ET- private site?

Just wondering how many want to see this site private.

I would like to see this happen mainly mainly for safe downloading but also to put an end to Idiot spammers with nothing better to do in life than post pictures of people eating shit. A Private tracker with Invites and sporadic signups would put an end to the spammers and many other problems this site has been plagued with in the past.

ET is one of the best torrent sites and would be even better if it were Private. In my opinion.

Dont think that would be a good idea. think about it for a minute. look at all the sponsers that advertise on et. They pay et money to display those adds. et uses that money along wit vip to pay out their expenses! such as server ip proveder electric etc! so if we close the doors and become private that would be alot of revenue lost.

good point don. We can keep all the advertisements. also people will pay if ratio gets low. Pay for vip.

Its all up to ADMIN anyways but if over half the site wanted to go private than maby admin would consider it. The turnover ratio on this site is crazy, ive seen this site totally flip like 8 times in 1 year. If you needed to be invited their wouldnt be that many fakers uploading and spamming. People wouldnt be complaining because they dont want to get ban. ect ect

While it cant sort out some of our major problems at the moment, a plan of attack would be to remove uploader rights from members with "New" status seems 90% of spam/virus originates from "New Members".. To go even further would be to extend the "New" status to 72 hrs making it even more difficult for the spammers / virus writers to distribute. Also, it would work to the site advantage - give a new member the chance to get the feel of - get used to the fact there is no ads etc for that 72 hrs, it will make them want vip even more so than the 24 hrs which is really only a few hrs seems most new members will not stay logged in all that 24 hrs.. Let them get used to the VIP before taking it away and save us from uploaders who have only the intention of doing wrong.

So how is there more disadvantages?

Ok so %70 of uploads come from another site. sounds about right. but atleast %30 of that are transplants. and about half of what is uploaded gets deleted with no seeds after a month.. Why? Because people dont want to seed.
If it aint a hott torrent you will get a slow download or have to go elsewhere to get it.

Heres the advantages:

1) safe downloading= no more letters from your ISP
2) People seed
3) more money for the site
4) no more pesky spammers,virus uploaders and faker
5) no more transplanting torrents
6) no more Idiots causing trouble, because they want to keep there membership!
7) brings better uploaders to the site.
less staff needed

Disadvantages

1) Hit n runners will go elsewhere
2) Maybe less advertisements? which is actually an advantage.
3) Maybe less torrents. But I doubt it will be less!


I wanna ask how we would suffer a massave hit to uploads? Uploaders would still get torrents off other sites and bring them here, also would get rewarded By getting higher ratio. also torrents would stay alive x10 longer than they do now.

just a few thoughts from me:

- you will find much more unseeded torrents after only a couple of month on Demonoid and TPB than on ET, check it if you like

- so far I never caught a virus on ET, but I did several times on other sites, including private sites - thanks to the great work and the numbers of the Admins here. Will say, I can’t see reducing admins as an advantage.

- the value of a site is to a huge part made up of its sheer numbers of members and daily hits. This certainly would drop dramatically, perhaps by more than 50% due to the structure of this community.

- the majority of members here is from countries with poor internet connections, some members even share their access and their computer. They are simply not able to fulfil any kind of ratio and they would never be accepted on private sites, although most of them are sharing what they can. I have worked many years in such countries and know that people there share more the 'conventional' way - from computer to computer or burning for others who don't have internet access at all or watching with lots of friends and family. You would take this away from them; simply exclude thousands of ET-members – and what for? Because of a few sick spammer once in a while, and so that a very few can get their downloads even quicker? Not worth it to me.

- the tremendous success and the accelerating growth of ET is built on the notion of 'public' site in combination with great admin work to contain quality and safety. Change this and you are just one of the 'others'. Besides, the old Windows-user saying fits: never touch a running system



Not offending anyone, but those discussions about getting private are always and only initiated and favoured by people with the classic 'westerner' attitude and options. 'that is good for the site' means actually 'that's good for a few'. Getting upset with low seeds or low speeds and excluding peeps with low ratios? I share if you share and you have to share as much and as fast as I do? - that is not much of sharing to me, I call that barter.

Has anyone heard yet of someone who could not get his movie finished from ET? What? It took a couple of hours or even a day longer than it might have on a private site? It breaks my heart……
There are always enough seeds on ET in spite - or because - of being public and all this whining about hit & runners!

The price for a few getting it faster is that the mass can’t get it at all! Sharing?!

If A. could make more money with the site by having less trouble and/or work – he would have done so from the beginning or already anyway.

Being public has its price, yes. But so has going private.

ET works very well as it is.

I see your point Dirk.

What I meant regarding seedbox and VPN: for us it is for safety and that's what peeps in those countries don't need, you are right there. But quite a few people even here use them also to increase their upload speed and to seed continuously for a better ratio and/or to stay on private sites - and that's what peeps in such countries cannot afford.

I am drawn too to the 'best bittorrent system' rather than 'the biggest', but I am also a Westerner and I guess it is in our blood to want always the best. I probably just see this a little different because I worked and lived in such countries for more than ten years now, just came back last year from my last contract. Besides, if I would go back for another year, it would most likely mean I could not access a private ET either.

And what do you mean with 'nothing is free'? We are all pirates here. And ain't that what everyone is yelling if someone critiques, for example, an upload? Shut up, its free And again: this is what people say who can afford it. For anybody else is must be free.


I know where you are coming from, but cannot go with it. Becoming an exclusive club of thieves, thieves only who can afford stealing, simply doesn't seems right to me, contradicting the idea of sharing. And it certainly would take a lot of colour from the site.


Oh, and about the hits only for advertisements......I guess the site owner might think a bit different about this.

sounds idyllic, but wouldn't work that way, I'm afraid. However long you seed in such countries, you will never reach a good ratio - unless you totally stop downloading for a very long time. And yes you are right again, most of them are here because they don't have to seed - because most of them cannot, not all of course. But is that really that terrible? As said before, so far everyone has got his movie. It doesn't cost us anything more if 200 are downloading your torrent or 2000. You are not losing anything. Sounds a bit like the studios, don't you think?
For more than a year I had 1mb down and 256 up shared and dozens of crashes a day, there is simply no way seeding to a private site's standards.

Anyway, the points are made. I rather would seed that little longer myself to compensate than cutting them out. Because I can afford it.



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