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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Digital Economy Bill Passed

Digital Economy Bill Passed

Digital Economy Bill Passed

Added: Sunday, April 11th, 2010
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
Yesterday the Government of the United Kingdom passed the controversial DEB (Digital Economy Bill) in the 3rd reading. The debate was for 2 hours only. So, the Bill will soon become law, and as a result everybody will have to stop online sharing, providing the entertainment industry with the possibility to net billions.

The Conservative opposition forced DEB in yesterday Government session. Nobody wanted to notice countless complaints about the Bill being passed now in a rush, so after 2 hours of debate in the House of Commons, it is decided to become law. The music industry added a lot to the anti-piracy measures introduced in the Bill, and they were approved by 189 Members of Parliament, having left only 47 against. One of those few was Tom Watson, former Cabinet Office minister. He said he was very upset and even felt physically sick, according to his Twitter post. From 650 present MPs only 236 bothered to appear and even less participated in debate – just 39 people, which makes 5% of them altogether. Only 5% of those who care, you know. If you saw the broadcast last night, you obviously could understand that the rest of them are indifferent to views of their constituents and don’t care about democracy and the future of digital Britain.

What is the future now? DEB will pass lacking its site-blocking clause, replaced by amendment, enabling the Secretary of State for Business to cut off “a location on the Internet” used for copyright infringement. Not such a big difference, though.

So that’s it. The community is now expected to run and save the industry, helping it generate extra money, create numerous jobs, and prevent the public from file-sharing. Do you think it would? After 20,000 people having written emails to the MPs in order to express their displeasure? Who believes P2P methods would be gone? Or newsgroups and Rapidshare stop? Well, probably Google would stop including links to copyrighted content in the results?

All the government is going to get is the same as in France, where illegal file-sharing has actually increased by 3% after introducing similar law.

Europe, which always liked to heap on the United States for the lack of concern for human rights and enlightenment, is now having 2 countries pleasing the music and movie industry at the expense of its community liberty. That’s kind of a shame, really.

April 11th, 2010

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Date:  Sunday, April 11th, 2010

Comments (45) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2010-04-11 11:46:35)
redmist64 avatargood article, thanks for keeping us all informed, i cannot get my head round the fact that this has finally come to fruition...what now for us?

posted by Blocked (2010-04-11 11:53:59)
peterchrist avatargreedy mps...corupt goverments,,sick and tired of them,,politicians are only useless vermins, that live for themselves, give laws for themselves,
i will not go to cinema anymore, i will not give my money to the hollywood..i will tell all my friends to do so...
anyhow,mostly what they do is rubish...and if they think they can beat us, defeat us, they are wrong...
long live the freedom of the people

posted by (2010-04-11 12:01:28)
WizardOfOss avatarGood article. The gov has no clue what's going on in public and it will not help.

posted by Blocked (2010-04-11 12:36:43)
iamezaz avatarF the gov.No matter how much they release their pesky laws it's not going to effect the bittorrent community.

posted by (2010-04-11 13:11:13)
katep avatarfrom what I have been told the letters don't start till spring 2011 and the cut your Internet and block sites does not kick in till 2012

but I fear it will be brought forward after the election the first politician that comes to my door is going to hear about this piece of crap bill big time

posted by (2010-04-11 13:11:36)
katep avatarfrom what I have been told the letters don't start till spring 2011 and the cut your Internet and block sites does not kick in till 2012

but I fear it will be brought forward after the election the first politician that comes to my door is going to hear about this piece of crap bill big time

posted by (2010-04-11 13:37:47)
masterblaster_earth avatarTime we kicked of at these fools.

posted by Blocked (2010-04-11 13:48:21)
menahunie avatarWell not related but very very similar - politicians ignoring the people who elected them into office..SO if you did not vote you have no right to whine and cry over what's happening.
In the USA the health care bill was rammed through and passed by only the democrats.
The American people - certain ones have become so upset that the politicians are having to increase security due to threats to their personal security and even to their life from what they did in spite of all the phone calls, letters and more...
The REAL problem is people don't give a rats a$$ about what happens to "Other" people- UNTIL it smacks them along side of the head. This means anything happens until people daily lives have been effected - THEN WATCH OUT.
The American people are waking up because the screw job from the politicians have become so overt; open and calious that it can not be ignored anymore. You see the "Tea Party" Group has formed except media and certain entities work very very hard to make them out to be nut jobs; except when you see them on TV they are everyday people. The one's you see on TV all dressed up are the very few extreme ones singles out by the media for ridicule and attempts to discredit "normal" people like you and I.

posted by ET lovermen (2010-04-11 14:32:05)
rejoinder avatarwell i know one thing i ain't stopping

posted by Sun (2010-04-11 14:50:42)
klaatu avatarwhat a croc, our government really is useless

posted by (2010-04-11 15:27:11)
jdrav avatarIt makes you wonder if the millions who died in the second world war and the conflicts since in the name of liberty and free speech could have their voices heard! I wonder what they would have said? I'm sure they wouldn't be pleased. Neither am I!!
I also wonder if people in general really understand what this type of law means to their freedom to search the internet, I fear this only a first step the govt will take to police the internet fully.

posted by (2010-04-11 16:11:36)
TonicMonster avatarThis is just typical of making the rich richer. lol

posted by (2010-04-11 16:16:50)
Brynn217 avatarLOL... I dont need the TV to show the Tea Party members are nuts... I live and work daily with a bunch of them... Most are miss informed, have only part of the info on a subject and go blindly directed where their leaders point them...

Like for example, The State Election is coming and Fox News decides to run a story on how this State (Maryland) has a 2-4 Million Defict and then decides to hire Sub-Contractor for Road work that State Workers could do cheaper... Sounds good right? Tea Party members here would love it.....Thats only half the story.... High Unemployement + Money from the Fed Stimulas Plan = Put Sub-Contractors to Work... But you didnt hear THAT on Fox News....Their aim was to make the Governor look bad...

The Media will always paint the picture on EVERY SUBJECT to make someone look bad and get the rest stirred up.... Providing only some of the info... Unfortunatly the issue of P2P is like a GUN... It can be used for Good or Bad.. But the Media only Focuses on the Bad and the laws are written to Stop the Bad, even tho the Good still happens.. And in this case The Bad becomes a Moral issue of Stealing... at what point does something that is digital property become FREE to Share? We all like to share it, some of us package it up and resell it too...

So where does that leave us? The Laws are right and just, Morally its the right thing for them to do... If your job was in Paraliment or Congress, would you really think what the Movie execs and such want you to do is BAD? Even tho WE dont like it, and most people dont because we all want to STEAL and bitch when then try to stop us.... Is it the Lawmakers fault? Really now?

there is no Freedom when Joe Blow gets his Band together down in Liverpool and begins writting music and songs and plays at the local pub and the stuff ends up being shared on the Internet before they can even sell their first album.... What if the Beatles had ended up like that? There has got to be some middle ground....

posted by (2010-04-11 16:25:52)
Brynn217 avataroh, FYI- Them Having the Power to cut off your internet for Illegal P2P is just like any parent who punishes their child for breaking the rules and cutting off their freedoms- No Friends, Stay in your room, Sit in the corner... etc....

To take responibility for your own actions is called Integrity... Stop bitching, If you are doing something that is Morally wrong and get caught, Standup and say, "ys, I did it, I am sorry.." And serve your punishment...

posted by (2010-04-11 16:34:43)
katep avatarI know one thing I am not stopping also I watch the colbert report the only way to watch it in the uk is download as it was took off uk tv last year but still the website blocks uk users also all the other tvs I like to watch before they come over here like smallville all of which I buy on dvd when they come out

posted by (2010-04-11 18:52:14)
jdrav avatarbrynn217
You have a valid point but there will be no middle ground with uk gvt, and it still an infrngement on our freedom of speech and liberty that is in question.

posted by (2010-04-11 20:03:33)
megaplay avatarThe only thing I'm worried about is the government controlling all media...using scare tactics to take away your personal liberties until you have no freedom left...remember Hitler?

posted by (2010-04-11 20:41:03)
No avatarwell if this comes into full force and i do have to stop downloading completely it certainly not gonna create more jobs from my money because if all i can use my internet for is facebook and online shopping i ll just stick to a usb dongle and wave goodbye to my isp so congratulations mr government minister if even one percent follow my lead thats a lot of 20 mb lines gone and a lot of investment in future technologies out the window

posted by (2010-04-11 23:17:27)
No avatarCan I just say something menahunie? SO WHAT IF YOU DONT VOTE!! ONE TICK EVERY FEW YEARS DONT MEAN SHIT!! The internet is a massive realtime communication device. If we all used it too poll on policy EVERY WEEK!, I would support your comment about not voting. We support corruption by choosing too vote like we do. One tick in a box, yeah rite.

posted by (2010-04-12 00:13:21)
jammybaby avatarthis all scares me :( i dunno what will happen but life will be too hard coz i m so use to it now ....i hate these politicians ans i hate people who dont vote ....make sure u all vote them and punish them for what they doin to us ...

posted by Blocked (2010-04-12 00:14:17)
One tick in the box DOES mean allot despite your lazy a$$ excuse for NOT VOTING.
Fewer and fewer people are not voting because they have the same stupid attitude you have..
What this means say you have one million voters and people like NewZealanderz don't vote because they whine their vote means so who give s F? Say you have 700,00 of these; then only 300,000 out of one million vote. People like NewZealanderz have put more and more power into the hands of those WHO DO VOTE. This means fewer people have to get propagandized and vote they way the powers to be want and special interest.
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED so you can VOTE - VOTE.. You don't whining and crying on ET for what is happening IS YOUR OWN FAULT...
So when that day comes this year put down your keyboard, mouse, xbo360, Wii, iPOS or what ever and VOTE..
That would scare the crap out of the people you are complaining about..

posted by (2010-04-12 00:46:35)
macbeth avatarthe greed of the goverment + "music" ppl this country sucks ************************************************************************* + alot more to say as i cant swear

posted by (2010-04-12 00:51:11)
CommanderKeen avatar@ menahunie
Much of what you say is true and yet the US health bill is about helping those who are unable to help themselves, so is not a bill about making money or power.
The UK DEB is totally different, but I am not concerned because as soon a it comes into use I will be signing up to a good VPN, like Hide My Ass, or Cryptocloud, or the free Hotspot Shield. It will be worth the small cash outlay just to know that the media and it's paid lackies, the politicians, won't be able to find me!
I am surprised more people in the US, with all the problems they are getting with blocked sites, and 3 strike letters, don't sign up to a VPN, which encrypts all your traffic so even the ISP's can't tell what you are downloading.
I am sure in the next 12 months, or so, something will be produced in the torrent world that will overcome all that the backward, non-techy, politicians can think of.
Good read Sam great to see you keep up with all that goes on wherever it may be!!! Maybe you can post a full introduction to VPN for those who don't know about it????

posted by (2010-04-12 01:00:44)
CommanderKeen avatar@ jeepers1982
Completely right!
Without the massive p2p downloads why would any of us need such high bandwidth. I used to use a 56k modem and that was plenty of speed for basic comunnication. I even did my shopping by going to the High Street, rather than over the internet. So if the media companies, and Governments, carry on with all this control, and censorship, then how many of their great plans for technical advancement will be delayed, for without a need there is no necessity for developement.

posted by (2010-04-12 01:44:32)
katep avatarone thing I dont get about this bill hope someone can help in the debate for what it was worth they said that the isp collect are data and then give it to the music and film companies that have there copyright broken that has to be illegal right how can they give are details to companies in other countries

posted by (2010-04-12 02:38:25)
No avatarRecieved a letter from the Houses of Parliament yesterday (from my local M.P) regarding this and I quote: ' With respect to individual internet users the Bill does allow their internet connection to be cut off if illgal downloads can be traced to it. But that process can only be activated by the secretary of state and Ofcom following a process that would take around 2 years - and even after disconnection a consumer would be free to sign up with another ISP the next day without penalty'.

He went onto say about the 'frankly unconstitutional clauses' which his party got thrown out which prevents the Government 'changing copyright law by SI whenever they wanted'. Any sites that are to be blocked will be made by legal challenge to the courts paid for by the copyright owner - which isnt good as we all know who the authorities will side with!

One final point which I think is the most important, there are ways around any blocks ISP's plan on certain sites - theyve been trying to do it with underground hacking sites for years - so dont panic! Read up on how to do it and MOST importantly not get caught!

Long live P2P and file sharing, the b**tards will NOT beat us!!!

posted by (2010-04-12 02:50:58)
No avatarForgot to say that even if the record/movie companies manage to get a site blocked all it would have to do is repoen with a different domain name and then they would have to go through the whole court process again to shut it down which costs thousands. Anyone who understands the British legal system knows that a) it takes forever a b) it costs a bomb!

So whats new? Thats what happened with Kazaa, piratebay, napster and the like. Now we have ET and even better sites to feed off and share......They will learn eventually they cannot win and might listen to consumers who would gladly pay a monthly fee (say £10 a month) to D/L legally! I mean who in their right mind pays £15+ for a DVD nowadays - they need to wake up and smell my hard drive filling up with their films haha!

posted by Blocked (2010-04-12 06:52:47)
Gaspode avatar"MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED so you can VOTE"......sorry but this is one of the most commonly held and incorrect misconceptions about freedom and democracy. Not one person died to allow me to put a tick in a box on a ballot paper, nor did any one person die so I could be "free". They died for that most basic yet powerful freedom....the freedom to choose. To choose to work or not, to live or not, to marry, to eat, to drink, raise children, to smoke......and yes to vote, or not and to be honest, my grandfather survived the Somme and if he saw what the UK has now in the way of politicians he'd chase them up a tree and set fire to it.

"SO if you did not vote you have no right to whine and cry over what's happening."..sorry but we have EVERY right to whine, freedom of choice again you see. If you don't go to the cinema because you think all the films are rubbish, does suddenly going there give you a stake in what films are made? Does it give you the right to contact film company execs and ask why such a scene was so poor? I think not. If I decide not to vote it could be that there is no-one who is worthy of my vote and considering what it has cost, and yes I do say that act of voting has cost a great deal over time, maybe we should all stop and think before wasting something so valuable as the freedom to choose who gets this small yet powerful thing called a vote.

posted by (2010-04-12 07:41:53)
mard1980 avatarstuartthfc i like your post, you have got a point there, i would gladly pay 10 quid a month to download all the films i could

posted by (2010-04-12 13:56:54)
katep avatarGaspode

yea they did die for you to be able to vote in a free country do you think the nazis would have had voting if they won world war 2

posted by (2010-04-12 18:15:12)
No avatarcan they tell the difference between an illegal game download and a game legally bought from a download shop ?

posted by (2010-04-12 20:04:06)
jsnod25 avatari might be wrong in this, but in order for them to block a transmittal of data through the Internet, would mean that they have to prove that your downloading data that CAN be blocked. Also, they would have to start disconnecting you from the thousands of peers who are seeding you that data. If that was possible to begin with, then the simple preventative medicine is to prevent them from determining that your transmitting that data. Same thing happens in the US already. if i dont protect my identity to those monitoring data transmittal then they will shut off my Internet COMPLETELY (until i call and complain), and if i do it 3 times, i lose my ISP permanently. This of course has never happened to me, because i use "PeerBlock" which is currently blocking more than 10 billions IP address's that are trying or want to try to see what im doing, and now they can, and i can download peacefully. I suspect the UK can use the same tool to protect themselves as well. ALSO Google will never block search result's, just look at what they are doing in China because of that?!?!? not gonna happen.

posted by (2010-04-12 21:02:10)
warthog1972 avatarwill peerblock not keep out prying eyes then?????? pls reply back

posted by (2010-04-12 21:29:16)
No avataron the issue of voting - correct me if i m wrong but the american people are going crazy over a bill that will help more people seek treatment for the illness' they have without have to worry whether they are going to get the right treatment for fear of cost !!!! any human being on the planet who thinks that it is right to prevent people being treated is a cold heartless person i wouldn't want to meet at least your president is acting on behalf of the people that need it.

Whereas in britian we have politicians who claim all sorts of illegal expenses, tell us that if a man / woman breaks in our property that we haven t got the right to protect ourselves for fear of prosecution and they all claim to speak for the people when not one of them is really a working class individual and they tell us we can t download when most of the people who do this are on low paid jobs and can't go out and buy every new cd and dvd that comes out.

I am going to vote just to keep one party that i don t like out but they are all lying cheating overpaid scumbags.

posted by Blocked (2010-04-12 21:34:26)
Gaspode avatar@ katep..... they did not die to allow me to vote, only to choose....i could choose to live where i'm not allowed to vote...and your comment regarding the NSDAP is pointless as they gained control of and consolidated their hold on government by the ballot box though subsequent electoral and referendum voting was corrupt and flawed so yes the nazis had voting.

posted by (2010-04-12 22:10:40)
No avatarJsnod the way it works is these companies post a film or music song/album. Once youve connected to them to download they read youre IP Number and trace that number to your ISP and report you. Most companies use static numbers so youre more easily traced! What happens next depends on your ISP!

Mine here in the UK disconnected me once and wanted me to write a letter admitting guilt. I told them to sod off and threatened them with breach of contract due to them disconnecting me as they had no proof that i had breached their terms & conditions - they had the word of a company which has no more power then you ringing them and saying ive downloaded a song you sang and its illegal! Its ridiculous! They reconnected me near enough straight away after id been into their offices and kicked off - annoyingly it was a Sunday when this happened - isnt it always the same so I had to wait til the Monday!!!

Also in the UK you are entitled to a back-up of anything you buy - forget the new b*llsh*t that some companies say about backing up films, theyre breaking copyright law and chancing their arm if they say you cant! They WILL lose!

In terms of Peerblock and the like, it does work to a point BUT if theyre determined to catch you then they will. The same goes for proxy servers - they can still trace you should they raid the offices etc where them servers are held! Its like having insurance using a proxy server, you have some protection BUT it doesnt mean theyll pay out lol.

My advice is never download anything with the words CRACK, SERIEL, KEYGEN or other words that quite clearly make what youre downloading illegal - I wont download CAMS as a result!

They cant stop downloading and those in the U.K with nouse will continue to do so and never get caught! What will happen is those that dont know better will be caught, made an example of and the rest will panic - well all those BUT those that know what theyre doing....Happy sharing :-)

posted by (2010-04-12 22:29:33)
scouse08 avatarme personaly going to try to stop my isp from traking my downloads anyway i can but if i do get caught doing so an get cut off is not going to make me go out and spend stupid amounts of money at the cinema or for a overpriced dvd for most of witch is a load of crap peace out to all at extratorrent the place to be now an forever

posted by (2010-04-12 23:04:08)
Rockman avatarOk i am confused why wouldn't torrent users just keep using peerblock; hotspot; its hidden etc what have i missed ! ? please pm me missing something here . . .

posted by (2010-04-12 23:35:33)
No avatarIf you are as mad as I am well try a new approach link to a site called www.handsacrossthenet.org The Goal is to link with a billion users who are like minded individuals untied with a cause it takes one another to support this campaign and truly show the world what true users of the Net and World are capable of. Only through a united effort can anything ever be done to change the world and Governments across the world. So I invite you to support us spread the word and it times to show the World we as a collective body are stronger then one. Peace to all Pirating wouldn't be en issue if not for such high prices at the box office and greed among the studio.

posted by (2010-04-13 02:33:44)
No avatarRockamn Peerblock is like any antivirus, they have a list of bad viruses and look out for any viruses on said list and prevent them from infecting your computer. Thats how Peerblock works, it blocks your I.P to listed sites/users so to speak and prevents them tracing you! So YES you are protected with Peerblocker BUT only assuming their lists are upto date!

A proxy server is alot safer! Im assuming youre not sure what a proxy server is, apologies if you do! But a proxy server basically allows you to connect to Extratorrent for example using another computer so your ISP only sees you connecting to the proxy server. Something like YOU---->proxy---->extratorrent! So long as you use a proxy server you trust there is NO way your ISP can trace what youre looking at...unless a)the place where the proxy server is help and b) they keep records which most dont! ALL youre ISP see's is you connected to the proxy, nothing more - youre using their servers to browse!

Finally, because I know I go on lol. If youre in the UK Rockman the problem wont lie with you having to cover your tracks mate, the problem with probably lie with the fact that ALL ISP's will block access to sites like ET. You will probably get the usual error 404 b*llox when you try to connect. Now getting round that is easily done but a very long story to explain lol :-) Hope that helped.

posted by (2010-04-13 02:40:14)
No avatara)the place where the proxy server is help = raided, confiscated by authorities.....Sorry, its late lol :)

posted by (2010-04-13 06:28:53)
No avatarThey should just stop being so greedy do you know how many people don't know how to use p2p and those who refuse to use it because the rather have the original case for a movie ( which is stupid to me) And think about how many people are in the world buying stuff there not losing much money plus there just making excuses to cover up all the other things there doing that's screwing up the economy and blaming it on p2p, think about it before job exporting nobody was focusing on p2p like that!

posted by (2010-04-13 06:35:42)
cyberartist avatarI dont want to add anything else here except thanks for this article and that the number of and depth of the replies and comments say even more. AUSTRALIANS - WE ARE NEXT. NZ is trying to get a similar bill through at the present time. And we have already given the nod to the Internet Filter...

posted by (2010-04-13 06:38:08)
BenjaWiz avatarThis bill changes nothing lmao there's always around things hahaha we're all human if it can be made it can be broken cheers.

posted by (2010-04-13 15:23:54)
No avatarWell I think the only way to get rid of them is ___________ ____________....

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