ACS Law Demands Accused Users’ PCs to Undergo Forensic ExaminationAdded: Saturday, May 29th, 2010
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The infamous UK firm ACS Law started sending out a questionnaire to people involved in its mass litigation campaign. The firm demands them to submit their computers to a forensic analysis, also confirm the details about users’ Internet connection, despite many of them may be innocent.
After receiving a refutal from the alleged file-sharers, ACS Law asked them to fill out a questionnaire and submit their computers to forensic analysis. The letters were sent out recently, asking accused users to confirm several facts: that they own the Internet connection; also explain whether their Wi-Fi is secured or not, in case they share the connection with someone else; and if they use any file-sharing software and for what purposes. Moreover, ACS Law asks users to give an answer to the last question without any legal counsel, which at least should be a cause for concern!
The last thing the firm asks file-sharers is that if the users are ready to submit their PCs for forensic examination.
Which?, the biggest UK consumer body, admits that these letters represent so called “bullying tactics” which ACS Law widely uses. Attorneys of Which? consider it outrageous for ACS Law to demand people to provide evidence which will anyway turn against themselves, especially because many of the alleged users may not have legal counsel. That sounds meaningless: if ACS Law sends a letter with an accusation to a person, it means that it has an evidence to prove the person’s fault. If the firm doesn’t have it, then it can’t be asking people to provide it themselves at the first place!
Which? gives an advice to everyone who received such a questionnaires to write back and restate their innocence. If possible, also to provide such evidence to prove it was not their fault. Of course, recipients should explain in the reply why they are not going to fill out the questionnaire, and one of the possible reasons may be an assumption that the data from it could later be used to prove the file-sharers’ claim of unauthorized exchanging rather than the innocence. There’s only way to it: the accused is always innocent until proven guilty.
Since there’s no any legitimate obligation for people to complete this questionnaire, users can just ignore all these warning letters. Actually, as far, none of the file-sharers addressed to Which? have got a claim filed from the anti piracy outfit.
May 29th, 2010Posted by:
Saturday, May 29th, 2010
|This is getting ridiculous, those law firms are using more time and money to go after everyday people who may or may not download movies; than they are to catch violent criminals, rapist, child molesters and murderers.|
They also make the false assumption that if someone downloaded 50 movies, than the industry lost 500$ (50 movies at 10$ each, in this example) which is almost never the case.
Most people would never have bought all of those, even if they didn't any internet connection at all. They would have maybe bought a few, here and there.
Most of the people I know that download movies still go out and buy their favorite ones, though not all.
Yes, millions of dollars are lost yearly and something needs to be done but, they are blowing this way out of proportions and go about fixing their problems in a very misguided way.
They are making a lot of people, myself included, feel like they don't even deserve for anyone to buy, or rent their movies anymore.
What exactly is their "just reward" anyway? If a movie makes 1 billion dollars profit, is it good enough? What if it's "only" 300 millions? should we jail the pirates for stealing money from the poor producer's pockets by viewing CAM versions?
I work hard too and I sure as hell would not want people to steal money from my salary, but I do not get paid 4 million dollars a year either.
This is turning into a rant, so I'll stop here. I should go out and buy The Hurt Locker and then turn myself in for being such a bad human being...
stealing from the multi-millionaires of Hollywood who only want to grossly over-charge me for sub-par entertainment so they can get a 7th Ferrari: what a disgrace I am.
|posted by (2010-05-29 14:54:45)|
|well what can i say i never allowed for MPAA ect to take screen shoots off my hd ect that again the law to gain acces with out asking so why can thye ect like it is now ? other then that they can suck my di..|
|well i will start by telling them to go taking a running jump........acs my arsehole.......thats an invasion of privacy...i have personal picture of my family and children on my pc....whats to say that they dont have any pedos on there staff......|
if fact let me be honest......you need a warrent to enter my property followed by and order to remove any property...as for me bringing my pc to you would be.....hahahahahahahahaha..i aint going nowhere.....idiots....
|..ck yip dito :)|
|try finding a laptop when its round my mates house, there are so many holes in their so called "Act". plus i live in a shared house, we've made sure it is insecure and the internet is in my landlords name. sorted.|
|posted by (2010-05-29 20:20:09)|
|haha what a joke all you have to do is just run disk defragmentor|
|What you are all missing is the demand to examine my PC. My response is F.O and get a warrant. They can not since their claim is mostly founded on an allegation. They want by demanding access to your PC is to GET EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU which they hope will then make their case against you.|
Here in USA that is the 5th amendment in the constitution.
The only people who can get a warrant for a search of personal or any property is by LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY Here in the USA and EVEN UK...
These a$$holes are not LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Also anyone getting a letter has to only have an accident with their hard drive oooppsss But I told my nephew not to put than damn magnet on top of my external usb drive...
|what they are doing is asking you to form their case against yourself. If your stupid enough to do their bidding them you should get tossed|
|posted by (2010-05-30 07:02:32)|
|I'm just waiting to hear about the person that did all they requested + then sued their asses into the stone age.|
|posted by (2010-05-30 12:45:58)|
|What a joke. I will erase my hard drive before they try to take it. Thanks for the story SAM. Maybe the money they put into these lawyers and companys would be better spent on making better movies. I took my wife to the movies to see IronMan, $21.50 for two tickets, $10 for snacks. I like IronMan, but not $31.50 worth. These prices are out rages. Thats why alot of people stop going to the movies. Make better movies, lower the prices!|
|asia is more a problem than the regular people that download things for their personal use.|
in asia, you can get dvds with 16 movies on them for a dollar and all sorts of music and software too. but no one is going after anyone in asia because the governments usually turn a blind eye to it, and the people are poor and dont have any money to be sued for. so instead, they go after westerners that have enough problems with bills, and their jobs or lack of jobs.
if you plan to erase your hard drive, make sure to format it and write onto it, there are programs that will write 1's and 0's to it.
|just say you have friends/family/client information on your hard drive and letting them see it would be breaking the laws of the data protection act.. if my internet connection is safe or not is my business, is it against the law for me to not have a firewall? would i get arrested if i forgot to lock the backdoor and someone broke into my house? if copyright owners dont want people downloading their stuff then 1) make it cheaper and 2) make it availible sooner.. would i have them in court if i paid my Â£6 cinema ticket and their movie was a pile of crap? oh and trust me thats happened so many f-ing times.. do they realise that alot of people "try before they buy" when downloading, i certainly do and there are alot of movies i own (legally) that i never would have bought if I hadnt seen it on torrent sites.. why dont the owners make them legal to stream after 2 months in the cinema, charge sponsers for advertising before the movie starts and say a small advertising break half way thru the movie.. there is alot of things they could do to curb piracy and even make money from the filesharers instrad of them being narrow minded and seeing red and going for peoples throats.. the industry needs to find better ways of protecting their products, you blame me for not having a secure internet connection, how about blaming yourselves for not having secured your movies/DVD/bluray/music/software properly.|
I hope your PC never gets Seized because you are so very wrong.
|Repeat after me! I will CONTINUE to ignore ANY warning about any of my PRIVATE P2P activity. I can choose who I share any digital file with, my choice!|
I am a private individual with my own private life which is NEVER any business of other people's business corporations.
So to all interfering 'nobheads', mind your OWN ****** business.
IGNORE THEM < IGNORE THEM < IGNORE THEM < IGNORE THEM !!!!!!
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