions lest the next country they think to subjugate is not an easy target and starts launching nukes since mutually assured destruction carries no weight in a jihad and if still alive and in possession of a nuke Yassar Arafat would be first to have a pot shot at any he could,Iran is much of the same ilk and have the Ayatollah leading the faithful,so time to say no to Internet police and time to rein in the military since the war on terror BS does nothing but create more terrorists ,just under 3000 died in 911 isn`t 1.5 million civilian deaths enough compensation for that not that they were Al-queda or combatants, but merely Arabs from the same continent.

posted by ET junkieET loverTurtle (2014-03-01 00:35:44)
fusseltier avatarif it wasn't for america, there wouldn't be an internet.
there are a lot of good things that come from america...
most people don't realize how many things we use daily that originally came from NASA.

none of this spying is new, its been going on since the 80s. all calls go through an NSA switch because if a country wants to have telephone connection to the US it has to have it or they won't let them connect calls to the states.
and in the 80s there was a thing called echelon that was spying on everyone.
i still don't understand why people think its all of a sudden bad when its been going on for over 20 years already.

i would still rather the US be the world police than russia or china be... wouldn't you? of course you do.

posted by (2014-03-01 00:37:34)
No avatarI want every one to hear this. the American government is not the only government to try and force their will on other countries. Look at Russia they invade former soviet countries when ever they see a problem there. Irans government forces their view of religion on them. Governments every where are the problem not the people living there.

posted by (2014-03-01 01:08:08)
No avatar@ Fusseltier none of them realize what we have done and haven't done for them or there country .. i DO agree with them the way it looks we are the bad guys but all country's spy on one another for ever reason we just got caught its being made into a really big mess , and yea the US started internet.

I'll get flamed big time I'm sure . but come here live it's not what you may think .

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2014-03-01 03:00:54)
Embolism avatarToptek as for being against Americans I am not my sister has been a citizen of the USA for 30 years and has 5 kids and 3 grandkids that are American as for the American government ,CIA,NSA where would you like to start hmm,state sponsored terrorism from the Carter and Reagan administrations who trained and funded Bin Laden and Al-Queda,CIA created wars as with Vietnam starting in 1964 and onward with kill squads and a whole shed load of nasty stuff throughout the war which was only eclipsed by the Khmer rouge after Americas withdrawal,Look it up the history is there if you and other Americans want to really know the truth and look beyond the complacent apathy your government wants you all to live behind.
Even watch and learn from documentary films like Shadows of liberty 2013 and find out how the government allowed the American market to be flooded with crack cocaine to support the contras they were supported by and other such cover ups.
To believe without question is the mark of sheeple and to allow what is unconscionable without action is duplicity by Agreement,everyone knows of Gitmo,everyone is aware of the detainees the American government hold illegally and without charge or trial and have tortured with everything up to waterboarding when no guilt has been proven and they are still in detention for an indeterminate amount of time as well as a new wing being refurbished at a cost of 650 million dollars for the next wave of inmates..
As regards the Internet no one person created what we call the internet today since it was first conceived by klienrock and the first message was sent around the 50`s over ARPANet since that time it has changed greatly through advancements in technology and the WWW created by TimBL (Tim Berners Lee ),the computers we use to interact with the WWW were created by Alan Turing and Konrad Zuse, but yet again without Charles Babbage having the idea of a programmable machine around the 1820`s none of it would ever have been created and he was English as is Timbl so if you wish to claim we owe everything to America think again.
To cap this off we never asked for your help in fighting this war or that war and most certainly did not ask for your assistance in going to Iraq ,America asked for our complicity in that regard as without a second country to assist your troops the invasion of Iraq would not have happened and it was only with the threat of WMD`s that our country was swayed into action,trouble is America could`nt even be honourable then and attacked 45 minutes ahead of schedule in a pre-emptive attack and then has made deals with the Kurds to allow them 40% of the profits from Iraqs oil among its other dodgy deals,oil that does not belong to them nor that the kurds have any right too.
I don`t have to make up any thing your own history does that and if you look into it you will be disgusted with your country and its leadership especially today when your fundamental rights are being infringed in the 4th and 5th amendments everyday and you are fed so much drivel to keep you dumb and ignorant of the facts it is surprising its not coming out of your ears. (:^D)

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2014-03-01 03:45:00)
Embolism avatarJust to finalize since all are respected for having an opinion here whether it differs from ours or not there is a word that has been bandied about here and that is freedom and that comes in many forms from personal freedoms as is denied in Gitmo to giving Iraq its freedom from Saddam Hussein which led to genocide of its civilians and Al-queda recruiting all those dispossessed and disillusioned by American intervention.
The article is also in regards freedoms being affected with personal emails and data being collected without the users consent by a foreign country,now this is not one government spying on another this is mass collecting of personal data and dissemination of such and on a scale even our mr Snowden is not guilty of,but its ok your American so that makes it alright,oh BTW can i read your letters and if sexting your missus can I see her replies.lmao,only in the land of the free is such seen as acceptable, or is it.!!
Echelon was mentioned also and yes it was used among 5 or so countries using telephone switched exchanges in canada,uk,USA etc for monitoring of emails,telephone calls and faxes but nowhere on such a scale as world domination of cyberspace which is what is outlined in the 2001 CIA/NSA whitepaper by the director of the CIA whereby the mandate is clear that all data is to be collected irrespective of whether its from a 5 year olds computer or from Putin`s laptop and such is my personal objection since the overreach in this mandate is totally staggering.

posted by (2014-03-01 07:08:36)
TeryongNoypi avatarTapping Chancellor’s own mobile phone? BAD!

posted by ET babyET lover (2014-03-01 10:36:51)
eNdEmiOn avatarFrance and privacy protection!?

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2014-03-01 10:39:47)
Embolism avatar@13 not just Angela Merkels phone, but over 200 politicians and ministers and that was just among the countries that support them, their own allies are not even safe.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2014-03-01 10:57:41)
Embolism avatar@14 I think they are one of the few countries that have since the Microsoft court cases involving browser malware/spyware have edged closer to Linux albeit slowly since it has long been realized by them that paying millions in fees for a licence from Microsoft for them to spy on you is the height of stupidity.
The aim has been first the government,then the police and finally schools,when its free financially and from windows viruses who can blame them.

posted by (2014-03-01 22:20:38)
No avatarI deleted my post they don't say what i mean sorry, here is a few facts, i can post were and when the first PC idea started with solid facts, if needed and if you want some war facts I'l get them to .

ITs all on the internet. THe real turth I don't make stuff up .

The history of the Internet began with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. The first message was sent over the ARPANet, which evolved into the internet, from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), after the second piece of network equipment was installed at Stanford Research Institute (SRI). Packet switched networks such as ARPANET, Mark I at NPL in the UK, CYCLADES, Merit Network, Tymnet, and Telenet, were developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s using a variety of protocols. The ARPANET in particular led to the development of protocols for internetworking, in which multiple separate networks could be joined together into a network of networks.

In 1982, the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP) was standardized, and consequently, the concept of a world-wide network of interconnected TCP/IP networks, called the Internet, was introduced. Access to the ARPANET was expanded in 1981 when the National Science Foundation (NSF) developed the Computer Science Network (CSNET) and again in 1986 when NSFNET provided access to supercomputer sites in the United States from research and education organizations. Commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) began to emerge in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990. The Internet was commercialized in 1995 when NSFNET was decommissioned, removing the last restrictions on the use of the Internet to carry commercial traffic.

Since the mid-1990s, the Internet has had a revolutionary impact on culture and commerce, including the rise of near-instant communication by electronic mail, instant messaging, Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) "phone calls", two-way interactive video calls, and the World Wide Web with its discussion forums, blogs, social networking, and online shopping sites. The research and education community continues to develop and use advanced networks such as NSF's very high speed Backbone Network Service (vBNS), Internet2, and National LambdaRail. Increasing amounts of data are transmitted at higher and higher speeds over fiber optic networks operating at 1-Gbit/s, 10-Gbit/s, or more. The Internet's takeover of the global communication landscape was almost instant in historical terms: it only communicated 1% of the information flowing through two-way telecommunications networks in the year 1993, already 51% by 2000, and more than 97% of the telecommunicated information by 2007.[1] Today the Internet continues to grow, driven by ever greater amounts of online information, commerce, entertainment, and social networking.

posted by (2014-03-01 22:49:18)
No avatarEmbolism i can post links from this country alone how big crops like verizon are using the GOV to milk US then make it look like they are the good buys by kissing up the GOV to get what they want .. it not just were you live trust me .. GREED is every were .thats not what this news head line was about but about two countrys trying to make us look bad if they get there way no telling what there real movative is. look at it that way ..

posted by Kitty (2014-03-02 23:16:45)
redbull99 avatargreat! more useless information thanks e.t

posted by (2014-03-03 07:56:01)
jackle28 avatarif you guys want real news that will shock the hell out of you go too this youtube vid and you will see why u.s is starting this, watch?v=kTx4FXaCWjQ

posted by ET junkieET loverSupermanmen (2014-03-03 16:52:49)
sn3h1t87 avatarlet be realistic If you're sending an email from anywhere to anywhere, odds are that at least one or both of you are using an email account with one of the big US-based internet companies (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc.). Or you don't even bother with email and use Facebook instead.

So your message is very likely to not only cross the Atlantic, but also get stored and backed up redundantly in several datacenters including servers in the US. This has nothing to do with internet architecture, just market forces and poor consumer options.

Internet routing only begins to matter to email security if your email account is hosted privately or by a local organization - and even then, you're better off securing the email by encryption than trying to compartmentalize a network that was designed from the beginning to ignore physical locations and borders.

posted by Site FriendET loverSuperman (2014-03-04 03:50:17)
Embolism avatarI don`t know why i bother sometimes I really don`t Toptek if you read my comment @9 you would not need to copy and paste the wiki page @15 and you might understand that the internet today is not purely the internet of the 50`s which was developed for use in the theatre of war,and that the internet of today and the WWW invented by Tim Berners Lee is vastly different to that created for a few hundred linked machines back then,also it was not a new idea nor one that could have been accomplished without the works of others to begin with who were not American,so the we created everything BS can be shelved and does not give America the right to police the internet we all know and love today,look up those I named and what they did and when,look at their contribution and understand Bill Gates did not invent the computer or the WWW and so should not have any right to control the world cyberspace,nuff said.

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