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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Metal Band Criticizes U2 Band Manager’s View on P2P

Metal Band Criticizes U2 Band Manager’s View on P2P

Metal Band Criticizes U2 Band Manager’s View on P2P

Added: Sunday, September 5th, 2010
Category: Bit Torrent Freedom > The Industries Of Records, Gaming, Software, Movies
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
Philly Byrne, the frontman of Gama Bomb is astonished that U2 Band Manager Paul McGuinness thinks introducing a “three-strikes” system to punish unauthorized file-sharer is better than bringing them to court, because both of the ways are a prosecution of the people musicians rely on. In addition he approves the idea of free content as a way to gain profit, and believes that the freely distributed albums help to get record tour profits.


Recently, Paul McGuinness, the U2 band manager, again criticized peer-to-peer networks in his article, and also offered there the solutions to the ailing music business. After the article came to Philly Byrne’s hand, who is Gama Bomb frontman, he was apparently astonished, saying that McGuinness was extremely short-sighted on the actions needed to be taken. The article, in his opinion, is filled with logical blind-spots, considering the current state of the industry. Although McGuinness has got the numbers right, the headspace went all wrong.

The first thing that Byrne criticizes is that while McGuinness admits that suing individual users is ineffective, he still advocates a “three-strikes” system which is “better” alternative. However, Byrne believes that disconnecting file-sharers from the web is just a persecution to the people performers rely on.

The next issue in question is the McGuinness’ claim that the record business can only have very little success in its attempts to “fight free with free,” trying to get revenues from merchandising and similar things, other than the listener’s wallet. Byrne pointed out that record labels even used to buy up merchandising companies to get a bigger cut of the action.

As for the inability of the music industry to “fight free with free,” Gama Bomb succeeded in this kind of promotion, providing a bright example of the opposite. The band understands that the only way to live out in our days is to stop perceiving the P2P as theft and look for the ways how to profit from it. Byrne can prove that free albums can be the key to success, because they can generate record tour profits by expanding the fanbase. The band recently distributed free copies of its 3rd album, and it was still selling no worse than their 2nd album. They also get paid more for gigs and manage to sell more merchandise. As you can see, the money is still made from music fans, but in the other way.

September 5th, 2010

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Date:  Sunday, September 5th, 2010

Comments (13) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2010-09-05 19:36:19)
mork_blasphemy avatarMetal dudes are always right ,eheheh:D

posted by (2010-09-05 20:41:17)
TheFearAgenda avatarI am 100% behind this man! Totally right.. would you rather have 10 people listening or 10,000? Come on now! Get ur shiit together!

posted by (2010-09-05 21:44:03)
CaptCosmo avatarAlthough I don't know if I have ever heard Gamma Bands Music, I do appreciate their front mans forward thinking. Philly Byrne, I am a fan of you now. Others who think like you need to be more outspoken and take action. I think it's time to stop feeding the massive & GREEDY Industry between me and the artists. The industries hands are much too deep into all of our pockets. Why support thieving middle men? If we get rid of them and their failing business models, both the artists and I will have more money in our pockets. Thank You Philly Byrne for you clear thinking and Thank You ET for the article. ET is the place! to be!!

posted by (2010-09-05 23:11:55)
DAPORTUGEEZER avatarall band managers are money greedy anyway...and dont really give a dam about the music...just the money..i also agree that having 10000 listening to your music rather that 10 is a good thng as some will at times buy the originals and will keep them forever....i will not lie and say i do not download...as this is the reason i use ET (best site on the net) but i lke to check out the music before i buy....and to be honest most artists choose to put 13 crap songs and one good song on a cd down to the managers....so why should i not be able to choose what songs i want not what they want me to listen to.......i may like a song on the album that was never released as a single......how do you fix that problem.....u2 is a great band...but come on..they have plenty on money and the manager steals also from them.....so why cant we

posted by Blocked (2010-09-06 00:54:12)
menahunie avatarThis band and other have confirmed that the "artists" only make money while on "Tour" - holding concerts.
The "albums" is what the RIAA - Record companies make THEIR MONEY..
SO what this means FREE Albums - NO MONEY FOR THE RIAA - Record Companies.
All albums have been are a form of advertisement for the "ARTISTS"
Look at Cher? She put out albums; but they were far and in between; but she was almost always on the road doing Concerts. She saw the light many many years ago.

Do I hear the toilet flushing on Record Contracts from some very very smart "artists"?

posted by ET junkiemen (2010-09-06 01:50:21)
4GET avatarok im a little confussed ; the other day i whent to a store and i stress this was a big branch outlet i bought the cd case looked fine . uhmm when i got home opened the cd i was shoked to fined it was a copy . i now this 4 obvious reasons ; so what are these managers talking about uhhmmm U2band manager in fact .so why do they grump when we are been done . thanks et thanks sam 4 the article . et the place to b.

posted by Blocked (2010-09-06 13:34:13)
2die4 avatarU2 are shit dont understand the hype over them who are they any ways

posted by (2010-09-06 23:40:29)
Brynn217 avatarUmm.. isn't every CD you buy in the store a copy of the master? They just have a better copy machine that can burn out CD's by the Millions and have their fancy image burned into the top? I mean, the actually cost once the factory is paid for in full is like maybe $.01 USD per CD since I know I pay maybe $.10 per for a stack of 100 CDS (on a bad day)... SO the CD's you buy in the store are pure profit for $15.99 each... some of that money goes to the store, some to the Artists ($23 out of every $1000 sold) who recorded it and the rest is the Producers/RIAA...

umm... makes me feel so bad..

posted by Blocked (2010-09-07 01:39:14)
phoenixcrash avatarRIAA, where do I start? The internet was introduced to the masses solely to bankrupt record companies (and you alike), and bring forward a new era where artists can promote and manage themselves independently. No longer can you charge $15-20 for some over-produced piece of crap (yes, I said U2) with two - maybe three - slightly appealing (catchy) tracks, while the rest is nothing but bullsh!t filler. No more looking to you for a handout (recording contract), giving you art for you to turn into gold. We don't even need your money to record our albums any more; There are hundreds of programs to run from any PC that will record whatever we want, even learning to mix and master our own tracks and put knowledge in the hands of those who can use it in the process.I've never liked U2, or any other band that makes an entire song where they bitch about SUNDAY. U2 sucks; past,present, and future (I've already placed money on the fact that, by the year 2014, Bono will have successfully blown everyone on the face of the planet earth).

posted by Blocked (2010-09-07 02:19:57)
menahunie avatarphoenixcrash - I agree 100 percent.
As we all have been saying and the RIAA, MPAA and others - THIS IS A FIGHT FOR CONTROL. THAT is what it has been all along. The money loss claim made by people, RIAA, MPAA is used as a scare tactic by them. A scare tactic that has really backfired since more and more people are learning how this corupt industry has been working for decades and screwing you and I out of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Much of that money has never gone to the screwed "artists"; now the "artists" with the help of the internet, Torrents, Techno savy people THEY CAN HIRE INSTEAD - WILL BE DOING THE SCREWING TO THE INDUSTRY INSTEAD.
Have you seen Record executives leaving the off rubbing thier ass? I have from the ramming and chewing done by the Record BOSSES..
What has also happened is the "artists" have screamed - I AM NOT TAKING THIS RECORD COMPANY SHIT ANY MORE..
I AM NOW IN CONTROL AND YOU ( RECORD COMPANY ) WILL DO AS I SAY... You don't like it? Then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

An "Artists" make their REAL MONEY by doing concerts; Albums are just an advertising medium for them. These Albums is where the record company make their money NOT THE ARTISTS...

As already stated in the posts these artists if smart and they are smart have shown they can and do produce their own CD's, book their own tours WITHOUT THE RECORD COMPANY..

posted by (2010-09-09 12:04:03)
KnightofDays avatarBanksy's street art and free music have one thing in common in that they are both illegal but tolerated. Making looking and listening a really cool thing. I truly believe that bands should increase their concert ticket prices. If we all just occasionally buy a cd or purchase a concert ticket .. then everyone will prosper.

posted by Blocked (2010-09-10 01:05:57)
phoenixcrash avatar@ KnightofDays: "I truly believe that bands should increase their concert ticket prices." - you, my friend, need to get yourself a helmet and go play some "foosball" because you are retarded. Ticket prices need to rise? Well, wherever your getting all this cash from, you can pay my internet bill this month. While you're at it, you can go ahead and pay Menahunie's satellite/cable bill cause, hell, you must be rich brother. There is a record station having a Birthday Bash that is coming to a city near me next month that I really wanted to go see; Drowning Pool, Five Finger Death Punch, ...and then, they mentioned two HORRIBLE things. 1)that the headliners were going to be Stone Temple Pilots, and 2) that tickets would be $45 (in comparison to $25 for the Birthday Bash before that). No doubt that this rise in ticket prices is in part the fault of the STP inclusion. I absolutely will not pay $45 to see some pieceofshit band that had a couple of "alright" songs back in the 90s. I'm not paying more for a ticket so that I can help fund the corporate machine backing them (or to help fund their singer's cocaine habit). But, KnightofDays can pay for the tickets and take Menahunie and myself (since you've got soooooo much money to throw around).

posted by (2010-09-10 07:42:28)
KnightofDays avatarNo not retarded phoenixcrash .. just your average every day starving muso

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