UK Digital Economy Bill Probably Enters Final ReadingAdded: Thursday, April 8th, 2010
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Today UK’s DEB (Digital Economy Bill) entered House of Commons for the second reading, with no scrutiny or debates as the opposition had hoped. The second reading, by the way, can be the last one. The Bill, if passed, might literally be able to choke legitimate websites, public access Wi-Fi and innocent broadband users.
The high speed of the process was repeatedly questioned by such critics as the Open Rights Group, which demanded full debate and better scrutiny of a legislation, claiming it to have very dramatic consequences for community.
Jim Killock from the Open Rights Group wrote that Internet is similar vital service as well as water or electricity are, and can’t be revoked so easily. The whole household can’t be deprived of all its benefits only because of accusation of a single individual. He urges MPs not to neglect the wishes of thousands of voters to pass the Bill in a proper way, as it grants authority for citizens disconnection and website blocking, which is a very important matter. Killock also calls disconnection a “draconian measure”, as households use the web in their lives for free speech, work and education, and these benefits can’t be taken away without good reasons.
The part of the problem is that the government doesn’t have enough time to debate the Bill, because it’s experiencing so called “wash-up” period now with the election scheduled next. The Bills can’t be discussed after the election for the clear reason – the government structure will change. That leaves the Bill with the only way to be passed with fast or no debate at all, which means it will pass in not satisfactory shape.
Usually a bill begins in the House of Commons, and then goes to and pro from the Lords to the Commons till a final vote. This process may take up to a year, but the DEB is just in its second reading, and it began life in the House of Lords.
However, the government plans to amend the provision concerning website filtering after today’s reading in order to appease the rising public concerns. The changes include the courts ought to consider the effect on legitimate uses before blocking websites, and ISPs exemption from paying court cost.
Nevertheless, the Bill remains a sad state of things when government places concerns of the private business above the public good. Today is the reckoning day, though.
April 7th, 2010Posted by:
Thursday, April 8th, 2010
|WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|Thanks SaM ... This doesnt look good for anyone but the corperations!|
|posted by (2010-04-08 13:56:22)|
|Bills are passed in this manner because governments are not and never have been there for the public. They are there for the moneymen to monopolise them. As the saying goes "Money talks". Go check out the fall of the republic on utube makes good veiwin and listenin.|
|posted by (2010-04-08 14:06:35)|
|It beggars belief that we have been crying out for years on ways to stop indecent child porn from being up and downloaded to no avail. But as soon as the capitalist corperations step in and start whinging about lost revenue, low and behold the governments step up to the plate. Does this not show that the powers that be are just meer puppets for these capitalist corperations|
|This bill has now been passed - late last night my time...If it is enforced it will probably spell the end of P2P in the UK. I think Australia will be next - Isnt that right Senator Conroy!|
The anti-piracy measures in this Bill have been essentially written by the music industry but despite opposition from just about everyone, it was approved by 189 MPs with just 47 against.
Nice to know we get so much support...
|this looks like spelling the end of p2p just like nobs68 says above it was a different story when people were downloading kiddy porn and asking the goverment for years and years to put in place some sort of legislation to stop the perverts from downloading the stuff now a few big multinational corporations put the heat on the goverment to stop p2p and the goverment jumps how high well thats anyones guess money talks as they say so these guys will just say ""you better do something about it or forget the funding we do to your election campaigns"" funny how there is an election looming and this bill is passed what happened to freedom anywhere first you cant smoke then there's camera's everywhere you cant do anything now big brother's got you from every angle even downloading data what next we arn't allowed out after 7pm|
|all this started happening in the u.k. when peter mandelson started going on free holidays with the head of sony, a week later this new law comes out i wonder how much hes got out of it?? bit like tony blair and his secret crawford/iraq oil deals which made him Â£11 million, power corrupts? u betcha!!|
|Can't we just hide our IP addresses?|
|posted by (2010-04-08 16:51:14)|
|posted by (2010-04-08 20:19:51)|
|C'mon Guys lets put our heads together. They're always playing catch up as we stay one step ahead of thier bullcrap. So how do we rescue this situation to stop them winning? They can't beat us. ET must remain the place to be.|
|posted by (2010-04-08 22:05:23)|
|Stupid Politicians and Peter Bentlord Mandelson.|
I live in the Uk...I download from here and elsewhere, I am just about to get Virgin media to put in the 50meg broadband speed as I am sick of them slowing me down all the time. Its the only one that has no download cap, and now they pull this digital Bill crap. I hate them. I am just going to have to subscribe to hide my ass at hidemyass.com and make my IP anonymous and route it all through another country...lets see them catch me when I am in Sweden, or the Netherlands.... not!!!!
|posted by (2010-04-08 23:43:50)|
|I'm on Virgin Media and thought they didn't block or slow down traffic from P2P clients. 2-3 hours to download a 700MB film not bad I thought. Then because of this bill I started to use an Open-VPN server to securely route my connection (anything on my pc) through a server in Malaysia and back through UK, Lux, Sweden or US. Now the same film would take maybe 10-20 mins max to download. Virgin only see my secure Open-VPN connection through to Malaysia and see the amount of traffic but can not see what the traffic is, so no throttling of you PAID FOR bandwidth and no logs kept by VPN guys as long as you follow their rules. Sort your DNS servers out to point to openDNS and who's gonna know what your doing? its a hell of a lot faster and secure. Lets see how long it takes for a bill to pass to stop this from happening before something else becomes common.|
|posted by (2010-04-09 00:34:00)|
|the thing is its not even the government who are doing the spying they are giving are data to the music and film people to do the spying not sure how that works when the company is a non uk one but they kept say this bill is to save the uk entertainment industry wonder if that means we can still download anything we want from outside the uk|
but I heard in the so called debate that this will not be law for at least 6 months even if it passed it will take another 6 months+ before anything can be done so my advice get what you can now
|posted by (2010-04-09 01:17:59)|
|maybe some good news|
â€œTalkTalk one of the UKâ€™s three biggest internet service providers has vowed not to co-operate with measures to combat file-sharing set out in the governmentâ€™s controversial digital economy bill, expected to receive royal assent within days.â€
|that sucks !!|
|well, easily said. Everyone just get up and leave the country. see what kind of message they get then. a 60% tax loss should Definitely enough to gather a point!|
|posted by (2010-04-09 12:22:55)|
|mandelson the bastard has helped pass this bill this bastard isnt even elected and was twice forced to resign for dodgy practices|
|posted by (2010-04-09 17:50:02)|
|Surely the only option, aside from the use of a Proxy Server, is for the next generation of P2P Clients to incorporate some form of Zero Information Capability - where information on IP Addresses is encrypted, and Anti P2P Tracking becomes impossible.|
|Don`t give up, YOUR governments won`t set you................ Welcome to not being free!|
|man you guys in the uk got it worse then us in america when it comes to copyright laws|
|posted by (2010-04-10 03:04:44)|
|The REASON nothing was done about the kiddy porn is because mandelson and brown were downloading it aswell google D notice and find out the info for yourself thats right our government is littered with pedophiles|
|posted by (2010-04-10 15:04:33)|
|Given that the Digital Economy Bill has passed Third Reading, and will enter Statute within a matter of days, surely the next generation of P2P Clients must incorporate anonymity (ie where the IP Addresses of any participant is secured to any party other than the central network), or which involve setting up a Web Proxy. This is not a recommendation - but I have just heard of http://www.your-freedom.net which addresses the Web Proxy issue.||
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