ExtraTorrent.cc - The Largest Bittorent SystemLogin   |   Register
Latest Articles
Most searched
Hot torrents
First Cams
View Torrent Info: The Fate of the Furious 2017 HD-TS x264 AC3-CPG
View Torrent Info: The Boss Baby 2017 720p HD-TS x264 AC3-CPG
View Torrent Info: Before I Fall 2017 HDCAM 700MB x264-DiRG
View Torrent Info: The Belko Experiment 2017 HDCAM 700MB x264-DiRG
Hot torrents
XVID DIVX
View Torrent Info: Cyborg.X.2016.BRRip.XViD-ETRG
View Torrent Info: The.Amityville.Horror.2005.BRRip.XViD-ETRG
View Torrent Info: Only for One Night.2016.HDRip.XviD.AC3-EVO
View Torrent Info: Instant.Death.2017.DVDRip.XviD.AC3-EVO
Hot torrents
H264 X264
View Torrent Info: Wanted (2008) 720p BluRay x264 DTS Soup
View Torrent Info: Get.Out.2017.720p.HC.HDRip.XviD.AC3-EVO[EtHD]
View Torrent Info: Rings.2017.1080p.BRRip.x264.AAC-ETRG
View Torrent Info: Hacker.2016.720p.BRRip.x264.AAC-ETRG
Hot torrents
BluRay, 4k UHD
View Torrent Info: Mine 2017 Bluray 1080p x264 DTSHD 5.1 -DDR
View Torrent Info: All.We.Had.2016.Multi.1080p.Blu-ray.x264.DTS-HD.5.1-DDR
View Torrent Info: Paterson 2016 Multi BLURAY 1080p x264 DTSHD 5.1 -DDR
View Torrent Info: Rings.2017.Multi.BluRay.1080p.x264.DTS-HD.MA.7.1-DDR
Hot torrents
Television
View Torrent Info: Into.the.Badlands.S02E06.WEB-DL.x264-FUM[ettv]
View Torrent Info: The.Leftovers.S03E02.HDTV.x264-FUM[ettv]
View Torrent Info: Madam.Secretary.S03E19.WEB-DL.x264-FUM[ettv]
View Torrent Info: Guerrilla.S01E02.WEBRip.X264-DEFLATE[ettv]
View Torrent Info: Thoppil Joppan (2016) Bluray 1080p x264 TrueHD 5.1-DDR
View Torrent Info: Janaan (2016) TVRIP 1CDRIP x264 AAC 2.0 [DDR]
View Torrent Info: Norm Of The North (2016) x264 720p BluRay Eng Subs {Dual Audio} [Hindi ORG DD 2.0   English 5.1] Exclusive By DREDD
View Torrent Info: Oh My Friend (2011) 1080p Bluray x264 DTSHD 5.1 -DDR
30s
Chat
To add new messages please Login or Register for FREE
Warning! Protect Yourself from Lawsuits and Fines!
Your IP Address is 54.159.73.215.   Location is United States
Your IP Address is visible to EVERYONE. Hide your IP ADDRESS with a VPN while torrenting!
ExtraTorrent strongly recommends using Trust.Zone VPN to anonymize your torrenting. It's FREE!
Hide my IP address!


which vpn providers really keep secrets


Post a Reply    Subscribe to Topic    
AuthorMessage
smallz avatar
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 22:59
Author:
Though ridiculing as "scrubs" critics claiming all the LulzSec'ers used the same thin and ineffective anonymity screen as the accused "Recursion," who the FBI arrested yesterday for one in a long line of data breaches at Sony, one of the few surviving LulzSec'ers is calling for a boycott and ultimately the destruction of the VPN service whose records the FBI used to identify Cory Kretsinger as Recursion.

All users of HMA should close their accounts immediately as they do not respect privacy concerns of users using their VPN.– AnonymousSabu, Fri. Sept. 23.

Hidemyass.com, which Kretsinger allegedly used as a proxy service to hide his IP address, but which turned its server logs over to the FBI after receiving a subpoena, "cooperates with law enforcement agencies fully and admit it. They claimed they did not log, but apparently log everything," AnonymousSabu tweeted earlier today.

Though its privacy and terms-of-service statements might have been stronger when Recursion signed up, for at least the past few months HMA has been clear that it does save data on what customers do online and will turn it over to police with the proper warrants or subpoenas.

Server activity is "logged for a maximum of 30 days, these are logs generated by the Apache web server which include your IP address and date/time of all files and websites accessed through our web proxy…We reserve the right to cooperate with law enforcement agencies who are investigating criminal activities from abusive web proxy users."

The rest of the terms of service are irrelevant. If you're doing something illegal, your beard just promised to out you – with all the details of what you were up to – if anyone with a badge should ask.
Whom Can You Trust with Your Secrets

In its own post about the "Lulzsec fiasco," Hidemyass.com execs admitted learning their service was one being used by LulzSec members after IRC chat logs were released by other hackers.

They did nothing about it because they had no way to identify the accounts LulzSec'ers were using and no hard evidence of wrongdoing.

They weren't surprised with a court order for information about specific accounts, however, and they didn't sweat much over the decision.

_Our VPN service and VPN services in general are not designed to be used to commit illegal activity. It is very naive to think that by paying a subscription fee to a VPN service you are free to break the law without any consequences. This includes certain hardcore privacy services which claim you will never be identified, these types of services that do not cooperate are more likely to have their entire VPN network monitored and tapped by law enforcement, thus affecting all legitimate customers. – Hidemyass.com, "The LulzSec Fiasco," Sept. 23, 2011. _

That doesn't mollify Sabu, who view cooperating with law enforcement in any way violation of a sacred compact, despite depending on "rooted servers or busybox routers" as anonymity screens, rather than commercial services.

"No," Sabu replied (profanely) at a "scrub"who said it's hard to "expose" HMA if the real problem was Recursion's use of one login in many places. "I am exposing HMA for going against their own anti-logging policy. Keep up. I know it's hard."

"@HideMyAssCom You will cease to exist." – AnonymousSabu, Sept. 23, 2011

Turning records over to the FBI, then going public with it in a post that defends the practice undermines the credibility of all VPN proxy services and smears those who are more aggressive about protecting the data and activity of their customers, accordingto a counter-argument posted by rival VPN service AirVPN.

HMA's claim that all VPN providers keep logs and have to turn them over to police when required is wrong on legal and technical grounds, makes VPNs less credible in the eyes of customers and erodes their legal status as "mere conduits" of information that shouldn't be required to track the activity of their customers or reveal it to the law, the AirVPN editorial said.

AirVPN is based in Europe, so it doesn't recognize U.S. jurisdictions and is required by EU law to keep the names of its customers much more private than U.S. companies anyway.

AirVPN's service is designed "so that you don't need to have "faith" in what we say (for example, when we say "we don't keep logs"), but to be inherently secure, regardless of what you think of us and regardless of which pressures we might receive from enforcement or criminal entities."

AirVPN allows customers to sign up and pay for the service using digital Bitcoin reseller networks and to use the TOR VPN network when buying an account at Bitcoin, to keep from leaving a trail of IP addresses to the point at which you paid.

It offers secure email accounts "that cannot be used to reveal your identity," and encourages customers to use its service in conjunction with TOR or others "for extremely critical data transfers" for whistleblowers, those providing information on organized crime or those in politically oppressed countries who risk arrest or death for reading certain sites or posting certain information.

"The key is that we must NOT know who you are."
Not Every Secret Proxy is Quite so Noble

Other services such as Privax offer a series of free proxy servers users can link through to hide their tracks, each of which has different terms of service.

More commercial services such asCryptoCloud, provide a "100% anonymous procedure" for payment and service, accepting cashier's checks or other anonymous payment, and promise that "we do not store logs of your network activity. We don't have a privacy policy regarding those records because we don't keep those records…We cannot be compelled to provide what we do not have."

CryptoCloud got good reviewsfrom some users and was fairly well regarded as a BitTorrent screen and VPN service.

That confidence might have been shaken by the second major arrest, last April, of CryptoCloud owner Douglas Spinks – who spent three years in prison after a 1995 traffic stop in which he was found to have 372 pounds of cocaine in his SUV, but was sentenced to only three years after testifying against the smuggling ring he worked for.

This time the arrest was for allegedly running a farm raising animals for sex tourists interested in bestiality – which led to some distasteful revelations about his fondness for German Shepherds.

CryptoCloud is still around, though, offering a VPN tunneling service that "wraps everything in an outside wrapper indistinguishable from plain, old-fashioned HTTPS traffic. So, while you might be playing WoW and talking on a VoIP connection, your router and network sees only traffic similar to visiting an online banking site."

Levels of nobility and respectability seem to vary a bit in this industry.

As Recursion and at least one set of Cocaine smugglers found out – it's always best to double check how reliable someone is who you plan to trust with your most sensitive secrets.

Well, second most sensitive, if you count the dogs.
ozi avatar
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 05:38
Author: SuperAdmin
question should what what make you think vpn will keep your secrets?

they will reveal all to the next highest bidder
smallz avatar
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 00:32
Author:
Oziman you are correct. That was the reason for posting the article. Many believe that they are paying a vpn service to keep what they do on the net anonymous however vpn are selling or turning over records to officials or other bidders as they keep logs so there is no total anonomity.
No avatar
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 18:13
Author:
You don't have to take my word for it, but according to the latest gossip.

Cryptocloud is still the ONLY company, that can be trusted, providing you with a secure connection.

Post a Reply    

Forum Search


  search in post message
  search in topic subject
Forum


Home - Browse Torrents - Upload Torrent - Stat - Forum - FAQ - Login
ExtraTorrent.cc is in compliance with copyrights
Can't load ExtraTorrent? Try our official mirrors: etmirror.com - etproxy.com - extratorrentonline.com - extratorrentlive.com
2006-2017 ExtraTorrent.cc2