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Scene Tags Explained


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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:23
Author: Site FriendET junkieET lover
PROPER -

Due to scene rules, whoever releases the first Telesync has won that race (for example). But if the quality of that release is fairly poor, or if another group has another telesync (or the same source in higher quality), then the tag PROPER is added to the folder to avoid it being duped. PROPER is the most subjective tag in the scene, and a lot of people will generally argue whether the PROPER is better than the original release. A lot of groups release PROPERS just out of desperation due to losing the race. A reason for the PROPER should always be included in the NFO.


LIMITED -

A limited movie means it has had a limited theater run, generally opening in less than 250 theaters.


INTERNAL -

An internal release is done for several reasons. Classic DVD groups do a lot of INTERNAL releases, as they wont be dupe'd on it. Also, lower quality theater rips are done INTERNAL so not to lower the reputation of the group. Also, it can be labeled INTERNAL due to the amount of rips already released. An INTERNAL release is available as normal on the groups affiliate sites, but they can't be traded to other sites without request from the site ops. Some INTERNAL releases still trickle down to IRC/Newsgroups, it usually depends on the title and the popularity. Earlier in the year people referred to Centropy going "internal". This meant the group was only releasing the movies to their members and site ops. This is in a different context to the usual definition.


STV -

Straight To Video. Was never released in theaters, and therefore a lot of sites do not allow these.


ASPECT RATIO TAGS -

These are *WS* for widescreen (letterbox) and *FS* for Fullscreen.


REPACK -

If a group releases a bad rip, they will release a Repack which will fix the problems.


NUKED -


A film can be nuked for various reasons. Individual sites will nuke files for breaking their rules (such as "No Telesyncs"), but if the film has something extremely wrong with it, (no soundtrack for 20mins, CD2 is incorrect film/game etc), then a global nuke will occur, and people trading it across sites will lose their credits. Nuked films can still reach other sources such as p2p/usenet, but it's a good idea to check why it was nuked in the first case. If a group relizes there is something wrong, they can request a nuke.


NUKE REASONS...

This is a list of common reasons a film can be nuked for...

BAD A/R = bad aspect ratio, i.e. people appear too fat/thin
BAD IVTC = bad inverse telecine...process of converting frame rates was incorrect.
INTERLACED = black lines on movement as the field order is incorrect.


DUPE -

Dupe basically means what it says. If something exists already, then theres no reason for it to exist again without proper reason. Usually the group releasing the DUPE will explain the reason for the release in the NFO.

I hope this info helps all you noobs out. I was a noob once, and I know how confusing stuff can be. I looked at a lot of forums to find all this data....so if you see something similar to what you have, just know you were smarter than the rest.

If youre a hardcore scener, you can probably leave this thread right now, theres no use in reading the following paragraphs. However, there are also many people who are not so familiar with a scene slang and thats why I've decided to collect a list of most common nuke reasons and explain them for you. This way, you will always know what to expect from a release which is nuked.

These nukes are based on TDX 2005

stolen.from.p2p
lately a very popular and common nuke reason. This basically means that the scene group which pred the release stole it from another source - specifically a peer to peer network (p2p) in this case. In most cases, this means a private BitTorrent tracker, which obtained and released the copy of a movie faster than any other scene source. This nuke reason will not affect your viewers experience and many sceners consider it useless as we basically steal the movies anyway.

stolen.src

stolen source. Similar or same as the above nuke reason. Scene groups can steal the video or audio also from each other, apart from stealing from peer to peer networks.

bad.res
bad image resolution. The scene rules define allowed image resolutions and their aspect ratios. If a movie doesnt fit in these rules, it means the image will be probably malformed in a certain way. Many advanced video players allow to change the image resolution, so this can be sometimes fixed at your computer.

bad.ar

bad aspect ratio. A similar reason to the above one. Each video was originally filmed and released in a specific aspect ratio (horizontal vs. vertical side). The most common AR is 2.35:1 which is for example a resolution of 640272 pixels. Bad aspect ratio leads to inproportional image, where characters appear to be either too wide or, more often, too tall. This can be also fixed with some media players.

dupe
dupe means simply a dupe. The nuked release was already released by another group earlier, so the nuked one is basically useless, doubled. This doesnt really matter if you dont care about the strict scene rules.

undersized
a release is nuked for being undersized when it doesnt fully use the capacity of one or two CDs. This means that the final rip is for example 680 MB, while it could be 700 MB and offer a better quality of image and audio. Once again, this is not a serious deal unless its undersized by hundreds of megabytes.

bad.crop, overcropped
movies on DVD contain black parts of the image above and below the actual video. In order to decrease the final size and offer the best possible quality, these black parts must be removed before encoding and releasing in xvid. Sometimes, scene groups dont properly remove / crop these parts and it means that the image misses top or bottom part, therefore you dont see the whole scene. Cropping is often used also for removing watermarks or hardcoded subtitles, but it still means a serious loss of the image. The other, not so common extreme, is when a group forgets to remove these black boxes.

bad.ivtc, no.ivtc
quite a common nuke reason which affects mostly lower-quality releases. IVTC means inverse telecine and its basically a process of converting a movie (usually PAL) with high FPS (30 frames per second) to lower FPS (for example 24) in order to save space and offer better image quality. This conversion often goes wrong (bad.ivtc) or completely lacks (no.ivtc, lazy sceners)). As a result, the image appears to be jerky and the final release uses too much space for no reason.

interlaced
the image contains visible black lines, which often cause the video to be completely unwatchable. These black lines are visible mostly during movement on the image and are caused by incorrect field order. I wont go into details explaining the reasons for this - its caused by different way of displaying frames and fields (half-frames) in the video, more details are available for example http://neuron2.net/LVG/interlacing.html"">here. Its highly recommended to not download any interlaced release.

cbr.audio
audio can be either CBR (constant bit rate), or VBR (variable bit rate). According to the scene rules, all releases should contain VBR audio, so any release with CBR is instantly nuked. Variable bit rate allows better quality, according to the current sound, while constant one sets the same quality for the whole movie, including the quiet parts. However, releases with AC3 audio almost always use CBR. Its often hard to distinguish the difference between CBR and VBR for an untrained ear, so this nuke reason isnt too serious if you dont care about the rules.

bad.fps
bad frame rate. The frame rate should be close to the original framerate. Not a very common nuke reason, but its better to beware any release with this nuke.

mislabeled

a release trying to look like a better quality rip. A good example would be an R5 rip from Russian video source released as dvdrip - the difference isnt that big in this case and scene groups always get more props for releasing dvdrips. The another case can be a typo or wrong year in the release name.

grp.req
a nuke requested by the release group. Happens when a scene group releases something and realize its completely wrong, not working or simply bad, so they request a nuke.

oos, out.of.sync
out of sync, audio isnt synced with video. Extremely annoying mistake which makes most of such release completely unwatchable. This happens very often with cams, telesyncs and telecines, which require a synchronization of audio and video from different source. Some releases are completely out of sync, while others have this problem only for a few seconds or minutes.

bad.pack
bad packing. The group didnt pack their release properly, according to scene rules. This means they either forgot to pack it into 15/20/50 MB RARs or its completely impossible to unpack it.

invalid.proper
proper is a release fixing other, previously nuked release. When a certain group releases proper and the first release is actually fine, the new one becomes nuked for invalid proper.

qpel.not.allowed
qpel or quarter pixel is a feature of modern encoding codecs such as H.264 which allows better and more efficient compression. Videos encoded with quarter-pixel precision motion vectors require up to twice as much processing power to encode, and 30-60% more processing power to decode. Thus, such releases often cause software problems or are completely unplayable at certain DVD players.

ghosting

annoying feature of a release, which result into ghost effect during every movement in the movie. Its caused by inproper encoding and cant be easily fixed.

field.shifted / dupe.frames / blended.frames / custom.quant.matrix
other mostly serious faults affecting the image, caused during encoding the final video.

divx.not.allowed / no.audio / missing.audio / get.rerip / get.proper
no need to explain these I guess


If anybody has some more then please share it with us:)
karakurachow avatar
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 15:33
Author: Site Friend
Very well explained m8
Thanks
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 17:02
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 13:24
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i will post more info on dis
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:40
Author: Trusted UploaderSite FriendSuperman
Great share m8, thanks..!
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23
Author: Blocked
nice and educative info. thanks for this if i got something i will definetely share here.

thanks again

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