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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > SIIA Arrested Craigslist Software Pirates

SIIA Arrested Craigslist Software Pirates

SIIA Arrested Craigslist Software Pirates

Added: Monday, May 31st, 2010
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Ridiculous Criminal Trials
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
SIIA (the Software & Information Industry Association) is the main trade outfit for the software and digital industries. It announced recently about arresting of 2 Los Angeles residents caught with manufacturing and selling pirated software with the help of Craigslist. Californian police arrested 27-year-old Huy Nguyen and 29-year-old Duong Tran, (better known as Sam Lou and Kevin Tran) on May 25.

The Los Angeles Police Department was working in cooperation with SIIA and some other software producers. It carried out a 9-month investigation of the alleged sellers' activity. Tran and Nguyen allegedly produced and sold thousands of illegal Adobe, Autodesk, and other companies’ software products.

Guys who thought that Craigslist was just an easy way to sell the counterfeit content, now find themselves in jail, also facing great financial penalties. This is a result of the digital industry's anti-piracy project, where it’s working on catching software pirates working on online marketplaces like Craigslist. This is supposed to be a warning to other people distributing software in a similar way, because their next client could be a police officer.

During the arrest, the police department seized unauthorized software worth $30 thousand and hardware worth over $6 thousand. As the investigation revealed, the accused had 3 PayPal accounts, achieving the success by collecting over $40 thousand only via PayPal, as compared to the average cost of program at the rate of $30-$40 extra to any cash operations.

The accomplices were working from a Los Angeles apartment not far from Chinatown, where they located their highly organized laboratory and categorized lots of content titles intended for easier distribution. Besides, they marketed their products using regular customer coupons and CD sleeves of specific design. The scheme was easy – Nguyen and Tran downloaded a great number of software from BitTorrent tracker site Demonoid.com, then built cracked serial keys for the programs and finally burned the data onto Memorex CDs. The part of distribution has already been described: the guys would sell CDs in a case via Craigslist, along with the cracked key and perfectly comprehensible installation instructions.

Consumers are warned to beware of that kind of software which is sold on Craigslist, as it can be counterfeited or just non-working.

May 31st, 2010

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Date:  Monday, May 31st, 2010

Comments (14) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2010-05-31 11:15:33)
friskunr avataridiots selling on craigslist they deserved to get caught do they not read any online news they should know that craigslist is monitored by the cops like crazy when you do something as stupid as this you will get no sympathy from me lol but awsome read thanx sam i read all of your articles and find them all great keep up the good work

posted by (2010-05-31 11:50:46)
ic3m4l3 avatarlool

posted by (2010-05-31 12:35:32)
mork_blasphemy avatarIt served them well,selling is against all file sharing purpose!Share it don't sell it :p

posted by (2010-05-31 12:54:54)
SnakeyB avatarThanks SaM, I don't condone jail time for anyone unless it is a severe crime with people hurt physically, mentally, or sexually, or major white collar crimes/Virus producers. Putting a couple of Asian hackers in jail doesn't do anyone any good except maybe there "jailhouse roomies". With that being said, what these guys did goes against everything we stand for, "sharing is caring". They should be fined double of what profits they made, plus probation.
As mork_blashemy stated "Share it don't sell it"

posted by (2010-05-31 14:21:09)
ic3m4l3 avatarwell i do dvds and yep i sell them but only for wat it costs for dvds but these two are another level tut tut

posted by Site Friend (2010-05-31 16:06:49)
magiccrack avataryip thats what makes et special - sharing is caring! profiting from others ppls work is bad crack! they get everything they deserve

posted by Site Friend (2010-05-31 16:07:41)
magiccrack avatar@ comment 6 - edit: they deserve everything they get :) ooops. take care!

posted by (2010-05-31 16:55:09)
terrillcase30655 avatarI dont believe they deserve jailtime I agree with probation and a fine ..... I dont condone jail unless its something like murder,rape,kidnapping..... They did the crime so make them pay a fine...... People do crazy stuff nowadays with the economy the way it is..... I wouldnt have the guts to do it nor would I want to..... Long Live ET ...Sharing is Caring!

posted by (2010-05-31 20:40:53)
No avatarThese individuals need some jail time to think about what they have done. The fact they were profiting monetarily from other programmers hard work is abhorrent. I like SnakeyB's approach, though I think that sends the wrong message. That is being soft on them. If they have to come up with that kind of cash, chances are they will resort to what they know to make the money. @numberonedon, I don't even charge for the media disc, I just trade, you know tit for tat. When money is exchanged for pirated content you enter an area that is still undefined by the courts of law. I steer clear of it completely. Interesting comments from the members I enjoyed this one :)

posted by SupermanTrue Love (2010-05-31 23:12:00)
pizstol avatarwhy did it take them 9 months to investigate a no brainer of a case ? These guys (the 2 piraters) are idiots.

posted by Site FriendSupermanKitty (2010-06-01 02:11:45)
dragonmaze avatari just ask people to replace media most will just give me a couple of dollars sharing is careing selling is wrong

posted by (2010-06-01 10:05:28)
greigstar avataryou cant blame those guys really i guess if you get things for free and make money out of it then your gonna do it thats why so many people do it it's like taking the coins out of a wishing well your going to do it until you get caught morally it is stealing but your not hurting anyone except mpaa anyways i do it for the kids and free entertainment peace out!!!

posted by (2010-06-02 01:24:00)
Gorrog avatarAccording to the article the investigation took the police around 9 months and $40k were seized only on the paypal accounts. So, if you do some rough math you get to around $4.5k a month. To be quite honest what would you expect there will always be people willing to take the risk of making some fast cash. I remember when I started working during college I was getting paid $5.5 an hour as a lab assistant so I can clearly see the temptation making $4-5k a month by burning some CDs and DVDs.
There's always people that have to rely on piracy for a living and even if it's not a perfect example that's being set for our community it's sometimes the only choice.
I've recently seen a video about a child, from India, selling pirated books on the streets of Mumbai so he can go to school. Would you tell him he's a bad example for the community?

To be quite honest I don't know if being a pirate is so bad. What about software companies charging up to $1,000 for certain software products. When people buy software from pirates on craiglist they obviously have the need to support piracy. These days almost everyone is aware of bittorrent and it's possibilities especially when you're too lazy to download some software yourself and instead buy it pirated on craglist. Pirates only fill a gap that has to be filled between the big companies and the end user who might not be capable, or just too lazy or just too stupid to use the internet to get anything for free.

Because, at the end of the day why would you buy pirated software if you can get it for free?

posted by (2010-06-02 19:47:11)
robclev987 avatarmoron defenitely moroff than on

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