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ExtraTorrent.cc > Articles > Canada Called $5,000 Cap a License to Steal

Canada Called $5,000 Cap a License to Steal

Canada Called $5,000 Cap a License to Steal

Added: Friday, September 24th, 2010
Category: Recent Headlines Involving File Sharing > Current Events
Tags:ET, p2p, Torrent, Piracy, Peer To Peer, Network, Hackers, Internet, BitTorrent, Google, utorrent, bitcomet, extratorrent, 2010, www.extrattorrent.com
President of the CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association) Graham Henderson claims that that the proposed cap on non-commercial violation totaling to of $5,000 specified in Bill C-32 could mean that potential infringers would be allowed to go on the Internet, steal there all the hosted content (including every film ever made, every book, and every track),keep all this content on their hard drive, then admit their guilt and simply write a $5,000 check.

It looks like the Canadian music industry misunderstands a digital reality of these days. It recently complained that the proposed Bill C-32’s (Copyright Modernization Act) stipulated $5,000 maximum fines for non-commercial rights violation is not sufficient to deter possible infringers.

Although CRIA appreciates that the government finally decided to address the problem, it still thinks that the infringers may opt for downloading copyrighted content and buy off the litigation by simply writing a check for $5,000.

Graham Henderson believes that once this copyright legislation is passed, people will be given a right to steal all the creative content located in the Internet in exchange for $5,000. The most outrageous fact, he thinks, it that all this money will go to the first copyrights owner, while nobody else would get a penny. Henderson literally calls this $5,000 cap a compulsory license for people planning to steal content.

The only thing CRIA fails to provide is an example of the user in their right mind which would be ready to purposely set off on a $5,000 downloading spree. This amount is not that small to attract people to unauthorized downloading, especially in these days of economic downturn. If Recording Industry Association believes the bill should be more protective of the creators, what amount can they suggest to be enough? Twice as large? Twenty times? Many would be curious where they expect to find people ready to spend this money on digital entertainment content. Seems like CRIA is sure that infringers can’t wait to mortgage their houses to pay for precious content which costs hundred times less if they buy it legally.

Actually, it doesn’t matter if this would be $5,000 or $500,000, as both these figures the average citizen can’t afford. As for the industry, it still refuses to think clearly and prefers to complaint.

September 24th, 2010

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Date:  Friday, September 24th, 2010

Comments (10) (please add your comment »)

posted by (2010-09-24 18:17:00)
Brynn217 avatarUmm.. seems that $5k might even be able to end up on the credit report as a garnishment... so irregauardless of the amount, if you happen to avoid jailtime and legal fees, then yea!!.... I think I'd prefer a $500,000 fine that way when I file Bankruptcy, there is no question if i can afford it or not...

I'm just trying to think... lets see.. going to see a movie saves a family of 4.. umm.. 10-12 per ticket avg price in this area... so, say $40... then Popcorn and drinks.. say another $40.. so thats 80... that means $5000/80 is 62.8 Movies.. so even if you cut out the food and only pay for yourself that would be about 500 films... so downloading in excess of that is well over the 5k limit... I guess they think we ALL download at our max bandwidth all the time... if that is the case.. yeah, I can say $5k is a low estimate for the Recording Industry....

posted by (2010-09-24 21:50:47)
arrimmapirate avatarIn Canada, bankruptcy doesn't get rid of court awarded fines. you'll still end up paying for it.

posted by (2010-09-25 01:30:32)
No avatarthanks for the info sam

posted by Blocked (2010-09-25 13:30:43)
menahunie avatarSo I guess we would just pick and choose what is downloaded; but they will have to prove their case by providing the file in the dispute and prove they got it from the person.

Looks like they hope to get a warrant and raid some one's house to sieze the computer and then get their hard evidence.

As I've said before; a person I know keeps their "files" on a external hard drive in a degaussing box; any load thumps on their door and a switch is flipped hmmmmm no more files and no more evidence; they even have the OS drive on and external usb drive in the same box.
Yes it is slow to boot; but they aren't playing games on THAT computer; just file storage.

A friend of mine just mostly uses torrent to get their favorate TV shows they missed; yet when you do this YOU ARE A PIRATE.
Also you ARE NOT A PIRATE if you record those same shows on your TIVO, DVR ( They are trying very hard to get a law passed to stop that), VCR. That is all LEGAL UNDER THE DCMA... Go figure..

Another point is I believe that a copyright holder loses that right when a movie or song is played on the radio or show on T.V.Why? If is a free air broadcast and the radio doesn't make any announcements before and after a song it is copyrighted and you can not record it. Just think what radio would be like if a DJ has to say that for EVERY SONG THEY PLAYED.. TV is a little different; but they show the copyright at the end of the show.
See the previous; recording a movie to watch "later" is legal under the DCMA; now things get confusing doesn't it?

One posting that you can't bankrupt from a court judgment isn't really true since this judgment is "unsecured Property - like a car, house, etc.)
Unsecured creditors are the creditors, whose claims are not guaranteed by some security in bankrupt’s property and do not have priority under s.136(1) of the BIA. If the property of the estate is insufficient to compensate all unsecured claims, the property is distributed proportionally to unsecured creditor’s claims (pari passu principle in s.141 of the BIA).


posted by ET junkiemen (2010-09-25 14:59:38)
4GET avatarthat is so true'i never looked at that way but now that uv said it . a couple of years ago a certain satalite brodcasting company distributed HD recorders for free to their customers and as you know on thease things u can record movies live tv events ect ect and store them on the box. now there are millions of people havem correct me if im wrong but does that not make them the company and every person who has one a pirate.but they chase the file sharers instead.thank sam good read

posted by (2010-09-26 01:12:10)
darcman avatarThe cap should be 5 cents and even thats to much
some movies that you download are so crappy, the producers should pay people to watch them!!
What if I download some tunes that I had bought years ago in cd, cassette, record, or even 8 track form
I should be fined? The CRIA and the record companies are the real crooks!!!
How many artists have been screwed over by record company crooks.....what goes around comes around

posted by (2010-09-27 04:56:05)
No avatarok ive bought 500 or so movies in the past legally when times were good. this is pretty much the only way me and many others can afford to watch what we want when we want in these times of economic downturn. honestly i don't see myself going back now. it's similar to the bootlegging days in the early 1900's. they've forced us into criminal activity. if i get caught so be it. til then i will continue to share as fast as my little processors will let me. nothing personal just business.

posted by (2010-09-27 14:02:09)
No avataruntil they get rid of all religions
and legalize marijuana

i am not taking no laws serious
so they can go fts

posted by Turtle (2010-09-28 03:03:54)
julio99 avatarI totally agree with #7 and #8. They can go eat a big pile of steaming s__t!!!

posted by (2010-09-29 14:17:37)
orion007 avatarI think Canada may be the new home for some major BT sites, I heard a rumor that Oink is re-launching from Canada on Haloween? anyone else hear anything? They do have something up oink . me that would be cool

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