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Mulva1989 avatar
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 19:27
Author: Trusted UploaderSite FriendET junkieET loverGirl
humility wrote:
Since so many atheists have congregated in one spot, tell me something. For me, I feel the presence of three deities in my mind and body. According to my savior, I'm supposed to have the presence of the Holy Spirit with me at all times. I am witness to that. I feel I do have my Holy Spirit with me. Here's my question to whoever wants to answer it. As an atheist, do you have any of the three deities within you? Do you have the presence of the Holy Spirit in you talking to you? Have you ever done something in your life that could damn your soul to hell forever? If so, didn't you feel the Holy Spirit inside you telling you what you just did? Maybe you heard the Spirit say to you, "You have just damned your soul to hell!"

I hope none of you come back and tell me you don't feel the presence of anything within your body and soul. Do you feel you have a soul? I have about 200 more questions for you but nobody would allow me the opport6unity to ask much more than I already have. Few things scare me as much as religion.
I'd be happy to to answer your questions if you make a new thread for it or post it in your regular member thread...

I don't want to be anal about going OT.. heck I do that plenty of times ;).. But since this was a pretty touchy subject and there hasn't really been a resolve for it, lets keep it open for if someone does have something to add to this.
snotlob avatar
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 19:59
Author: Site FriendET junkieET loverSupermanSunTurtle
LRS wrote:
Sorry humilty never heard any voice in my head telling me anything and i don't really understand what it is in terms of religion that your talking about 3 deities ? So i feel no presence.. no soul and if there was a hell what qualifies me to be sent there ? I have done many bad things and equally as many good things.
I couldn't of said it better m8 and I agree with mulva another thread would be interesting.
Big_A_Little_A avatar
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 22:59
Author: Site FriendSupermanimmortal
Mulva1989 wrote:
Big_A_Little_A wrote:
Mulva1989 wrote:
Selsley wrote:
being a white english athiest and christened church of england christion,
i find it absurd how catholics and protistants have been killing each other for centuries over how you must practice christianity the right way.
then you have americans talking aboout holy wars and fighting in the name of god.
lets face it, all religions are followed by a load of weak minded hypocrites. most christians say i am going to hell, in their own minds they have judged me and are equal to their god, as only he can judge me. hypocrisy and bigotry at its finest.
What is absurd is that you find it necessary to spread your demeaning, rather limited and simple minded views on religion(is that not why the torrent was deleted for, members demeaning attitude towards the torrent and uploader and their rather limited and simple minded views on religion), in this topic.

You either didn't read what this topic is about, or you have so much hate towards religion that the mere sight of it makes you go off (which kind of makes you just as big of a hypocrite and bigot as the people you claim to describe). Where in their post is there any sentiment of hate towards religion, only disagreement and disbelief in the belief system of religion.
Or do you hate when others opinions are different from yours?


This topic is about the reason for removal of the OP's torrent and whether it was valid. So please keep it on topic..

The fact that this topic alone stirs up this kind of stuff might give some merit to the removal of the torrent though.. I agree that censoring would be the wrong reason to remove it, but if the torrent is causing troubles.. then the main job of ET staff is to solve those troubles.. we have no obligation towards the writer or the uploader to keep spreading stuff that is causing problems in our community.. It was only causing problems created by some rather limited and simple minded views on religion by a limited number of members

"(is that not why the torrent was deleted for, members demeaning attitude towards the torrent and uploader and their rather limited and simple minded views on religion)"
I don't know.. I haven't seen the complaints myself, neither has anybody else except for SaM I believe.. So that's a pretty assuming statement you're making going only on the fact that they did complain. Regardless though, even if that is the case.. showing the same demeanor towards them isn't really solving anything.. especially since the main point of discussion here is not the complainers, but why SaM removed the torrent and whether that was a legit reason.

So I have made an assuming statement about the members who reported (not complained as you are assuming, as you have not seen the reports?) , but the wording I used was the same as the words you used towards another members opinion on religion and the bigotry of it.
So what have you solved by showing the same demeanor towards that member then?


Where in their post is there any sentiment of hate towards religion, only disagreement and disbelief in the belief system of religion.
Or do you hate when others opinions are different from yours?

First of all I'm an atheist myself, so my opinion isn't miles away from his.. so it's really his demeanor I'm detesting here not so much his standpoint.
"lets face it, all religions are followed by a load of weak minded hypocrites", "hypocrisy and bigotry at its finest."
Those 2 statements are way more then disagreeing and disbelief in their system.. Thats pretty hateful and insulting.. Or would you not be insulted if someone would call you a weak minded hypocrite for something that is a core value to you?

Personally I pretty much agree with those statements, where religions/religious organisations pray on the weak minded, with promises of eternal damnation or salvation depending on if you follow them or not, also many religions do indoctrinate members to believe theirs is the only true religion and if you’re a non-believer then you are not as superior as them, and will end up in damnation which in my book is bigotry towards the non-believers
Hate………………..Now that’s a mighty powerful word. But is hate just a word or more of an attitude of condemnation toward those whom you fear, dislike, disagree with or do not understand?
Hate is a destructive attitude that exudes negative energy, why use such negativity to describe that member’s opinion? Why not use positive energy to try and understand their comments and the reasons they feel that way instead of instantly dismissing them as hateful?


It was only causing problems created by some rather limited and simple minded views on religion by a limited number of members
Again... thats a big assumption not knowing the complainers or even having seen their complaints.. They complained yes and SaM made a judgement call..

Once again I was using the words you used to describe on members opinion, and you say I am making assumptions?
So were you assuming about those comments?
Now you are assuming the reports were complaints yet you have not seen them? Yes SaM made a judgement call to remove the torrent, which in my opinion was the wrong decision, and for the reports that lead to the removal of the torrent, have these members who made the reports, been open minded and taken the time to read the book, to understand it, to discuss it, ignore it or just openly condemned it no questions asked as it conflicts with their belief system?


Anyway it all got a bit heated from both sides.. But my main point was and remains.. that this topic is about SaM's judgement call to act on the arising problems.. If you disagree with that.. fine.. But don't use this topic to promote anti-religion.. IF you want that.. do it somewhere else..

As you are relying to a post made by me I can only guess that this last paragraph is about my posts in this topic?
So where have I got heated about this topic, or are you referring to other posts, which contain an insulting picture of a monkey?
Mulva1989 wrote:
Just another case of monkey reads title... monkey starts typing I guess..
i-5c85cface1c8b98f7b30b86fae54bfd8-monkey.jpg

Or is that when members start throwing derogatory terms at other members for no reason at all?
humility wrote:
and as usual, some peckerhead deviates off topic,

And where am I promoting anti religion? I am trying to have an open and honest debate about it to make a valid point on why I am against the removal of the torrent. Or was it aimed at the comments from the member who stated their opinion on religion? Or is it for the members who have posted her that they openly reject religion?

I would be interested to find out how many of the 12 reporters of the book, and those members who have voted yes on the censorship of this book, have actually read any of the book or as the author of the book suggests "It would be highly beneficial and rewarding to pick up a certified biography of Muhammad’s life, a Quran, the Islamic Hadith (oral traditions and texts) and a Christian Bible" before reading his book, read and fully understood any or all of them?
Big_A_Little_A avatar
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 23:06
Author: Site FriendSupermanimmortal
humility wrote:
For me, I feel the presence of three deities in my mind and body.
So your a follower of a polytheistic, religion?
Would be interested for you to open up another topic/tread to continue this debate/discussion alive.
SleazyMale avatar
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 23:23
Author: Site FriendET junkieET loverSupermanSunTurtle
Big_A_Little_A wrote:
humility wrote:
For me, I feel the presence of three deities in my mind and body.
So your a follower of a polytheistic, religion?
Would be interested for you to open up another topic/tread to continue this debate/discussion alive.

Come on guys make a topic already I would like to contribute in it too.
humility avatar
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 00:55
Author: Site FriendET junkieET loverKitty
Will SAM let it stay???? Will Yogi let it stay? OZI might if he knew so many of us were looking for a room to be together! I'll try it!
Mulva1989 avatar
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 07:06
Author: Trusted UploaderSite FriendET junkieET loverGirl
TO BALA: (apparently the post has gotten to large to quote, getting an error if I do )

No I wasn't referring to your post when when I talked about heated and promoting anti-religion..I was referring to those who you were defending. re-reading my comment now I see that I could have better formulated that.. And yes with heated I did mean my own posts as well...

And no I haven't resolved anything by showing the same demeanor towards Selsley.. I was just mirroring his actions back to him.. The fact alone that that lead to this whole debate kind of speaks volumes about his original actions right? If I can't say the same to him that he is saying to others then that kind of concludes the whole censorship/freedom of speech debate I guess..

Anyway if you really believe that Selsley's comments weren't off-topic (while SaM already told us he was just trying to avoid troubles) and that his comments weren't out of line, then I will drop this.. I do not agree with you but seeing the resistance I'm getting .. then in the least I must concede in that apparently it wasn't as clear-cut as it seemed to me.
Awake avatar
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 18:17
Author:
If it hurts someones sentiments, it should be removed.. and so i would like some members removed from this site as they hurt my sentiments ...

.. how many complaints are needed to remove a member if we are removing so called offensive books that people havent read ?
badtoy91 avatar
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 02:22
Author: Blocked
Can this member called Awake - who appears to be asleep be removed as member for suggesting others be removed...
SRIGGA avatar
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 03:01
Author: Moderator
badtoy91 wrote:
Can this member called Awake - who appears to be asleep be removed as member for suggesting others be removed...

can this duplicate account name badtoy91 be ban already? he already managed to get uploading status and site friend smiley. i mean y'all really need to check before you let some stupid fucking idiot from 2009 comes back and suddenly starts uploading again after 7 years. I bet this account will not uploading for very long.

he came back and manipulated staff for getting uploading status back , but... Just wait ad see how fast it disappears
LRS avatar
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 08:25
Author: AdminSun
SRIGGA wrote:
badtoy91 wrote:
Can this member called Awake - who appears to be asleep be removed as member for suggesting others be removed...

can this duplicate account name badtoy91 be ban already? he already managed to get uploading status and site friend smiley. i mean y'all really need to check before you let some stupid fucking idiot from 2009 comes back and suddenly starts uploading again after 7 years. I bet this account will not uploading for very long.

he came back and manipulated staff for getting uploading status back , but... Just wait ad see how fast it disappears

You know the score he lasts as long as he lasts and so far all is fine ;)
Awake avatar
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 09:04
Author:


badtoy91 wrote:
Can this member called Awake - who appears to be asleep be removed as member for suggesting others be removed...


Hey badtoy, seems like you need a fix. If you actually bother to comment on the topic and NOT what people say, you might actually be contributing. If making fun of a username makes you feel cool, then so be it, but just remember the only person you're fooling is yourself. Read my comment again, paying attention, and see if i've asked for anyone to be removed.

Now to reiterate my point, if someone or something hurts your sentiments, is that enough to get it removed. - comment -
b2ux avatar
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 00:41
Author: Blocked
Censorship to make sure the feeling of Muslims aren't hurt is a good thing...

say huh...
on this subject i would have to totally disagree for a few reasons 1 being censorship its a bad deal for everyone ..
And on that note also take down , the passion of the christ as jews find that movie extremely offensive... same theory different movie.. get the point if you do one the cycle never ends and if you dont do the others it makes you look a lil bigoted,,, see where im coming from not judging just looking in from the outside makes it seem one sided towards one religion while nixing the others so let it ride or soon you will be taking down south park because of the mohamed episode being offensive.. once started it will never end ..

im not going to coddle a people who cant even take care of there own and allow whats going on in the world to continue ..... there yours deal with them most other countries do.. with this one exception you dont... the perfect example Lebanon pre 1980 and after 1980 pre the jewel of the middle east the most beautiful place i have ever been no joke puts the tajmahal to shame ..now its a crap hole like most of the middle east whos fault well you guessed it deal with your own before asking others to step on shells for you dubai is one of the only countries that actually does......you want us look after your feelings while your stepping all over ours ......
Admiral_Smith avatar
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 03:12
Author: Trial UploaderTurtle
Maybe the liberal extremists need to tone down on the religious descriptions of their content. I mean torrents are cool but I believe maybe over there.. in ... <Arabic bible land> that they cannot upload to youtube so they try torrent shares. Hmmm. I had it because my brain is rattled by Illuminati spooks and other things. <a pause> Yeah, yeah I see why there is censorship of their stuff. Meh they can always burn them on DVD or something and pass it off behind industrial warehouses like I thought of passing my digital crap. Yeah... yeah.. <and then they attack porn, anime, and other things because they think if THEY get censored then might as well censor the rest if the media> Yeah yeah.. that is the internet neutral zone stuff in action. What makes a freedom of self expression in the United States a S.T.F.U statement overseas? Imagine people all over the globe in a huge area carrying their national flag gathering data. Some people just don't like what you get and others hate what they have to share. Maybe the land of milk and honey needs to find a way for their people to market their work perhaps.. I'm not for them but I love the idea of a good word getting out and people can reference it for themselves. (freedom of the press)
rigmar avatar
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 09:24
Author: Trusted UploaderET lover
It is sad that religion still gets in the way in 2017. I have nothing at all against religion, after all it is just one more prop or helper for the Human Race, whatever gets you through life right?

BUT when other people's religious beliefs are either FORCED on you, or ALTER your personal space, time to shout TIMEOUT or FOUL.

The trend in Western Europe and North America is for religion to fade out. In my original home in Aberdeen, Scotland we now have some fantastic PUBS, CLUBS and Downtown eating places which USED TO BE places of Worship. Closed down due to lack of interest.

Following on this trend it is natural to believe this will also spread to the Middle East and other religious hot spots around the World. I do not believe that censorship is the answer to any of life's problems. I do not believe in GOD or any of the major scripts, but I do try and be nice to others who I share this World with and share whatever I have with them. I do not require the 10 commandments or any religion to be a decent and moral person.
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