Hurt Locker Producers sues P2P UsersAdded: Friday, May 14th, 2010
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The producers of the Oscar winning picture, "The Hurt Locker" are preparing to file lawsuits against thousand of p2p users who downloaded the film. The lawsuit could be filed as early as May 12th.
The group that released the film, Voltage Pictures, is working with the Washington DC based U.S. Copyright Group to handle to lawsuit. According to a lawyer at the firm the numbers could reach into the tens of thousands if not more.
You may remember the U.S. Copyright group as they were the ones who filed massive lawsuits on behalf of 10 other films including "Far Cry" and "Call of the Wild 3D." This lawsuit will be the largest for the group and will also include other Voltage Picture release such as "Personal Effect."
A key point in this lawsuit is that, according to lawyers at the firm, they have about 75% of the ISP's involved full cooperation in handing out personal records of their (the ISP's) subscribers. According to the group the other 25% are resisting due to the amount of work involved. Once the lawsuit is filed the group must file subpoena’s requesting the ISP to turn over the records of suspected downloaders. Once the suspected downloader has been identified they will be sent a settlement offer letter. If they do not respond they will be sent a second settlement offer letter with a promise of litigation if they refuse to pay. No word as to the amount of the proposed settlement.
The main contention is that pirated copies of the film took away box office attendance.
Once again p2p users are being used to explain poor box office performances. The Oscar winning film grossed about 16 million in the US with an estimated budget of 11 million. (If memory serves me this movie was barely even shown in theaters and I am not even sure if it was shown in theaters local to me at all.)
On an ironic note the screenwriter, along with the studio, was served with a complaint that he stole the main character. The screenwriter, Mark Boal, was embedded with Sgt. Jeffery Sarver and a bomb disposal unit in Iraq and wrote a piece for Playboy titled "The Man in the Bomb Suit" based on his time with Sarver's team. Sgt. Jeffrey Sarver claimed that story behind the hurt locker was his story.
Sgt. Sarver claims that the situations portrayed in the film are identical to actual experiences he went through and that he even coined the phrase "The Hurt Locker." Of course Boal denies the accusations and claims the characters are purely fictional. It will be interesting if that lawsuit goes anywhere or if Boal will accept the settlement offer letter....
May 14th , 2010Posted by:
Friday, May 14th, 2010
|was a good film, but like you said, i dont recall it in theatres close to me either, maybe was but i didnt hear of it. ThanX for the info.|
|THX conmac863 & SaM I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FILM IN A MAGAZINE, AND YES I DO AGREE WITH SkYnEtCeNtRaL GOOD FILM|
|It opened in 4 theaters (against Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince) and was not in any real number of theaters for another month. The most theaters it was shown in was 535 (by comparison Bruno opened in 2,700 plus theaters) and was up against Harry Potter, Transformer 2, Ice Age- Dawn of the Dinosaurs and Public Enemies. |
I mean come on Year One opened in 3,000 theaters and was complete garbage. Maybe if the producers had tried to market the movie and actually tried to get it into theaters it would have made more money. It was not the p2p community that killed sales.... It was lack of marketing on the production companies part.
|posted by (2010-05-14 18:50:45)|
|They should of released it sooner then. Idiots, it was in the Venice film festival in 2008 and I saw it before I heard anything about it in early 2009. It didn't get to theaters for 11 more months. Who's fault is that? They were just trying to wait until the end of the year so the awards buzz sold tickets for it. Tough shit to them. Learn how to hire a marketing strategist instead of blaming P2P. Spend some money like Avatar did on marketing and you will make a killing in the box office. I sound like I'm just adding on to conmac863's comment but it's 100% true.|
|Yeah,it seems that in the trend now,when a movie doesn't makes millions and millions and millions and a few more millions of dollars,the file sharers are the ones to take the blame,knowing perfectly that if a movie is good anyone will go to the movies instead of download it,or even both!!!|
|they can send offers all they want doesnt mean we are paying crap|
|posted by (2010-05-14 22:18:03)|
|i know this movie did not play in my area so the only way i could see it save for waiting for the dvd was to download it. was a decent movie but if it went up against hairy potter and the rest listed in comment #3 of course it would never have made money|
|dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dling|
|posted by (2010-05-15 02:19:14)|
|Thanks conmac863, Are the 75% of ISP's they are talking about in the US or all over the world? If it is the world, there reach is not that big at this time. There trying day by day, but there not there yet.|
|This is such crap...they should be thanking the people who d/l'd this. At least it saw some sort of popularity. Thanks conmac863 and SaM...nice post. :D|
|So will i be sued for this? im kindda worried|
|I don't know about america but in Canada to sue someone in small claims court(the price of a movie ticket seems small claims to me) you have to pay like $100 for paperwork and court fees. Also you have no guarantee of winning. Therefore if america is similar they'd have to pay $100 dollars for each person they want to take to court. If 50% of people getting this letter pay them then if would give them money to take the other 50% to court. If no one pays them or even opens up a line of dialog with them(just burn the letters and pretend you didn't get it or it wasn't applicable to you) they could hardly afford to take everyone to court. not worth the time or money. They might just be feeding on your fears and shaking you down for money like the mafia.|
|Okay people lets see now.|
Hmmm a suspected "down loader" is going to get a letter of extortion from the MPAA for what?
A Claim and all it is a claim of DOWNLOADING a file?
No legal proof the "down loader" did in fact download the file in the claim and have it in their possession?
SO if I understand a "down Loader" being screwed by their own ISP is going to again get a extortion letter demanding what? Thousands to settle... AGAIN for an alledeged downloaded file?
BBBBWWWAAAHHHHAAAA if that is all and the "down Loader" is found guilty for not paying the market price for a movie ticket because THAT IS ALL THESE FREAKIN AHOLES MPAA CAN GET FOR DOWNLOADING A FILE and they HAVE TO PROVE AGAIN THIS FILE IN THEIR CLAIM IS A REAL FILE meaning "The Hurt Locker Movie was really downloaded. They THE MPAA would have to kick down the "down Loaders" door and sieze the computer involved and THAT WOULD TAKE A SEARCH WARRANT WHICH THEY CAN NOT GET.
We all know any file that is "down Load3ed" allot of time is from lamer butmunchers who take a porno movie and retitle it say THE HURT LOCKER...
BBBWWWAAAHHHHAAA - I can see it now in court. The MPAA lawyer grabs the ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED FILED TITLED THE HURT LOCKER, and with allot of pomp and bluster slaps it in the DVD player infront of the jury - hits paly and screams SEE HERE IS THE PROOF OF THE DEFENDANTS GILT.
Soon you herr ooohhh aaahhhh huh huh huh given it to me baby oohhh yyyeeeaaa ffffeeeellllsss sooo goooddd.
Sorry I was foaming at the mouth a little there; but the point of all this is the MPAA can go and sukmukdik.
|I wonder if they sent out letters to 50,000 people and no one paid what would happen?|
Would the Court System really want to add 50,000 cases to their dockets?
Would the producers really pony up the money needed to sue 50,000 people?
If it only cost them $100 for each suit that is $5,000,000 right off the top.
And from my understanding the producers really only make about 30% of what they recover. The rest goes to their lawyers.
Legal Blackmail. Pay up or else.
They may take a couple of dozen people and actually take them to court and sue but even that is dangerous to them as if they lose the cases do you think anyone will be scared into paying. Proving you actually downloaded the movie is more that an ISP recorded IP address.
|thanx for the read, some good comments too.|
If the marketing ppls spent more on advertising, maybe might have done so much better, now they blame the torrent and p2p ppls for the loss made.
|By the time I even heard about the movie it was out on dvd.|
|YES, I did download the film. NO, I won't pay you shit for it. So send all the letters you like bitches!|
|maybe it didnt make as much money as they wanted cause the movie was no where near as good as they think it was......|
|Check this out from Maximum PC:|
Time Warner Cable Refuses To Release Pirate ip Address-Too Expensive
Time Warner Cable doesn't necessarily have the greatest reputation when it comes to looking out for its customers best interests, but luckily for those who were unfortunate enough to try and pirate Uwe Boll's Far Cry 2 it will simply cost them too much to accommodate the lawyers. An independent DC legal outfit has requested the identity of more than 2,000 TWC customers, which in addition to exceeding their current staffing capabilities costs them approximately $45 each.
"Time Warner Cable does not have enough employees to respond to these requests. In a typical month, the company receives an average of 567 IP lookup requests, nearly all of them coming from law enforcement. These lookup requests involve everything from suicide threats to child abduction to terrorist activity, and the company says that such cases take "immediate priority."
The ISP's Subpoena Compliance team at Time Warner currently consists of four full-time workers and one temp who simply don't have enough hours in the day to honor all the requests. The company claims it currently has the capacity to handle about 28 non-critical subpoenas per month, which far exceeds the 809 in 30 days filed by the DC law firm.
One could argue that simply watching Uwe Boll's latest masterpiece is cruel and unusual punishment anyway, so the exact motivation behind the legal proceedings has us somewhat mystified. Perhaps they are hoping for a few glowing box quotes from pirates desperate to avoid a criminal record to help overshadow all the crummy reviews.
|posted by (2010-05-16 15:05:49)|
|hurt what and personal what ??? lol who watched this shit anyway. and why get compensated for shit movies, instead they should be just laughed at.|
|posted by (2010-05-16 16:23:47)|
|I don't know why all of you guys are saying this movie was bad. Their marketing sucked but I thought the movie was pretty good. Story was better than Avatar, they just didn't have the big budget CGI. Avatar would be straight to DVD release if it wasn't for the CGI and you guys know it.|
|Okay Here is a question?|
Some files are also being aired on TV; so you record it on your VCR or DVR to watch later. Are you then a pirate for having downloaded a file; yet it was provided by free air broadcast or via cable TV connection instead of a internet connection?
This question has been answered; yet from another article the MPAA is working very hard to get the power to BLOCK signals going to your TV. This means no more recording your shows on your DVR unless you pay for it.. I am very sure the manufacturers of this product should be up inb arms yet I have not seen anything FROM THEM ABOUT THIS...
|posted by (2010-05-17 04:04:42)|
|Maybe Im the only one but, I didnt think the movie was that great to begin with.|
Avatar should have got the oscars instead.
Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, etc were way better.
Attention Hurt Locker producers the people you sue, their families, friends will never pay to see another of your movies ever, so you only hurtlockering yourselves
|posted by (2010-05-17 04:09:37)|
|Sorry I forgot to say "F You Ehh"||
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