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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Pink Floyd Band Manager Admitted It’s Waste of Time to Fight Piracy

Pink Floyd Band Manager Admitted It’s Waste of Time to Fight Piracy

Pink Floyd Band Manager Admitted It’s Waste of Time to Fight Piracy

Added: Wednesday, July 21st, 2010
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Ridiculous Criminal Trials
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
Within the last decade there’s been no shortage of opinions regarding illegal music downloads. The points of view were voiced by everyone – from ordinary citizens to record labels and mainstream artists, because everyone in our digital environment is now affected by the issue. The mix now includes the manager of Pink Floyd.


Peter Jenner, Pink Floyd Band Manager expressed some interesting comments at a Westminster eForum on the issue of music in today’s digital world.

His first idea is that the online world pushes the marginal cost of a digital music file to an essential zero, and that is simply an inescapable reality. The reason for this is the copyright law or a process of copying the law, i.e. trying to apply the law aimed at physical piracy to the digital one. Peter Jenner compare it to trying to develop airline legislation on the basis of rail network.

He is 100% right. Today, thanks to Cyberlockers, P2P and social networks, the cost of distributing a sample or a whole work is monetarily zero. It can’t be compared to shipping CDs from the other side of the country, as it used to be. Moreover, many other costs connected to music creation or distribution came to zero too, like the software to make music, including cracks to it and the database of the samples. In fact, the only cost of creating anything today comes down to one-time investment of purchasing a PC and an Internet connection.

Today things are different all the way. Without PCs and the Internet, current copyright legislation would make a bit more sense. It would affect the bootleggers around the corner, making them pay huge fines as they did it for a profit. But now people are able to get whatever content they want for free. However, if they like it, it happens that they purchase it legally afterwards. No legislation requiring to pay $2,250 for content that is sold for a dollar makes sense nowadays, and it’s the answer to the question why there’s so much controversy about such laws. The youth knows the only way to check out new music –downloading it off the web to taste. That’s because they just don’t know how it was before the Internet took off.

The only way to build sound relations between consumers and artists today is to develop appropriate legislation rather than applying the laws fitting for an old environment. Trying to stop people from copying is not a solution, but only a waste of time, money and resources.

July 21st, 2010

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Date:  Wednesday, July 21st, 2010

Comments (13) (please add your comment »)

posted by Blocked (2010-07-21 16:48:18)
minstrel avatarI gotta admit some of these people are making more and more sense, when artists and their management begin to see the light its a wonder why the establishment still clings to a business model that is only destined for failure and massive financial collapse.

Thanks for the read SaM....

posted by Blocked (2010-07-21 17:53:36)
MonsterTV avatarGreat thinking PF manager. :)

posted by ET loverSuperman (2010-07-21 17:58:22)
tonymengela avatarplain and simple bands like Pink Floyd get my money. I'll sample music then buy when its worth the money for perfect quality. why would I pay for some shitty band to listen too on a whim

posted by (2010-07-21 19:37:24)
twogurusindrag avatarThe entertainment industry is the only business I can think of where you're supposed to buy something and if you're unsatisfied you can't return it. If you don't like a cd or a movie once you buy it, you're stuck. They screw us with crap product, they screw the artist by taking all the profit, yet they complain when they get screwed. Also, prices never drop. We have to keep putting it to them until they come up with a system that works for everybody concerned, not just themselves. The record companies are the pirates.

posted by (2010-07-21 20:37:45)
chuckyd964 avatarshoot he probaly downloads stuff to, thats why he says what he says

posted by (2010-07-21 22:51:53)
CaptCosmo avatarInstead of spending their money fighting sharing technologies, why don't they invest in development of a "New Business Model" that is all Digital, before some one other than them grabs the opportunity? Study the way NetFlix is positioning themselves for delivery. Watch them, out of GREED, try to apply current regulation and watch them put themselves out of business. Spend millions and get a 3% return on Litigation? Back up the courts for how long? Their "Cash Dinosaur" will be extinct before then.......

posted by Blocked (2010-07-21 23:01:54)
menahunie avatarBefore this digital age we were able to "taste" as stated in this article.
To "taste" we either had to listen to it on the radio; or ecord it off the radio. Even that is still being don today.
If you wanted to listen to the "music" you went to the "record" store and in the old days went into a both and played the record or a little more modewrn put on a pair of head phones, pushed a button and listened to a sample. Yes even that is still being done today.
The coming of powerful P.C.'s and the internet has now made it more convenant to either download it and take your chances on quality; virus - main transport is mp3 files; remember the "LOVE BUG" virus?
Given today's increasing cost of going to buy a cd ( i Just bought one - YES bought one for 20.00 for the one song I wanted and had to pay for all the crappy other songs on the CD )..
The still rediculous Movie Ticket prices - my area 19-20.00 EACH, gas, and much more. It is more economical and cost effective to just sit down at your P.C. and SHOP; then have it delivered either by shipping carrier or delivered DIGITALLY..
Since the band manager states the cost is now zero? But it is not really; your time is worth something is it not?
BUT now since the "cost" has gone way down despite what the RIAA and the MPAA claims; prices should be more reasonable; but they are not due to monopoly on the market the RIAA and the MPAA have and are losing very quickly day by day.
Today's merchants; BIG BOX stores, and ALL stores realize they will have "theft", they call it shrinkage by either customers or employee's that work for them. So they figure that "shrinkage" into their prices.
The entertainment industry is the only business that refuses to do this; it is a given fact that this will happen.
So instead of designing a modern business model using the digital distribution they fight it every step of the way... They have this thought one we release it via digital we have NO CONTROL, that control is a FANTASY and their legal battles by suing the very customer's they count on a living proves it..

posted by Blocked (2010-07-22 01:15:30)
4uckAuthority avatari would've thought pink floyd would be amongst the bands leading the fight, since they were recording before the invention of the internet....and artists recording previous to the digital age would notice the impact the most. but i agree with minstrel #1. didn't sam have a previous article about the riaa only getting back 2.5% of the money they spent in litigation? they're fighting something that is controversial and quite possibly, both sides are right...and by fighting it in the manner they are....they're gonna end up sinking themselves financially. thanks again sam for another great read.

posted by (2010-07-22 05:48:10)
Bustakap avatarI was just talking about this with a friend of mine the other day.
We're not ripping off the artists, the record companies are.
They're trying to inflate their own profits by increasing the margins on items that they pay minimal labor costs for, i.e. downloaded content.
They spend more money marketing and suing, and that's where the profit losses are showing.
Bands these days are better off going to minor labels and/or trying to find distribution themselves.

posted by (2010-07-22 06:10:34)
K1LLJOY avatarThey either change there business models or they will be eliminated, movies,software,games, every form of media has now been compromised. They have screwed us for so long and now there time is over, its time for nothing but quality films,games etc to be made, if you want people to buy your sh** then your gonna have to make it high quality, look at Avatar people will spend money on high quality media. I think Inception will have the same result. You want your money record industry take it away from all those sh*ty radio stations that play the same top 20 songs over and over again. ITS TIME FOR ALL YOU MEDIA DINOSAURS TO BE ELIMINATED !!!!!!!

posted by (2010-07-23 06:00:04)
Bustakap avatarIt's kind of misleading to call Avatar 'high quality media', but yeah, you're right. :P

posted by (2010-07-23 07:31:00)
spiritchaser5150 avatarHow much better I would feel knowing that if I buy a movie cd or game and it no longer played correctly that I could take it back and get a new working copy.
What if I bought a game and next year the new system actually played it. Or I paid the $50 for a game and when it got scratched I could take it back and they would give me a working copy.
How many game have you bought and got home excited to play popped it in played for 10 minutes. With disappointment it never got played again.
And I'm sure when someone likes an artist and your cd gets ruined another copy was bought.
How many years before HD was available in broadcast were they selling HD ready tvs.
Hell the industry has been ripping off the artists and the consumer for soo long that I think at this time they are just facing their karma.
And now when an artist comes out with a new cd they play the hell outta the one good song the other 12 suck and by the time you get home you are tired of hearing the one song because its out played on the radio.
I guess that's why I am just a consumer and not a marketing rep for the industry.

posted by Vip MemberET loverSuperman (2010-07-24 13:01:21)
bubanee avatarSo let it be said so let it be written!
I got a good Pink Floyd Discography if you want one!.. lol

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