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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > The Pirate Bay Navigates To Ukraine

The Pirate Bay Navigates To Ukraine

The Pirate Bay Navigates To Ukraine

Added: Saturday, October 3rd, 2009
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:ET, Extra Torrent, TPB, Torrent, index, Database, Pirate Bay, Ukraine, Sweden, Server, Hosts, Location, .torrent
Earlier this summer The Pirate Bay's main internet service provider, Black Internet, was ordered by Stockholm district courts to end the support of bandwidth to The Pirate Bay. After a temporary shutdown of the site, it re-appeared using a host in another nation, far in Eastern Europe. Little did many know, that this location, would become a cesspool of threats from anti piracy advocates, and a swirling sauna of freedom.


Initially, after the Swedish courts had threatened hefty fines and possibly jail time to the ISP Black Internet, the owner Patrik Black had no choice but to conform to the media fiasco and remove all shuttling of bandwidth from TPB which was under heavy legal scrutiny. “It took just 20 minutes before the Hollywood companies telephoned the new host who took over operation of The Pirate Bay." stated Mr. Black. Black Internet not only suffered extreme denial-of-service attacks, by outraged followers of the bay, but also, received litigation papers to appear in court, against the IFPI and the MPAA, if he did not make the removal permanent. “I was threatened by the movie and music companies,” Patrik said.

Sweden of course, due to mounting heat from the advocates of anti piracy, would no longer be a centerpiece for The Pirate Bay, and it had no choice to look elsewhere for it's requirements. The Western Hemisphere, North America, was not even an option, and most of western Europe, was also out of the question. With not much hope left for a reliable replacement data center to host the website, smack in the middle of Ukraine seemed like the perfect location.

Many other index sites, are now using the Ukraine to host their websites. Extra Torrent in fact, is hosted in the Ukraine. The difference with Extra Torrent, is NO .torrent files are hosted on ET's servers, we have a protection in place that we only act as an index torrent search, and we are completely safe from any of the appropriations which are currently in conflict. The Pirate Bay however, is drawing fire for this move, as many legit site's within the torrent world that use this location, do not welcome the media fiasco that follows The Pirate Bay.

So the file sharing "pirates" of the world, have set sail for the infamous Black Sea, and now, they are still searching for a home, or perhaps, they have just come to plunder this "booty" filled glory hole in the Sea Of Azov. That remains to be told. Other sites use this area for their home base, including the ever lasting and controversial "semi-private" Demonoid. Demonoid has also been under fire in recent years, with many anti piracy advocates and groups attempting to "shut it down" and some nations entirely blocking the web site.

Again, the Slavic speaking nation is not entirely new to torrent sites, it's a deep and protected area, with less regulations than most European nations. Ukraine, is also has the second highest population of all the former Soviet republics. It as well has been named as one of the ten “priority countries” with “unacceptable piracy rates” by anti p2p outfits. Certain Western officials and entertainment industry advocates have lobbied aggressively to pursue this "piracy" as a crime.

Yet the file sharing which occurs in Ukraine reflect traditional features of the country's cultural heritage. What really stands out in it's history, are the Soviet Union's disregard for international copyright. Also cultural tradition of "Samizdat" which was historically a form of rebellious resistance against the government's monopoly on conventional reproductive methods. "Samizdat" was tied into the upheaval and modernization of Ukraine. The definition of "Samizdat" is that it's a key form of dissident activity across the Soviet-bloc, and individuals reproduced censored publications by hand and passed the documents from reader to reader, thus building a foundation for the successful resistance of the 1980s. This grassroots practice to evade officially imposed censorship was fraught with danger as harsh punishments were meted out to people caught possessing or copying censored materials.

Whilst analyzing Ukrainian opinions regarding piracy, studies seem to show that these factors influence overall decisions about the legitimacy of international copyright measures. Polls show that over 98% of Ukrainians do not believe in nor trust the controls on reproduction of information. Many Ukrainians also despise the coercive tactics used against the Ukrainian business, just to satisfy Western copyright holders. Comparisons of file sharing and "Samizdat" are are obvious to most because both mean that one individual transfers "protected" material to throughout an anonymous chain, without regarding control of copyright holders. BitTorrent effectively is the same procedure, and in both definitions, the the political meaning of the verb comes from participation in the process itself, as well as the files or protected material being shared.

So will The Pirate Bay be welcomed in the Ukraine, or will it be shunned as a Swedish based spitfire group which is doing nothing more than setting the kettle ablaze? That remains to be told. The one thing that most torrent indexers in this region must now consider, is having a back up plan, because the shit storm that The Pirate Bay brings with it, is sure to draw other legitimate BitTorrent search engines and torrent sites in this region, a heavy amount of backlash from the Western powers that be. This war seems to be going global now, and we can only hope that that The Bay goes down gracefully, and doesn't try to drag the rest of us down with it.

Saturday, October 3rd, 2009

Posted by:  Blocked
Date:  Saturday, October 3rd, 2009

Comments (19) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2009-10-03 10:34:51)
phoebeweb avatarThis is actually a very strange story, because - as others have pointed out as well - according to the whois, it is still in Sweden; at least at the moment.

posted by Blocked (2009-10-03 10:41:44)
No avatarA whois is very easy to prevent from viewing the the true locations. :D When you register a domain, you can either A) put a false location B) pay to appear somewhere else C) change locations afterwards :)

posted by (2009-10-03 10:46:02)
phoebeweb avatarIn this case it is correct. Click for yourself = thepiratebay

posted by Blocked (2009-10-03 10:46:09)
No avatarAlso in my opinion, The Pirate Bay should stay in Sweden and fight to the death there, and if they die off, they die valiantly. Them coming to Ukraine is only going to bring more attention to that area, which is not good for any other torrent site in this area. TPB is recognized globally and compared to "terrorists". This kind of media coverage for the Ukraine is just downright disgusting. Why take others down with you TPB? You are quickly losing the respect of the torrent world.

posted by Blocked (2009-10-03 10:48:27)
No avatarMy dear... You can easily change or redirect... but in any case, we do not know for sure if they are there yet, they are supposedly moving there. Yet I am very sure that they are not in Sweden right now, regardless of the proxy that they may have in place :)) Sweden will not allow ANY ISP to provide them with service.

posted by Blocked (2009-10-03 10:52:13)
No avataralso Registrar Status: Updated: 2008-12-07... so nothing coming out of this region is current. I would suggest that the IPv4 address which is in place is ran off a small hosting company still located there, or even a proxy.

posted by (2009-10-03 10:54:47)
phoebeweb avatarI'm just saying that I don't think that they moved yet, and even if they proxy the traffic still passes through Sweden at the moment.

I know that a move to the Ukraine will put pressure on other sites including this one. Nevertheless only Ukraine and Russia seem to tolerate torrent sites at the moment while the United States and European Union are determined to crush P2P.

posted by Blocked (2009-10-03 10:55:49)
No avatarBeing re-routed from this IP: to :))

posted by Blocked (2009-10-03 10:56:29)
No avatar@ 7 Yes for sure. They "democracy" powers of the world are iron fisted in the battle against all of us :)

posted by (2009-10-03 11:39:18)
MrPepper avatarVery interesting article :)

posted by (2009-10-03 15:16:47)
SnakeyB avatarThanks OBSCENE. I started out my day with reading the local paper then your articles, now I read your article then the paper.
Always enjoyable and informative.

posted by (2009-10-03 20:51:44)
JorgeMontana avatarI totally agree with you OBS.Great article bud keep it up.

posted by (2009-10-04 15:05:01)
IndieRetard avatarpretty wild stuff, planning ahead like that , moving around so quick to set back up , its like the movie " the sting" meets cia, rapid rapid, hopefully evasive

cool article

posted by Site Friend (2009-10-04 18:30:24)
magiccrack avataroooohh yes obs super article, least this site is in the place to be!

posted by (2009-10-04 18:49:38)
Whyisdaddy avatarWhy Don't TPB Mask the IP and Then Rotate it Through Public Proxy's around the world , Keep it changing and that makes it impossible to hunt down

posted by (2009-10-04 19:06:34)
tiboy avatardnt think the russians er the ukrainians will fold that easy.....

posted by Site FriendKitty (2009-10-05 03:18:29)
aSBo avatarbrilliant article thx & thx Ukraine :)

posted by ET lovermen (2009-10-05 12:50:53)
brods73 avatari cant understand why other p2p sites are having a go at the bay!! yea i understand there bringing heat to other sites but you should be sticking together...you all want the same thing(freedom for file sharing)

posted by (2009-10-06 00:29:05)
No avatarI Admire the TPB For fighting againts this "People"! File sharing is not a crime and no laws created yet to claim it is illegal. anti-piracy law should only work if these people sharing data are earning from whatever they're doing, but p2p sharing is a non profit technology. The Logic is like this, I bought something legal, paid for it and wanna share it to my friends, does it mean i cannot show what i have to my friends?do i not have the full authority of it when i acquire it originally in a legal way?unless if I sell it and earn for sharing this material then its something to be considered illegal. All torrents sites rules. Its for democracy! Freedom.! TPB is a reputable site and so is extra torrent! I know the "shit" will follow tpb if ever they come to ukraine, which is as of now the "SANCTUARY" for torrent sites. Lemme tell you one thing guys, tpb is not just fighting for their own site, its for all torrent indexing site. come to think of this if they will shut down tpb, one way or another and im 100% sure of this they will ,one by one shut down all torrent sites including the extratorrent. They will never stop until all "p2p" host is down to their grave. and in the future p2p and .torrent technology will just be a memory, its a fight and its now or never, if youre gonna be dead later then better die fighting than waiting for your end! all torrent site should help each other, the tpb needs your help and all the support that they can get from you guys. Because as I have said, if they will shut down TPB now, whos next? can you gurrantee that you are safe? heres something for you to ponder " DIVIDED WE STAND, UNITED WE FALL"...

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