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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Sky Subscribers May Be Targeted over Porn Piracy

Sky Subscribers May Be Targeted over Porn Piracy

Sky Subscribers May Be Targeted over Porn Piracy

Added: Thursday, November 19th, 2015
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, www.extratorrent.cc, 2015
Some Sky broadband subscribers have been warned they may be required to pay a fine for illicit downloading of porn content. The ISP has sent notifications to its customers after it was required by court to hand over their personal details to rights company Golden Eye – the owner of copyright to many adult titles.
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This company, also known as Ben Dover Productions, have collected the IP addresses of users accused of illegal downloading of its movies and forced the ISP to hand over their real names and addresses. Three years ago, it did the same with O2 and wrote to its subscribers demanding a settlement of £700 per title as compensation. The company threatened to take users who didn’t pay up to court for their copyright violation. In this case, the infringers would have to pay lawyers fees alone more than £700.

Such behavior is known around the world as “speculative invoicing” and has been criticized by the Citizens’ Advice Bureau, which said that unscrupulous solicitors and companies acting on behalf of rights holders have taken part in the so-called “pay up or else” schemes. The agency cited some misleading statements of other speculative invoices trying to force recipients to pay up – for example, overstating the significance of the court order and claiming that the owners of an Internet connection hold responsibility for any copyright violation committed from it.

However, the Bureau also confirms that the letters from rights group are genuine, and that people should get legal advice before responding. The agency reminds that it’s up to the copyright holder to prove who has committed the copyright infringement, but the recipients must respond to the letter, even if they are not personally responsible.

In its notification to customers, Sky Broadband does not say that they should not pay the fine, but the ISP still advises them to “carefully read the letter”. At the same time, an intellectual property specialist warned that the defendants should think twice before fighting too hard, because the very fact that they received the letters means they did something illegal. The copyright holder will only have gotten details of subscribers that they can prove downloaded content. This means that the reasonability of the settlement demand will depend on how much they downloaded that infringed copyright content.


Posted by: 
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Date:  Thursday, November 19th, 2015



Comments (9) (please add your comment »)

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posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendET loverSupermanmen (2015-11-19 14:09:32)
analogkid6103 avatarWell isn't this something. They still have to prove that the named users actually took the content. And with wi/fi ect they would have to secure warrents to confiscate the computers, cellphones, kindals,(sic) laptops, padds,iphones ect.
So keep your wi/fi unlocked and or have an open guest account on wi/fi and whatever you do do not even admit to downloading anything.
Just act stupid and stick to it. Or else be ready to pay the piper.
Yes use a VPN but who knows how long they will work they are a crap shoot cause who knows what they are really doing with the data. There has already been lots of dramas with some of them and it's not a happy ending.
When it hits the fan is when you find out, so act stupid and be careful.

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posted by (2015-11-19 18:04:52)
Linkiss avatarCan i assume this is all happening in the US? I personally never heard of "Sky broadband" as an ISP.

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posted by Turtle (2015-11-19 18:46:54)
BaBaDapper avatarSky is deffo a UK ISP which till now I thought was quite pro-users privacy.

But analogkid I'd hate to have an unsecured wifi I mean other people could DL whatever they wanted - like really bad stuff such as child abuse/porn. Then what happens to you after the police turn up at your house and take all your tech? I think the suspicion you would be under would overflow into real hate crime.

So sticking with my VPN and encrypted wifi - which thinking about it could be cracked anyway, so couldn't you just claim that it had if you get involved?

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posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendET loverSupermanmen (2015-11-20 10:16:58)
analogkid6103 avatarBaBaDapper@

If you have CP on your hdd or iphone or laptop ect. you would be in deep trouble. How ever if it passes through the air and you did not receive it nothing would happen.
If the the pathway is criminalized then I imagine that the IP would have far more trouble than anyone else. Say for instance that some one hauls a truckload of criminal contraband down the highway, So do you cite the road builder for the content transported?
A lot of peeps have a guest wireless for use by guests, other family members and friends of your kids ect. Cause everybody is constantly fooling with wifi devices of one sort of another so you are not gonna give out your PW to everybody and if there is wifi in the house the peeps will not stop whining until you give access thus the guest account and it gives you reasonable doubt which in the states is all you need to either hang a jury or be acquitted by it. Either way you win and they lose. But if you have no open wifi then you only leave less room to move if you receive a notice/letter or summons.
Anyway thats the story and Im sticking with it lol.

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posted by Turtle (2015-11-20 16:29:48)
BaBaDapper avatarHumm but from what I've read for copyright, people just get warnings or offers to settle out of Court without anyone actually looking at their PC stuff. So I'd guess if my IP was flagged for CP or terrorism etc (which people could do as a prank) they would come down on me even harder. They don't need to find anything on my PC/ext HDDs/flash/sd/cf cards/cds/dvds the Police taking away all my gear is too much to risk for me.

So my hopes rids on my VPN and my tactics of torrenting off and on in little bursts - staying mobile with different IPs.

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posted by Kitty (2015-11-20 19:20:42)
Daewoo avatarI got a letter when I was with O2. They sent a load of computer printouts which nobody could understand to baffle you. Then the next Letter orders you to delete (whatever) files, then demands you pay money for each infringement. (£700 per film) But to sweeten the blow they then offer a discount (£350 per film) if you pay promptly.

I sent a letter back stating I never heard of (film name) and that I did not download it. I then asked for the names of those who did download the file. Whatever you do DO NOT PAY THEM A PENNY. They sent another letter threatening court action and asked whether I was bringing a solicitor with me to court (Written by a person with low I.Q.) I again asked for the names of the downloaders and told them If they failed to give me the names, then this was my last communication on the matter and I'll be pressing for my time and court fees to be compensated.

DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION as all they have is an IP address and the account holders name. Confirm NOTHING. I never heard from them again as they don't know who downloaded the file. And no court will convict without that information. Do not incriminate yourself by giving out info.

PS I did not download said film so their proof is just smoke.

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posted by ET junkieTurtle (2015-11-22 01:17:27)
kidcanvas avatarfreedom is gone

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posted by Turtle (2015-11-22 16:45:19)
BaBaDapper avatarHey Daewoo, just who did you get a letter from? 02 themselves or another party? And where were the other party based. UK, Europe , USA ?

Would have loved to see those computer print outs - to see just how they go about their deeds.

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posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendET junkieET loverSupermanSun (2015-11-22 21:54:48)
bone111 avatarSky is crap a ripoff and to slow just throw the notices in the bin



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