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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Anti P2P Group Claims Torrents Responsible For $1 Billion Revenue Loss

Anti P2P Group Claims Torrents Responsible For $1 Billion Revenue Loss

Anti P2P Group Claims Torrents Responsible For $1 Billion Revenue Loss

Added: Saturday, October 10th, 2009
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:File Sharing, Anti Piracy, Injustice, Lies, Protocol, software, Unjust, Industry, BitTorrent, BSA, insider, revenue, discrimination
In a world full of greed, it's hard to see the facts behind the myths that many succumb to. There are so many bogus claims from businesses seeking excuses for a recession based revenue loss, that it has become a daily trend to "blame others" for your company's losses. That trend doesn't seem to slow now, as The Business Software Alliance (BSA), which represents nearly two-thirds of all software makers in the fight against copyright infringement cases, has released a report claiming that over one billion dollars in software was shared just in the first half of 2009.

The Business Software Alliance (BSA) or The Bull Shit Association?

The claims, state that BitTorrent users are responsible for pirating software which could have accumulated over a billion dollars in lost revenue for the software companies, including software giants such as Apple, Microsoft, and Sun Microsystems. The BSA has stated that it was able to take down over 103,000 "copyrighted" torrents, that were being shared by almost 3 million users.

With a special technology they claim to be using, their "internet crawler" tracks and monitors various p2p networks, in order to issue "takedown requests". Every major torrent site knows only too well of these requests, as on almost a daily basis they receive claims to do just that, for various torrents that are in their database or just simply accessible from a pinpoint location on their index site.

Senior Director of Legal Affairs for the BSA stated in a press release this week, that "P2P networks are ideal for distribution of a wide variety of materials that can be legally shared with large groups and are a tool used by more businesses to enhance productivity,” she went on to state, “Unfortunately, P2P technology is also a favorite channel for software pirates who see it as the perfect channel through which to distribute illegal and potentially dangerous software. One of the great disappointments of this technology, for all of its benefits, is that it is now too often seen as the domain only for pirates and malcontents who place no value on the work of software developers and designers.”

So now torrent index sites are considered by these biased agents of fear, that they are a "domain only for pirates"? Sadly, this is not the case. I challenge Miss Blank to shoot rounds that aren't empty, and prove such an outright misinterpretation of facts, as BitTorrent is used to share information legally along the connections of it's peers, to others in the world who normally would not have access to this information.

I've stated time and time again the benefits of the BitTorrent protocol and how it far outweighs the cons of it's methods. The young man in Somalia whom is trying to access free and open source information for his online courses, of whom cannot access a library or database in his village due to the ethnic "cleansing" and urban fighting, can use BitTorrent to complete his studies and have a far better life than his parents and grandparents endured. BitTorrent is a tool used by many to overcome the "struggle" of their environments, and I challenge the BSA (Bull Shit Association) to dispute this.

Many from within the struggling inner cities of the world, only know so well how harsh their lives are on a day to day basis, and the advantages that the internet and file sharing offer those people, easily surpass the few thousand dollars that the industry insiders have claimed to have lost. I also would like to challenge the BSA to prove their claims of over a billion dollar loss, by posting the records and statistical data used to evaluate and assume this final number.

Where do they get these numbers? Do they assume that every individual whom shares files online is a customer lost, or a profit that the software industry could have made? If that's the case than we can dispute many ideals of the mega media behemoths. I am willing to suggest openly that over 75 percent of users whom do in fact download "copyrighted" software would never have had the resources or finances to purchase the software in a legit manner, let alone even if they did, would pay the outrageous prices that are being charged for the products which are overrated and overpriced. How many of YOU would actually pay $300 plus for the newest installment of an operating system from Microsoft for example, when in fact you can buy a laptop or economy personal computer new with a pre-installed operating system for that same price? Not that many of you I am sure.

The ridiculous claims do not end there, as statements from the BSA have shown. Miss Blank went on to state, Software piracy is a threat on multiple fronts. Pirated software can be a breeding ground for malware and can also open users up to crimes such as identity theft. Those who decide to acquire illegal software harm the economy and companies of all sizes. Moreover, those who engage in piracy open themselves up to civil and criminal prosecution..." an outrageous claim just like the rest. Those whom decide to acquire illegal software harm the economy and companies of all sizes, you say? How outlandish is that.

The reason the worldwide economy is being "harmed" as the BSA suggested is that corporate led governments and industry pressure upon them, have created a world where only the strong survive. It's a dog eat dog world right now, and the international financial markets and the dropping value of currency along with the increase in prices for products only further prove my claims. Unlike the BSA, I speak with logic, something that they apparently have never heard of before, or choose to totally ignore to further escalate their claims.

The one sided role of these organizations is sad, as in fact again it only continues to clutter the world with false truths of "how things work" and confuse those whom do not understand. Sadly most media outlets only produce and distribute their cases, without allowing the world to hear from the opposition. This is common in the capital driven world we live in, in oh so many variances of agendas of the government.

Imagine if when George Bush claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, if more and more major worldwide media outlets would have taken a seat with Saddam Hussein, and asked his side of the story? There would be no Iraq war, the economies of the West would not be in peril, and worldwide opinions of the US led coalition would not be tarnished indefinitely. Sadly, the corporations that control the media only shut out any opposition voices, and now we sit forever imperiled in the outcomes of our own actions.

It is time, that media and representatives whom oppose these multi-national corporations and insiders stand up and speak out, and allow the truth to be heard. Only then can a fair and balanced case for BitTorrent and file sharing in general be decided in the courtrooms of the world. As long as all the coverage that is spread throughout the world is one sided, however, we will continue to see thousands of unjust criminal cases, biased legislation in government, and out right lies being propagated by the industry.

The latest in claims from the BSA have stated that the same sites that allow the access and spread of software piracy, also spread malware, which is a ludicrous claim for anyone to make. They have shown graphs, that state that host these "copyrighted" works also eight out of ten of them are responsible for the spread of malware or unwanted materials to the peers to access them. I suppose when the facts cannot prove an anti p2p groups's claims, they turn to evil lies to help aid their "politics of fear". They must have been paying attention to the Western world's "war on terrorism", assuming that the scare tactics would allow their agenda to be believed by most. Yet again, I don't know about the rest of you, but when someone insults my intelligence, it only makes me despise them further, and despise them we should.
A wise man once said, "Knowledge is power, and without it none shall progress." You simply cannot claim to have "knowledge" without seeing the matter from both sides of the aisle, and clearly determining what is fact and what is propaganda, and then making a decision best based upon the facts. As long as they continue to blame their losses on simplified and manipulated information, there will be no justice.

In recent months we've seen tough legislation enacted against the citizens of this world, unjust and biased criminal cases, one sided opposition to file sharing, and even worse, outright lies being spread by anti peer to peer organizations. When will it end, many ask? It will never end, as long as the corporate agenda is not fully met, the little people of the world will continue to suffer from the daily invasions or privacy, loss of freedoms, and unconstitutional laws being perpetuated by those in command. It will only end, when the command is led by us, the people of the world, and we must stand up for our rights, and freedoms, if not just for us, for our children, and our children's children, for the future of this beautiful free planet known as Earth. United we stand, divided we fail.

October 10th, 2009

Posted by:  Blocked
Date:  Saturday, October 10th, 2009

Comments (17) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2009-10-10 06:52:19)
JorgeMontana avatarAnother great read OBS keep them coming.

posted by (2009-10-10 07:56:36)
bipolarsuxs avatarThey cant stop the truth OBS. You keep saying and I'll keep playing. I've even got my girlfriend to support P2P. KEEP THE GOOD $#It COMING!! Never Stop OBS you are our voice for P2P!!

posted by (2009-10-10 13:07:09)
xxVOIDxSURFERxx avatarAgree 100% OBSCENE , Since almost every major and middle ground media outlet is owned or paid for by the entertainment giants there's no way they would let the positive aspects of p2p to have any light shed on it.Probably could'nt get on radio even....maybe Howard Stern.. but they too are owned by record companies and you will find no sympathy from them either. Best way is to use what we know they cant contort and twist the real issue behind the glass walls of our televisions and the sounds from the radio. Thats right, right here, all over the web. With chat rooms, blogs, and joining sites that support your rights to show a strength in our numbers. I promise you there are more ppl sittin on the fence uninformed about this issue then are really against it, so if we can get our side of this out we stand a good chance of bringing those ppl to the side of personal freedom of privacy and exspession. Thanks again Obs, As always great stuff.

posted by Site FriendXbox (2009-10-10 13:15:15)
Z0R4N avatarThanks OBS for keeping us informed. UNITED WE SHALL STAND my friends!!!!! No one can win this war by spreading lies while knowing nothing on the matter. Our current political system is unjust and needs changes. I hope that we can open everyone's eyes and make them see the reality. That day will truly be a glorious one.
Long live ET!!!

posted by (2009-10-10 18:58:53)
Stinger avatarAllOfMP3's legality is controversial. It is licensed in Russia by the Russian Organization for Multimedia and Digital Systems, a license similar to agreements held by Russian radio stations. AllOfMP3 states that this agreement allows it to legally distribute music from all artists and all labels. This is disputed by most major record labels, which generally do not recognize ROMS or believe that it has the authority to distribute their works. AllOfMP3.com makes no claims as to its legality outside of Russia[2]. However it is accessible to visitors in all countries.

In 2005, Moscow authorities began investigating the site as a result of a formal complaint from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), who accused the site of "large-scale copyright infringement"[3].

On June 1, 2006, the New York Times reported that US trade negotiators have warned Russia that the continued existence of AllOfMP3 could jeopardize Russia's entry into the World Trade Organization[4]. This was reiterated by the United States Trade Representative Susan Schwab in remarks to the US Chamber of Commerce on September 28, 2006[5]. She later told reporters that "I have a hard time imagining Russia becoming a member of the WTO and having a Web site like that up and running that is so clearly a violation of everyone's intellectual property rights."[6]

Pressure from the IFPI resulted in AllOfMP3 being blocked by the Danish ISP, Tele2 in October 2006[7].

On December 18, 2006,[8] the RIAA, on behalf of EMI, Sony BMG, Universal Music Group, and Warner Music Group filed a US$1.65 trillion lawsuit against the site. That equates to US$150,000 for each of 11 million songs downloaded between June to October 2006, and exceeds Russia's entire GDP[9][10]. $150,000 is the statutory limit for copyright infringement awards in the United States.[11] Allofmp3 responded to the lawsuit saying "AllofMP3 understands that several U.S. record label companies filed a lawsuit against Media Services in New York. This suit is unjustified as AllofMP3 does not operate in New York. Certainly the labels are free to file any suit they wish, despite knowing full well that AllofMP3 operates legally in Russia. In the mean time, AllofMP3 plans to continue to operate legally and comply with all Russian laws."[12].

In May 2007, UK police arrested a 25-year old man on fraud charges for selling allofmp3.com vouchers on sites such as eBay and allofmp3vouchers.co.uk. The man was reported to be funneling money from the sale of these vouchers back to the owners of the site in Russia [13]. A statement in relation to this alleged transfer of funds to Russia was made by the British Phonographic Industry chairman [14].

In an interview with p2pnet, a MediaServices representative said "It is disappointing that United States Trade Representative Susan Schwab completely and deliberately mischaracterized AllofMP3.com. Furthermore, it is irresponsible to use AllofMP3.com as a negotiating instrument in an attempt to extract concessions from Russia in return for US support for accession to the World Trade Organization"[15].

In July 2007, a Moscow court ruled that Visa's decision to cut off payments to allTunes was illegal.[16]

In August 2007, Denis Kvasov, head of the company which owned AllofMP3.com, was acquitted of all charges stemming from copyright infringement prosecution. The prosecution was seen as a test case of Russia's commitment to fighting piracy, and was brought after EMI, NBC Universal and Time Warner lobbied for such prosecution.[17]

In January 2008 it was reported [18] that MP3Sparks.com and its associated web sites were being hosted (since December 2007) by AbdAllah Internet, a Turkish web hosting service which allegedly provides safe harbour for spam and malware[citation needed] operations as well as having strong links to the Russian Business Network[citation needed]. For this reason access to the AbdAllah network is blocked by some ISPs, including all UK members of LINX[citation needed], therefore blocking access to MP3Sparks as well.

On May 20, 2008, the RIAA dropped all copyright infringement charges against AllOfMP3.com.

there is hope

posted by Supermanimmortal (2009-10-10 19:13:35)
Big_A_Little_A avatarThanks OBS another well written great article.
Do the BSA not remember that in the days before p2p sharing came on the scene,that we still got out films/music/software etc free by other means,Copying from friends/copying and returning to store for refunds and the good ole shoplifting.
Now you tell me if p2p ever disaperears that we will stop getting what we want and sharinging it with who we want?
A big thanks to all thoose sharer and carers out there.

posted by Blocked (2009-10-10 23:36:41)
No avatarsharing copying goes back 200 + years ago when the first copy/sharing hwere made so its not new now they jsut wanna make money out off it

posted by (2009-10-11 02:03:39)
SnakeyB avatarThanks Obs another great read,
and thanks to the_sting for his read also.

posted by (2009-10-11 04:23:52)
altrntnam avatari'm sorry, but even if they succeed and wipe out or completely regulate p2p (something i don't think is even possible) piracy isn't going to stop. before i discovered the p2p protocol i was already a pirate. want the new movie? rent it at the video store (or get from the library for free) and copy it. new cd? again, take a trip to the library, make a copy. all p2p has done for me is made things available sooner. i would have still stolen it eventually. pirates existed before p2p they will exist after. we are just smart enough to utilize a very useful and versatile protocol like p2p, but we are hardly the only ones or even the majority. thanx Obs. sorry for the rant.

posted by (2009-10-11 07:28:53)
param avatarll its true in a way

posted by (2009-10-11 13:35:51)
bluepeas avatar...and thats 1 billion we may have saved =) hmm wonder if that's y the remaining Hollywood
Video franchise in our city just shut down? 1 Blockbuster left, and now my internet bill is sky high.
What the heck, they force us into file sharing!

posted by Blocked (2009-10-11 21:32:57)
SouLesS avatarYa know what else causes them lost rev? the fact 90% of movies put out today SUCK..lol but that cant be a factor can it? LOL

posted by (2009-10-12 17:12:28)
Crittersitter avatarGive Em Hell OBS. I'm as sick about all of this one-sided BS as you are. I am disabled and cannot get out of the house. The Bit Torrent keeps me engrossed and keeps my mind from losing all of it's capacities. I crave knowledge. It keeps me feeling alive. Thanks for being on the "little guys" side.

posted by Blocked (2009-10-12 21:58:29)
No avatarRecord companies can earn fortunes on pirates
A pirate hunter firm promises record companies that they can earn huge amounts of money to scare pirates to pay a premium price at 8275 per cent. song.
File sharers and pirates have for years blamed record industry to have a business model that is completely out of step with the contemporary. But now the German firm Digital Rights Solution ready with a model that can fill the industry's thin plate box.

DRS is a pirate hunter company that is hired by record companies to send a claim to the suspected pirates. If the suspect does not cough up a replacement right away, so DRS threatens to pull the suspects in court, where the compensation sum may be much higher. According to DRS's own figures, so pays 25 percent of the suspects right away, writes TorrentFreak.

so its what every who downlaod knows mpaa the new hunteting is earning hte money artist only 20 % if not even less

posted by (2009-10-14 23:57:14)
nobs68 avatarAll the big company's such as Sony have all been ripping us off for years, any ways and most of the stuff we download from p2p sites, we would more than likely would not go out and buy. We just like to download it`s addictive. On the other hand if they didn`t rip us all off we would probably go out and buy the DVD`s, The CD`s and so on. I do buy games though!!!

posted by (2009-10-16 14:20:14)
jobfinder avatarOBS I support p2p 100% But just yesterday I was contacted by my isp provider and warned about my downloading and uploading. I was told there is a 250 gig limit (not in the contract) per month and I exceded 650 gig. I was told If I exceed the limit one more time my account will be suspended for a year. I'm just a little man and don't know what to do?

posted by (2009-10-16 19:56:42)
Wedmaster69 avatarOBS your the man hope you never stop. P2P for life. ExtraTorrent.com till i bie.......;)

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