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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > UK ISP Requires Costly Upgrades to Secure Wi-Fi Connection

UK ISP Requires Costly Upgrades to Secure Wi-Fi Connection

UK ISP Requires Costly Upgrades to Secure Wi-Fi Connection

Added: Wednesday, April 7th, 2010
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Industries Of Records, Gaming, Software, Movies
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
TalkTalk’s (UK ISP) warning: many users will have to spend £70 for a new router, and also £20 for a new Wi-Fi card for the laptop if they want to be secured from others using their Internet connection for downloading copyrighted content or from the risk to lose it altogether.

TalkTalk, the UK’s biggest broadband provider, having more than 4 million customers, did not welcome the government’s intention to implement a “three-strikes” regime, and joined the first Internet Service Providers rejecting any attempts to make them to violate their users’ rights and bound their freedom of Internet use.

The ISP has highlighted that there won’t be people accused, but rather IPs. Taking into account that Wi-Fi connections are quite unsecured, lots of innocents are exposed to the so called “superhighway robbery.” TalkTalk carried out a research last October in order to prove this fact concerning Wi-Fi. The results were unsurprising – over forty percent of Wi-Fi connections in several areas were found to be vulnerable to illegal use.

As the result, the ISP came to a conclusion that most households need to replace their Wi-Fi equipment to prevent the risk of losing the connection if it would be used by pirates illegally downloading copyrighted content. The customers need to pay about £70 for a new router and £20 for an upgraded Wi-Fi card for the laptop.

Andrew Heaney, the representative for TalkTalk, thinks it’s just ridiculous that people are being made to pay for improved security in the favor of the industry that simply can’t move with the times.

The government has also made it clear that it doesn’t want to make any exceptions for public access Wi-Fi. So it’s also the subject to the Digital Economy Bill, which classifies the provider of Wi-Fi access as an Internet Service Provider, rather than a subscriber. So now every single coffee house and hotel, as well as public libraries and village hall community projects are falling under the same liabilities as TalkTalk. And the main problem of it is that if somebody accessing via wireless violates the law by downloading infringing material, it would be impossible to determine the miscreant. So the responsibility is lying onto the access point owner’s shoulders.

It seems like copyright owners just don’t care about where their own inaction will bring the country.

April 7th, 2010

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Date:  Wednesday, April 7th, 2010

Comments (21) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2010-04-07 10:52:02)
trauts avatarIs this referring to older routers (linksys,netgear) coming out the box without WPA etc turned on and lamers not having a clue about this?? ... as I was under the impression it was not against the law to log on to ANY unsecured network?

posted by (2010-04-07 11:22:42)
kingtiger01 avatarits refering to any Access-Point Device(usually consumer-level routers fitted with a AP) thats Unencrypted with WPA2 encryption. prior to 2007 most consumer level 'Routers' didnt offer WPA2 or in some cases even WPA.

The real problem they dont get is, WPA/WPA2/WEP ARE ALL CRACKABLE!!!!! is used to do it in my CCNA Class for CERTIFICATION!!! we had to be familiar with the Protocols Flaws.

The problem is the UK is so stupid not to see its not a problem with the consumer, its a problem with the Copyright holder!


The USA is going down the same path with the Loss of control with the FCC... Say good-bye to Net Neutrality and Public Broadband. Comcast is Officially a Chinese like ISP!!!!

posted by Site Friend (2010-04-07 12:50:47)
magiccrack avatarNice read, thanx ET

posted by Site Friend (2010-04-07 16:17:01)
Greenstreet avatarThanks Sam.
What a joke , yet again the British public have to cough up some stupid Amount of cash just to use there laptop on the sofa.
It's got to be cheaper to get a very long eternet cable :))))

posted by (2010-04-07 16:18:24)
SnakeyB avatarThanks, SaM.
The more Hotels, coffee shops, etc. that get warnings and or cut off/court dates for copy-write infringement the better in my book. Especially in the case of hotels they have the resources and access to the media to fight back, that we the little guy consumer's don't have. As this sort of thing makes it to the main stream media I think more and more people are going to realize the insane laws being passed are only helping a few very rich corporations while hurting and inconveniencing the "average Joe".

posted by Blocked (2010-04-07 16:50:46)
iamezaz avatarGreat topic thnks SaM

posted by Site FriendXbox (2010-04-07 17:04:22)
Painless avatarTALKTALK is crap , my uncle has it and for a basic account i think you get 40gb limt every month, and they was the one who was going to do the three strikes thing, at the time, it was in the (The SUN Paper) I'm with Virgin Media, the best for me, I'm paying £15 a month for 10mb speed and unlimted download, as i did at the time download around 100gb of Xbox 360 games at the time........

posted by (2010-04-07 17:10:50)
No avatarlool @ kingtiger01

posted by (2010-04-07 17:50:50)
katep avatarthat would just about shut my connection down as I have a lot of debt like most people today and cannot pay that without a debt management comapany so would not be able to get that cash for new stuff

posted by Blocked (2010-04-07 22:38:20)
menahunie avatarWhat has not been mentioned is British Law is different the USA Law. In Britian you are presumed guilty until you are proven innocent. This means YOU have to prove you are innocent NOT the one's making the charge. This again means you are charged with a crime - copyright YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU DIDN'T commit the copyright violation; not like in the USA where you are presumed INNOCENT until proven guilty. This means you are charged for a crime even civil matter the Government or person making the charge has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt you did it..
Some one I heard about was chased around for a copyright charge for having current music; but did not have the "original" cd's. They told the one's making the charges they got the music from recording it from the open air radio station playing it. The one making the charge against them ALMOST LITERALLY jumped on top of a table in the court screaming at the top of their lungs and pointing their finger - SEE THEY ADMIT TO VIOLATING COPYRIGHT....
They responded back NO the radio station never put a legal notice at intervals in the radio shows broadcast that recording any part of it INCLUDING MUSIC was a copyright violation. You could hear a pin drop after that.
In the USA there is a new law being pushed by the recording Companies called - The Performance Tax. I guess this is their answer for the open air broad casts of music. Long time ago IT WAS THE RECORDING COMPANIES PAYING THE RADIO STATIONS TO PLAY THEIR UH THE "ARTISTS" MUSIC...
One suggestion I have not seen is everyone and get their friends to do also is QUIT buying music; movies - DVD, and going to the theaters for a period of six months... See what happens; just watch the boob tube - TV.. and listen to the radio...It might be very very interesting results.
Just think people not standing in line to see another stupid SAW #100 movie, or not buying the latest release cd from a current RAPPER or POP STAR..

posted by (2010-04-07 22:43:45)
shoota90 avatarthat nice but why p2p stuff that can cause these problems

posted by (2010-04-07 22:46:20)
shoota90 avatari only use wifi dongle so it affects me

posted by (2010-04-08 06:39:45)
4JIMi2sTEXAS0 avatarthanks for the read

posted by (2010-04-08 08:23:27)
jammybaby avatari agree with menahunie and kingtiger01..this is a never ending issue ...they want to drink the last drop we got in the name of entertaining us ....n we learn ways not to do that :))

posted by (2010-04-09 03:37:16)
CommanderKeen avatar@ menahunie Actually in British law (which American law is based on as are many other laws around the world)we also, by law, have innocent until proven guilty. But this appears to be forgotten these days, as the big corporations can bully their way into making us, little people, pay up rather than face court. In Britain to have a criminal record is with you for life, and affects any job you want to go for, as all is in recorded databases, even though you have already been punished! Imagine treating your kids in the same way, never letting them forget they made a mistake.

posted by Blocked (2010-04-09 07:02:10)
menahunie avatarCommanderKeen,
Yes USA laws are based in part only from British Law. That is why we have this avasarial law system.
But get arrested in Britian and YOU will see exactly what I mentioned.
In English Law - Britain YOU ARE PRESUMED GUILTY UNTIL YOU PROVE YOU ARE INNOCENT. American law changed that to YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN Guilt beyond a reasonable doubt...
The British system is subject to much abuse because of this guilty until proven innocent.. The accused has much much more work and needs allot of CASH to prove their defense.
As for USA law being based on "other" laws around the world in news to me....

posted by (2010-04-09 09:51:12)
cleric_2204 avatarlol menahunie.sounds like you talk from bitter experience,but alas it is not the way you described,guilty till proved innocent...yeah right,been through the court systemn enough to know your talking rubbish

posted by (2010-04-09 09:52:27)
cleric_2204 avatarps we have legal aid,so no we dont need loads of cash as most times we pay nothing,look before you talk =)

posted by Blocked (2010-04-10 11:27:41)
menahunie avatarCleric_2204 take your unwarranted and uninformative comments and shove them.
Legal aid is a joke and you use them and you you go to jail... They don't defend you; they just plead your case in real life and it doesn't matter even if your are innocent. How many people are in prison who really are innocent and they took the advice of Legal Aid...
You want a real defense it gonna cost you period...

posted by (2010-04-10 16:01:59)
No avatar@menahunie

You might want to check your facts. Although it certainly APPEARS that the presumption of innocence has disappeared from English jurisprudence, it is, as it has been for hundreds of years, still in force.

Further, the Council of Europe's Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms states "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law". This convention has been adopted by treaty and is binding on all Council of Europe members."

Now, your points about rights being ignored and defendants being obligated to pay quite dearly to mount an effective defense are quite true. It's just that they're based on an illegal interpretation of the law and are not, themselves, the law.

As has been seen in history, again and again, tyrannical systems of rule are always worst just before they collapse. Let's consider these last gasps of the old system of rights holders the storm before the fall.

posted by (2010-04-10 19:36:48)
Pl4sm0 avatarinteresting reading ...thanks

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