Pirates Blamed For Killing Popcorn VendorsAdded: Monday, July 12th, 2010
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The owner of Canadian record label says that the creative industry seems to be not creative enough to work out how to distribute copyrighted works online without being hurt. She also points out that when a person buys a music CD he’s just buying a license to listen to it.
Loreena McKennitt, a Canadian artist, composer, and Quinian Road record label owner, emphasizes the negative effects the piracy has on all the players of the entertainment industry – from performers and composers to popcorn vendors and printers.
The more number of unauthorized downloads increases, the more sales drop, she says. Moreover, it influences not only the composers and designers providing true creative works, but also a complex ecosystem of the expert part, including printers, studio engineers, technicians and administrative staff. All these people have been affected by widespread theft and distribution of copyrighted content online.
Artists today complain they find it more and more difficult to justify working out new ways for their consumers to enjoy their music online, because piracy makes them doubt that they will ever compensate their investment. Loreena McKennitt suggests the government to ensure the artists will be protected from doubts in the capitalist market. This can only be done by reforming copyright legislation intended to eliminate illegal competition.
Seems like McKennitt joined the team of those who can’t understand that all these measures wouldn’t turn users into paying customers. Therefore, they will most likely have little effect on peer-to-peer networks. The only result it can get is pushing people to shift from a less secure way of sharing files online to a more secure one. But Loreena McKennitt goes on, talking about the only real way for artists today to make up their losses, if not mention hawking T-shirts. That is touring all the time, which, however, is viable only in a limited number of specific situations and, in addition, creates huge challenges for artists having family obligations. Moreover, now parts of the touring industry also face their business erode.
The most surprising conclusion she made was noting how even popcorn sellers are doing their best to just stay alive. If there was no P2P, people would go to theaters more often and buy popcorn more, thus giving a chance to corn growers to make more money and buy better farm equipment! Since now you know that pirates steal from farmers, too.
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Monday, July 12th, 2010
|That's crap. I buy popcorn at the store to watch my pirated movies at home. Then I don't have to worry about sticky floors and I can have a smoke while watching.|
|WELL - YOUR FULL OF CRAP FOR STATING A LIE: Loreena McKennitt, a Canadian artist, composer, and Quinian Road record label owner, emphasizes the negative effects the piracy has on all the players of the entertainment industry – from performers and composers to popcorn vendors and printers.|
How is this a lie? Well very simple - she's most likely composes crap and people don't listen to crap..
Take RADIOHEAD - they prove what is being stated is just plain SH*T..
RadioHead released their album on the internet and ALL THEY ASKED WAS THE PERSON PAY WHAT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH - THEY DID to the Tune ( A little pun there ) of TEN MILLION DOLLARS IN ONE WEEK..
What6 is being missed is the crappy "artists" who continue to put out crap will be gone or they had better get their act together and start putting out quality "ART"..
|i agree with you 100% menahunie.........i don't think we hurt the industry at all. we are all consumers and I am sure we all pay for what we like. But we like to try before we buy most the time. There has been many of movies and cd's that I have come across that look good on the cover but end up being crap. And there have been many of movie I have seen thanks to this site I liked so much I had to go see it in theaters when If i didn't I would have never spent my hard earned money on the movie anyways. Bottom line is they just need to learn how to make money off p2p and they will do better than ever. They just wont cause it takes certain people out of the loop.|
|And on another point.........sales are down because the economy has tanked! Sales are down everywhere. Fast food chains are seeing a 5 to 10% decrease every month in sales. So if people cant afford to go get some cheap hamburgers how can they afford a night at the theater? Are they still going? Yes! But just not as often and being more selective on what they see. I too have scaled back my spending on all media not because I can get them for free but because we have to conserve also just to make it by during these tough times. Movie industry just don't think they should be affected by the economy.|
|Maybe they should lower the price of popcorn then! Fukn 7.50 for a bucket of popcorn is robbery if you ask me!|
|I would rather download a movie from here then pay 18.00 a dvd or frakin spend $50.00 or so at the theater cause ya got ticket price and refreshments and such. I prefer the free downloads better then wasting all that money good movie or not heh its a rip-off!! And yes you can buy a whole box of microwave popcorn for 3.00 and heck 8.00 for one bucket at the theater.|
|Is there anything they wont blame P2P on? seriously? popcorn vendors going out of business because of P2P? for years those vendors have been charging pathetic prices for "refreshments" at the cinemas, people have realised its cheaper to sneak your own stuff in when you watch a movie, i know, i do it myself, im not paying £5 for a shitty little bag of pick n mix when i can go across the road to the supermarket and buy the same amount of stuff for £1.. absolutely pathetic that they blame P2P for this. also on a similar not, UK users will remember when CD's and DVD's first came out, the prices we were forced to pay compared to the rest of the world especially the US where there digital media is usually much cheaper, the big companies didnt listen to us complaining about how we were getting ripped off but they dont like it when we rip them off.. popcorn vendors being killed off cos of Peer to peer pmsl|
|posted by (2010-07-12 14:02:25)|
|People like this think they are smart, but are actually stupid. They are stupid because they think they are smarter than the average Joe. Popcorn sales are down because they charge 10 Bucks for a small bucket. People are not stupid, they will not pay for something that isnt worth it. I even pay the over priced bullshit sometimes. 3 Bucks at Walmart and I have a whole family sized box. |
Whats really going on? These guys with all the money, trying very hard to rob you legally. How do we over price something and still force you to buy it? We make everything illegal. Pretty soon you wont be able to buy a screw driver, without someone saying, you dont own the screwdriver your just leasing it.
|posted by (2010-07-12 14:03:02)|
|when I buy a car do I just get a "license" to use it? what shit!|
|posted by (2010-07-12 16:26:58)|
|Wrong, wrong, wrong. The sell more popcorn...the more movies I watch the more popcorn I eat. It's a bonanza for the grocery/supermarkets. Everybody eats popcorn, you don't just go to the movies for it.|
|i make my popcorn on the stove with salt and lawry's salt. its yummo. dont eat microwave popcorn, its crap.|
|Maybe Loreena McKennitt don't sell CDs because his music sucks !|
|posted by (2010-07-12 18:00:26)|
|You gotta wonder at some of these morons "pirates are putting popcorn venders out of business" oh please it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact most of us can make better popcorn for a fraction of the price they charge for that dried up rubbish at the cinema. Coming next from this pathetic lot "P2P found to be responsible for cot death, global warming (all that burning of disks has to contribute), and cancer. Seriously if there was a serious argument against P2P this isn't it all i see are a bunch of company crybabys moaning because now we can find out stuff is crap before we buy and most of the so called talent is too damn lazy to put the time and effort in to make something worth paying for.|
|sooo are they saying sharing popcorn is illegal too now? if we buy a box of popcorn we can't share it with the person next to us? i don't know about everyone else, but i think society was wrong when we were growing and we were pretty much forced to share, now they say it was a bad idea....kinda like putting jesus on the cross i guess|
|posted by (2010-07-12 20:08:16)|
|Well first you take the lazy route and buy some microwave popcorn :) then you put a bar and a half of lindt 70% in a glass bowl on top of a saucepan of boiling water and wait till it melts at the same time you take a block of old fashioned soft toffee and do the same as the chocolate. When they have both melted you mix them together open your bag of micro popcorn and tip it in shake that sucker for a good half to one minute and wollah far better popcorn then you can buy at crappy cinemas unless your one of these faddy non sugar merchants in which case i dunno chuck a load of salt in there instead :D.|
|Rasax oh so that's why we download music....so we can try it before we "buy" it. Okay now I get it. I'll be back later I gotta go buy about 2,000 plus cd's.|
|posted by (2010-07-12 20:30:19)|
|If that represented a record label than it is no wonder that record labels are unable to come up with a idea how to utilize the internet as a new distribution channel. |
do these people think before they open their mouth or do they just blab stupid comments while they are high?
down loaders would buy your music if it is worth buying. look what is being downloaded an you find it is good quality music and the rest is crap you only get angry if you wasted you bandwidth on. imagine you would have bought that crap how angry you would be.
|not gonna feel bad cause some greedy ass in the industry has to drive a ferrari instead of a lambourgini......jeez|
|@DjInFeRnO....actually, stalin and hitler would've been like "eff this, that's our money biatches...now hand it over" and file sharers would win this war. cause they'd be backing us (for their own political reasons.)and the mpaa/riaa would be hiding in attics. where is socialism when you need it..:D (lol, was this one a little much?)|
|posted by (2010-07-12 21:42:29)|
|Sure it wasn't the price for that cheap Ass Pop Corn. 20 bucks 4 pop corn and cheep soda..lol|
|Ummmm what's a cd?|
|when I go to a movie I do not buy any of their over priced artery clogging fat producing shit anyway...OMG yes I do go to see movies at the theater....It is their high assed prices and their own health killing crap that is putting themselves out of business!|
|oh come on...whats this sht???next they are gona acuse p2p for the hunger in africa ,the aids and the cancer.i could almost see the article in a newspaper ,,waching pirated copy's of movies is the reason why so many ppl have weight problems,, lets be serious ppl..they suck....how many times did u go see a movie and it SUCKED??? last time i did was 2 weeks ago..it was some crap horror movie caled the hole(i know it was a horror movie but i laughed all the time lols) if they start producing some quality movies maybe we would actualy go to see the movie instead of getting pissed that the cam rip doesnt have good audio ..or the video is blurry or to dark(this is not intended to ofend the guys that risk so much to bring us the cam rips..dudes i respect ur work..ur the best..)the truth is...they hate it that the consumers can actualy chose what to buy...thats all...sory if i was to long|
|Its a load of crap anyways lol...But lets face it guys downloading movies or cd's good or bad if ya download a cd or movie and its good why would you go purchase the same cd at the store just cause ya liked it when ya have it free?? LOL I just keep the downloaded and enjoy it.....unless its like a truly awesome movie I mean the best lol|
I dont waste my time downloading just to view or test product before buying thats a waste of time.....But hollywood and artists still make their money......
|@terrillcase...finally someone who tells it like is....thank you.|
|SaveIt4later - TRUE to a point as well as Terrillcase655 also.|
Unless you have a wrap 9 broadband connection to "test" a file at a size rate of a DVD 8-9 GIG or a Blu-Ray up to 30 gig in size YOU WILL GO SEE IT if it is any good or buy it. There are great files and posters do a damn fine job of encoding; but a quality ver. size is a very big issue. Most P2P'ers don't have FIOS or a 11mbps line like some of use do.
I have bought a whole hell of allot of movies by "trying" before buying it. I won't go the a theater because it is just too expensive; explain to me MPAA why a family of four has to spend a minimum of $100.00 U.S. to go to a theater? I don't just count the ticket prices at $20.00 each $20x4+ parking 3.00 + snackbar goodies 20-30.00+ 100-120.00.
Hell we went to see Book of Eli - WHAT CRAP; the frackin trailer was better than the whole stupid movie - NEVER AGAIN as I stood up in the theater and screamed NEVER AGAIN WILL I PAY FOR THIS SHIT.. I really did that and there were echos in the theater also. Ever notice the movie trailers are most time better than the WHOLE MOVIE?
But to the point - the MPAA and RIAA do to you and I the CRAP and overpricing is BECAUSE THEY CAN.. Mnay posters complain they are ripping us off AND THEY ARE. Want to know how they can? BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY.. SAME AS BIG OIL DOES WITH OIL AND ENERGY.
Thing is a MONOPOLY is illegal - except for the powers to be MPAA and RIAA including the crooked politicians - REMEMBER THIS THIS NOVEMBER GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND VOTE..
Back to the point - These people the MPAA and RIAA see their MONOPOLY starting to slip away - the strangle hold they have had on you and I; INCLUDING THE "ARTISTS"..
How is this slipping away? Simple.. BECAUSE IF THE INTERNET AND P2P'ers..
ALL THE MPAA AND RIAA ARE? IS THE MIDDLE MEN IN EVERYTHING WE SEE AND HEAR... They are nolonger are going to be able to control this and THAT SCARES THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THEM - ALSO ALL THE MONEY THEY STAND TO LOSE, like the "artists Radiohead and others bypassing them and going direct to you and I.
Time are a changing and things are going to get very interesting in the next decade..
|wow menahunie...and I thought I was getting ripped off at $10.00 per ticket and free parking.|
|Errrm...I'm hungry.Peace E.T|
|heh I wouldnt care what movie it is i wouldnt pay $20.00 just for a ticket.....but anyways everything is overpriced if i download it here and decide I love the movie and want the extras I redbox or netflix the disc and copy it that way.....|
I hardly ever go to the movies too much money for a crowded theater when ya can watch a movie in comfort at home..... And music well if i here a song i like on the radio i just download it no sense in buying it ...... I know some people download and like it then buy it but why bother ya already have the disc why buy it?? heh for the colorful cover?
|posted by (2010-07-13 04:06:21)|
|Seriously! There are movies that can only be seen on the big screen with great sound in order for them to be properly enjoyed. ALL movie lovers would pay to go and see that kind of movie. But honestly. There is an industry out there that is just generating crap! All downloaders do is recognise the crap and not pay out good money to go to the cinema and watch it. Other than that most of us, if not all, pay to go see the decent movies that are not just another piece of generated crap. These hollywood wanna be's are being stupid and not looking at their own faults and blaming us for their failures. Sales of tickets and DVD releases of the good movies prove this.|
As far as music is concerned - as previously mentioned - RADIOHEAD proved all the music producers wrong who say p2p is killing the music industry, by selling millions of downloads generating them millions of dollars in one week alone. p2p users are a discerning audience the same as any other, and most of us pay for what we like and respect. What these idiot producers of music and film need to learn is how to garner our dollars rather than blame us for their short comings. If they were to concentrate more on generating a decent product and not spend their time on the losing battle of trying to stop p2p, then maybe they would consitently produce a product that we would want to pay for to see and hear. These producers need to alter their thinking and realise we are the future of music and film sales and learn to work with us, not against us.
|I nixed the theater years ago. More than half the movies were trash and the cost for a family of five was outrageous. I'm careful with my downloads. Audio quality at times is more important to me than the picture. As an audiophile for 45 years, my audio capabilities are above most theaters. Throw in a big 1080p and who needs a theater any longer? I remember when the industry tried to stop DVD rentals because it would make theaters obsolete and force them out of business. You wanna stay in business?? Lower your prices and quit making garbage movies like the Book of Eli, Robin Hood & Wolfman...|
Now to the important part: As a Neck & Throat Cancer Survivor, I can no longer chew & swallow popcorn. My question: In the past, when I did buy popcorn, did it just come with a "license" to eat it or did it include the right to digest it as well?
|Where do you live?? Heh they never tried stopping dvd rentals in georgia....Anyways I mean I love alot of the movies that are out or came out recently but still wont waste money at the theater.....I dont need a big screen to enjoy them :)...|
I would rather save my money for other things then buy dvd's or spend a 100.00 at the movies or spend $20.00 on a cd thats just me.... I can buy 100 CDR discs for $10.00 and 100 DVDR discs for $20.00 .... Dont mess with blue-ray I am satisfied with dvd....I am a simple person :) I dont care if the picture is so clear that they clame on blu-ray that ya can basically see the actor's pimple lol dvd is fine with me
|yeah now that I downloaded the Led Zepplin box set. I have decided I like it and I want to support them more. Should I go and buy the box set now?|
|heh thats up to you....I wouldnt buy it|
|the only pirates are he ones selling 90% ice 10% drink and over priced popcorn|
|posted by (2010-07-13 08:25:51)|
|OMFG Corn ?? |
what will they come up with next ?
they need to look at the Price of a Movie ticket or the Price of a New CD/DVD
then they might get a clue and know why people do what needs to Be done
SEED THE NEED !!
|posted by (2010-07-13 10:01:20)|
|Saveit4later i wouldn't know about music i am still stuck in the eighties have all the music from that time i love and am happy :)and don't download music i only download the odd movie. Yes if it is good i go to the cinema to watch it but i don't have the cash to spend upwards of fifty pounds to go watch total crap or a rehash of a film i saw ten years ago and so many of the movies that come out these days are great on hype and lousy on decent viewing. Same as my pc games if they are good and worthwhile i buy them legitimately but again there are so many released that are just copys of one type but might have a couple of new guns that i cannot afford 25 pounds for everyone of them released. Bottom line if they make quality and support it then i am happy to support them with my money and given we all have to earn our money is it really that unfair to expect them to earn our money in return for quality i don't think so.|
|Hollywood and such got all the money they need from back when i use to buy VHS tapes and such before dvd's the BOOM they were obsolete heh So but yeah if ya wanna support and buy thats your right....I personally am happy with not doing it...Even if i didnt download from here I would borrow or rent movies instead of paying the high dvd prices. I do however buy the movies I have grown to love like the halloween films or elm street or friday 13th flicks :)|
|posted by (2010-07-13 14:51:37)|
|Menahunie.....good point about Radiohead, more artists should go this route because even if your music sucks you will probably get people that will pay at least a $1 as a joke saying that's all it's worth ....but hey that's still money when you add it up.|
|posted by (2010-07-13 17:45:12)|
|i don't buy popcorn..i eat polystyrene packaging in the shape of an s. the taste is far far nicer and it's actually healthier for you and at the quiet point in the film doesn't get stuck and cause you to make the sound of someone trying to regurgitate a small dog.|
|@gaspode....polystyrene sandwiched together with what DjInFeRnO was talking about (marshed mallows) is a tasty treat, although i prefer bubble wrap. I have found, while people undergo surgery to lose weight by using balloon like digestive installations to make them feel full, bubble wrap is far less cheaper. :P....lol the "in the shape of an s" description is classic.|
|Gaspode - LMFAO; but hey? How do you think allot of people make polystyrene - in one end out the other heheheh.. Kinda crappy though....|
|very rarely would i pay to see anything at the cinemas, i have four kids one over 16 so thats a paying adult so if i take them all im in the region of £25.00 to pay to watch it then they say POPCORN add another &10.00 to that then drinks ect fook that basically £50.00 to see a film,toy story 3 from here £10.00 on munchies smoke all i want great night in:)|
|posted by (2010-07-14 18:41:52)|
|Hay guess I keep hearing what we do that effects these turkeys and cannot wait for the next story... Corn prices are going up because of biofuels use of corn which knock on effects is more expensive chicken and beef products. I have always worried about theater popcorn when they replaced proper butter for "buttery flavor". That stuff cannot be good for you so my excuse for downloading is to eat healthier popcorn at home. Also when my other half needs the lady room I can pause my HTPC whilst she has a relaxing break without fear of missing the important part of the movie. So I blame the greedy popcorn vendor who tried to poison me in the cinemas and besides all the salt I make Kettle Corn :) LMFAO wot will be the next story blaming us I wait with baited breath and a star and two points for predictions in this thread:)!|
|i said it b4 i say agen ppl dont get it its not the movie it self or the cd s its the crap like t shurts note books bed sheets toilet papper that they make the money off and yes concerts .hell in ATL the eagles were selling tickts to there show at 75$ + stones same thing T-shurts the cheep ones at 30$+ .I l broke out at the move spaceballs when yogert told them the real movie is from merchndiseing and he is right not th movie not the CD but the crap that they make HELL look at the games they make for the movies what 45$+ even if the movie sux they make KKs off the games. the only ppl getting boned here are US. The lame crap the big wigs say to put others down and make them look like there the ones getting poochd here .Its so ezy to fake the numbers we seen it b4 we cant trust nothing they say|
|Family Trip To Movie Theatre |
4x Tickets $34
2X large popcorn $12
4X Soft Drinks $14
2X Candy $7
Total $67 dollars ......It has gotten so rediculous i think i'll stick to just paying for the 10 cent blank media
|posted by (2010-07-15 22:36:00)|
|@ Nodurxshn Family Trip To Movie Theatre |
4x Tickets $34
2X large popcorn $12
4X Soft Drinks $14
2X Candy $7
Total $67 dollars ......It has gotten so rediculous i think i'll stick to just paying for the 10 cent blank media
they've been sticking it to us for the so so long and now there's and + if we wanna watch in 3d ,the way I see it; the movie house was never a place to get ripped of just a place to lose yourself for a few notes
|posted by (2010-07-16 02:47:17)|
|RiDiCuLouSLY HiLaRiouS !!||
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