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US ISP Warned Pirates over Account Termination

US ISP Warned Pirates over Account Termination

Added: Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Right To Share
Tags:ISP, Download, BitTorrent, MPAA, RIAA, copyright-infringement, file-sharing, Torrenting
Time Warner Cable has amended its copyright infringement notifications, adding an interesting clarification to warning pirates of the standard "mitigation measures": the company now says that repeat infringers risk at least losing their Internet connection.


The US “six-strikes” program was first enforced 3 years ago, and its main goal is to educate the Internet users by informing them of pirate activities and pointing to legal alternatives. At the same time, both rights owners and ISPs have made it very clear that no Internet subscriber will permanently lose their Internet access under this program. But now Time Warner Cable has updated its standard copyright alerts and emphasized that persistent infringers may risk losing their Internet connection, email account, etc.

The ISP says that the infringers’ accounts may be terminated, which may also result in the loss of the email account at the ISP, along with other Internet-based 3rd-party services like Netflix.

Why did the ISP add the termination clause? Apparently, because of some recent developments. For example, there was the lawsuit between BMG and Cox Communications, where the ISP lost its safe harbor protection because it failed to implement a repeat infringer policy and was ordered to pay $25 million in damages.

Besides, various anti-piracy groups also turn up the pressure – for instance, the MPAA claimed that terminating the accounts of repeat pirates is “critical”. Meanwhile, it must be said that it is currently rare for US ISPs to disconnect infringing subscribers, as they usually believe that only a court can rule to strip a person of such an essential service as Internet access. Still, the MPAA wants the ISPs to terminate users who persistently infringe copyright, regardless of the availability of the court order.

The Internet service providers and copyright holders also continue to discuss the Copyright Alert System and the need for its amendments, and the issue of the repeat infringers will certainly be included in these discussions. Taking into account that the MPAA is one of the founding groups of the Copyright Alert System, the ISPs are likely to be asked to include this requirement in their piracy warnings.

Thanks to TorrentFreak for providing the source of the article.

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Date:  Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016

Comments (25) (please add your comment »)

posted by Site FriendET junkieET lovermenSunTurtle (2016-11-02 13:13:52)
Sammy1968 avatar"legal alternatives" Really? And Time Warner Cable no longer exists.

posted by Trusted UploaderSite FriendET loverSupermanmen (2016-11-02 13:49:54)
analogkid6103 avatarNot a good development

posted by (2016-11-02 14:11:15)
Harlocck avatarYeah I just knew that the merger between Charter and Time Warner was gonna be bad news all around. I'm surprised they haven't started data caps.

posted by Vip Member (2016-11-02 15:46:53)
bigturk avatarI have had 4 instances with Time warner on this subject. The first 2 were just a notice via email. The last two has been the shut off of the internet connection until you call there fraud/security number. I claimed dumb and stated it must have been neighbors kids the first time and also asked how you change a password on the network. The last time I had a service guy come out and change the password to hopefully satisfy their requirements. They want to see positive steps so it does not happen again. Even with Trust Zone engaged, I have gotten the last two letters and stoppage. The problem that I see is that if the Trust Zone server goes down, you are exposed. I saw that happen late one night when I was up and working. The other time I think is Time Warner esets their network for maintenance work and during that time it is open. I have even installed software that auto redias if the connection is broken. But that still takes a little time to do. During which i am exposed. What I did lately is to log onto OpenDNS.com and get assigned primary and secondary domain numbers that replace the time warner assigned IP domains in their wireless router. I have had this now for a month and even though I see a restart happenn, it appears with that last step to help me avoid prying eyes. I wish there was software that would bind the torrent program to the server that is being used in Trust.Zone. That way if the connection is lost then the torrent application would shut down. I would rather live with time loss than another etter from Time Warner.

posted by Turtle (2016-11-02 18:43:06)
BaBaDapper avatarBigturk you sound like you know more than me but...
No kill switch with Trust Zone?
I know Azurus (spell?) binds a VPN to itself and will only function with a VPN connection enabled.

posted by (2016-11-02 18:43:49)
No avatar@bigturk: There are several ways to ensure your torrenting stops after loss of connection from the VPN. Here are the two I primarily use. First, I set-up my unsecured internet as the Private/Home network, then set my VPN network as Public. Afterwards, I modify/add rules to the Windows firewall that will only allow my torrent client to have access to the internet when the current network is Public. Second, I use qBittorrent, so you can actually bind your torrenting to a specific network adapter, in which case I have it bound to my VPN adapter. So if I lose connection, it wont try to switch over to my non-vpn wifi/ethernet. Haven't had any issues and been torrenting like this for years.

posted by Turtle (2016-11-02 18:52:43)
BaBaDapper avatarSorry correct spelling - Azureus Vuze aka Vuze torrent client.

posted by (2016-11-03 00:10:46)
Admiral_Smith avatarTime Warner has a bunch of asshats working for their corporation. I believe if a person uses a business class account then they will not bother you. Why? It is for business NOT residential. They are probably threatening residential accounts.

posted by ET babyTurtle (2016-11-03 02:50:55)
notheotherone avatartime warner or spectrum or whatever they're calling themselves now can eat my butt like groceries.

posted by (2016-11-03 02:59:21)
Datashift avatarThey are Speed trapping. Datasizes give it away automatically, that is the unfortunate thing about the "quality" sizes, unless it is compressed lower again like multiple files of 500mb they will know it is a movie. Some files are 20 gig which is rediculas. The start of file sharing videos were originally storedd on things like rapid share and that is the point. What on the internet causes a straight size download like these. VPN or not just sniff one side and corrispond the servers on the other to speed an sizes. Everyone thinks they are being smart but they aren't 4mb and 8mb are large enough to be tracked as a normal cd quality file is only 4.32mb but hey those extra useless streams to overlay just like blu-ray just wastes space and draws attention. Want better quality, just run it through a program on your own system.Try this one, set your router to renew it's own ip address every 4 hours then your isp becomes your vpn and accountable.

posted by (2016-11-03 03:04:52)
Datashift avatarVuze is java related and can be compromised with one of those infecting scripts that they love for traking you with advertisments. Hope they otherside doesn't figure it out yet.

posted by (2016-11-03 06:39:27)
Crowley666 avatar@bigturk it's possible for you, to create a advanced in and outbound rule, with Windows Firewall, so that uTorrent (or other torrent software) only works when using the VPN... when the VPN falls, the torrenting app stops working, and that way, there's no more problems for you.
Eventhough there no need for VPN in my country (Portugal), I tried Trustzone because of traffic shaping, and I like to "test drive" it a bit, and tried that variation... and it works... if it falls, the downloading app also falls... when it reconnects, the downloading starts (slowly) to reconnect.

posted by Vip Member (2016-11-03 07:04:46)
bigturk avatarI should have mentioned that i am on a Mac and not Windowss. Running Mac OS 10.10. The torrent application that I use is Transmission 2.92. I have researched if binding can be done with Transmission and could not find anything. I am not really tech orientated so I have a tough time when people start saying use terminal to do X,Y, or Z. What i can use is the step by step instrutions that Trust Zone has in setting up their software. Screen shots and verbiage to walk it through. I know a little but I find out things from people mostly. The OpenDNS.com website to get the primary and secondary domain sounded logical so I did it. The open DNS states that not all cable modems this will work with. Mine with Time warner was on the ok list. If anyone could confirm I am safe or help me get safe, I would appreciate it. I think the next time they are going to cut my balls off.
Thanks in advance.

posted by Vip Member (2016-11-03 07:06:07)
bigturk avatarThe funny part is that there was an announcement that AT&T bought Time Warner. They own dish and then go buy TWC for billions.

posted by (2016-11-03 21:23:29)
No avatarHow much are you downloading? I've never used a VPN and I have never received a letter from Time warner in the 6 years i've been with them.

posted by Vip Member (2016-11-04 00:00:19)
bigturk avatarIt goes in spurts but sometimes a lot because of some of the large BRR files that i like. Relative heavy daily use.

posted by (2016-11-04 03:11:16)
TheSpider008 avatarin my opinion, the easiest (and safest) way to GUARANTEE that NO traffic passes over ISP IP when VPN fails is to remove the Default Gateway. My VPN provider showed me this "trick" before i joined them. (yes, they are awesome ;P ). i haven't received ONE letter from ISP since implementing this method. (Programs that "Kill" processes don't always work, as i still received a few letters while using them). since switching to this VPN provider, their "Kill Switch" (or "Network Lock" as they call it) is simply an automated/scripted process of Removing the Default Gateway.
After connecting to VPN: go to Network & Sharing Center, click the correct card under "Connections" (or click "Change Adapter Settings", find the LAN card or Wireless card you're using, go to properties, Double-Click IPv4 (disabling IPv6 recommended to help prevent IP leaks), delete IP listed in "Default Gateway" (will be your Router IP if you connect through router [ex.]), click OK. now, if VPN fails, all traffic will literally be UNABLE to go anywhere as you (essentially) just told the computer not to route traffic through router. if VPN is working, it's using the VPN's default gateway. SO, once VPN fails, close all programs you DON'T want exposed to ISP IP, then re-enter the Router "Default Gateway" [ex.] and traffic will resume. re-connect to VPN, and remove "Default Gateway" again to activate protection.

posted by (2016-11-04 07:55:03)
eyemanozzy avataranother way is set up a socks5 connection with your vpn via your torrent program . that even works on my mobile !!

posted by (2016-11-05 04:24:09)
IrishMcDaddy avatarWell we kept getting notices from Cox every week.. 4 of us in the house on the same wifi account+ god knows whos hacked in (wink-wink). We are all pretty computer literate and dl/ul extensively. It was becoming a real hassle to call them or do their lil online pirate education class thing so we finally got TorGuard with the 50% off coupon code so $40 a year we split $10/each a YEAR and it came with 5 accounts and a seperate Utorrent specific server and we havent had ANY problems since!! I dont work for or am getting anything from saying this but that VPN worked wonders for us and it was super easy to set up everything. No more isp notices no more account blocks. Just some fyi

posted by (2016-11-05 20:07:37)
No avatarHey former lurker here but registered just to post a response. I had similar issues as described above with 2 different ISPs. I then went to using a VPN (frootvpn) using their Stockholm portal. But the real trick was to take an older laptop and install the Ubuntu Linux OS on it getting rid of Windows altogether for this dedicated torrent machine. BTW, I got the laptop from a friend that wanted their photos copied off and then the hard drive slicked. I got to keep the laptop for my efforts.

After installing Ununtu Linux, I installed OpenVPN on it and set it up to connect to frootvpn. I connect using a simple command line in a root command window. Linux always remembers my past command line entries so I don't even have to remember the exact syntax of the command!

I then installed the qBittorrent client for Linux and under the advanced "options" settings I set this torrent client to only connect to the "tun0" network insterface.

I installed Firefox for Linux and the add-ons: Adblock Plus and Adblock Plus Popup blockers, and NoScript. I only allow javascript from sites I know and trust.

I also downloaded the checkMyTorrentIp.png torrent and always leave that "downloading". It never actually downloads but by checking the trackers tab of the qBittorent client I can see that my VPN IP is what is showing up to other torrent clients. The copyright spies use a torrent client themselves looking for US based ISP IP addresses.

Loading WhatIsMyIP.com in a browser tab is also a good test. You never want to see your ISP IP show up in either place.

Finally to stop DNS leaks, I added some lines to my OpenVPN ovpn file that tells Linux to turn off the local DNS servers while the VPN is up and performing a DNS Leak test only shows my VPN portal address not my local ISP address. Reverse DNS lookups are another way the copyright spies can find you out.

Occasionally my VPN will go down and when it does, my Linux laptop torrent traffic just stops dead.

I tried all the various tricks I know and have found with internet searches including "watch" programs and they are not foolproof at all. This has more to do with how Windows handles the TAP Tunnel adapter then anything else but also having a torrent client that allows you to set your VPN tunnel as the only allowable network interface is important. That is why I prefer the qBittorent client at least on Linux boxes.

BTW, my android devices are not any safer than Windows. I don;t have a Mac so I can;t comment on that OS but the Linux OS and the applications I described for that OS have proven rock solid for me and I would not bother to mess with any other OS at this point.

If anyone wants more detail I can provide it but all the tricks were easily found via Google searches.

Linux Ubuntu 14.04LTS
qBittorent for Ubuntu Linux
OpenVPN for Ubuntu Linux
Firefox for Ubuntu Linux (use Private Bowser mode for extreme safety)
AdBlock Plus add-on for Firefox
AdBlock Plus Popup blocker add-on for Firefox
NoScript add-on for Firefox

Acer Inspiron laptop with
Intel® Pentium(R) CPU P6000 @ 1.87GHz × 2 (Core 2 Duo)
8GB Memory
1TB hard drive

All I use this laptop for is torrenting...


posted by Vip Member (2016-11-06 02:48:44)
bigturk avatarWell all f my planning and trying has failed. I just got my 6th notice from Time Warner. They claim in their email "at least 6 occurances". I am so pissed that I am no longer running the bit torrent unless I am sitting at my computer. That does not solve the problem but really minimizes it a lot. I will keep trying. Some of the suggstions that have been given by some is primarily for Windows and I am trying to use those instructions to see if I can replicate on a Mac. So far no uck. Appreciate anyone that can help me on the Mac side.
Big Turk

posted by (2016-11-06 15:27:44)
jeremyhall2727 avatarI would change companies

posted by (2016-11-06 20:38:38)
No avatarCox started data caps late Oct.

posted by (2016-11-07 02:11:19)
No avatarFollowing on what eyemanozzy said, I have found great success using utorrent combined with private internet access as my vpn. You can setup utorrent to download only through the vpn on a secure connection. Search the web and it will show you how to set it up. I also run my vpn all the time on my computer, just to make sure. I have been using.this combination for 2 years now. No nastygram yet. $40/year is good insurance for the vpn.

posted by (2016-11-09 02:51:02)
No avatari dont need a stupid vpn since i have a dynamic ip address which means every once in a while my ip address changes

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