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admin avatar
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 02:51
Author:
admin
Why we have spam or fake torrents? Ok we have 1000+ new torrents daily. So we cant check all this incomming staff. We trying make our site clear but its not so simple. And of course we have some bad torrents so thats why i create this topic to help detect bad staff.

So here suggestions:
1) First you must look at - its torrent files list.
a) If you download movie and files list has 1 archive (*.rar, *.zip, *.tar, *.gz etc) - its probably fake. Bcos there is no reason to archive binary (archived by codecs) video. But if only 50 archives (*.r01, *.r02 ...) - its can be good torrent.
b) If you see in files text documents (*.txt, *.doc, *.htm, *.html, *.pdf) read all them before:
- if this files have name like "how to open this", "How to play movie", "read this before extract", "visit URL to get password", "how to get password", "Help and FAQ about movie" - its fake.
- if this text files have good file name just download ONLY this files and read them (before download movie!!!). So you can download only text before start download movie, read this doc and if it has any words about visiting other sites to get password - its fake

2) Look at trackers list. If it have many trackers and only 1 of them live - its very strange. Update seeds and leechers stats. Same again? Why other trackers not track it now? Yes maybe this is fake. But its not 100% sure about this. But try avoid. Its 50%/50%.

3) Look at comments. If someone say - its fake! i think do not download this. And of course ask about quality or fake in comments.

4) look at torrent size. It can help you detect bad staff too. Small size of movie can be strange too.

I hope this will help you a little to detect FAKE.

And also Reporting fake torrents to us can also entitle you to VIP membership (dont forget put your login in report) ;)

Thanks
admin avatar
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 18:03
Author:
admin
Now i will show examples.

Torrent "Beowulf (2007)High Quality HDCAM ReencodedUSA avi" . it looks like OK.
trackers: total 5029 seeds, 9302 leechers in 23 trackers
Size: 702.05 MB
files: example.gif
so 3 files. Looks like OK. example and full movie in .avi
But stop. What is "Beowulf's Help & FaQ File.htm". FAQ and help for what?? Here full movie in .avi just open and whatch it. so why any FAQ and help? Strange.... Looks like bullshit. OK. getting this .html file and reading:
... rename .avi to .rar .... go to site for password .....
OK. All clear now its 100% fake.

So this is 1st example i will post here others. Keep reading forum.
And of course we remove such staff from our site and bann uploaders.

Thanks.
recpad avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 06:40
Author:
One more tip...

The movie has been released, say, yesterday. Today you see a TS or CAM version. Ok. Then you see a DVDRIP version. This one most certainly is the fake. Miracles happen, but not so often.
magiccrack avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 22:40
Author:
Yes, for newbies, DVD Rip is a copy from a DVD that is then turned into a watchable file format for your computer.

Some movies come in format of .bin and .cue dont use these, these are like fake too.

FREE VIP up for grabs when reporting problems, this wont happen on a couple of reports from you, we will monitor your reporting and when we see fit, we will slap a VIP on you for one month free!

Thanks.

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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 23:06
Author: Blocked
Quote:
Some movies come in format of .bin and .cue dont use these, these are like fake too.

not totaly tru if you know what are rea trusted uploader likel kvcd are bin cue and the a 100% real movie
Breesay avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 19:48
Author:
.bin files are often ok.. just use something like vlc player

always works for me

i go for .bin and .avi

but never rar files or ones with text documents


thanks for the advice mr admin person
wilk87 avatar
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 08:11
Author:
As others have mentioned before don't download rar files or torrents with html files. But what if the torrent seems legit and you get it to find out it is a fake. what a waste. go to vcdquality.com there you can get the news about who has released what. this site covers dvdrips screeners ts etc.
Chances are if it aint at vcdquality.com it ain't out there
No avatar
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 13:45
Author: Blocked
true about vcdquality.com. only prob is that even if there is a movie out some still upload fake like mpaa riaa etc.about rar is 1 off the most download format there is..befor you download rar movie check where is the tracker and see if it look legit .and check comment :P but if porn is in zip it is 99% fake :) im download rar file all the time and cant remember when last time i got a fake/pw 1.i always check tracker etc like rls date and comment ppl make .iff ppl just check the torrent befor dl then np.so ppl if torrent say go to url for pw then dont dl it.fake
admin avatar
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 15:31
Author:
admin
One more tip again. There is no reason to archivate video files bcos video is already archived by codecs. Only 1 reason i see - its many chunks for separate downloading (will looks like .r01, .r02 etc)
magiccrack avatar
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 22:56
Author:
Yes.

Any movie / game torrent that contains .r01 .r02 .r03 etc are okay.

Select all .RAR icons (once downloaded) Right-Click on selected icons, press Extract Here, you will see a new .AVI or .EXE depending on what you got movie / game.

:wink:
No avatar
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 14:47
Author:
If you see a (*.nfo) file in a movie torrent file just download that one and open it up in Notepad to read it and see what it say ok if it say goto a web site it is a fake ok but if it say what the movie is about it is not a fake ok then you can download all the file in the torrent ok :D
No avatar
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 08:27
Author:
if you download the movie ,how i do , then you see the movie doomplayer or stranger video player so 1000% it's FAKE :) :evil: :evil:
spider avatar
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 21:21
Author:
well now we get some files in ".r01 .r02 .r03" pack as fake too.....
After i unzipped one..... Eg. 10000 bc and then played the avi.... it showed the screen... "get Hdmi2 codec from hdmi2.com" Something like that....

:oops: Well that site took me to a porn site.. Same old publicity tricks..
All in all ..whole 700 mb turned to scrap.

That was an uncompressed avi..... with a large file size...

Is there a way out to track such fake files....
I mean they are in ".r01 .r02 .r03" kinda thing and u cant know whats inside it unless u played it..

Well i think The posts and comments on such files can stop this.
So where ever u find such file.... Plz do post a comment on that,so that others may not suffer :wink:
No avatar
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 23:00
Author: Blocked
well first check for comment and check files befor download some times there is a file go for codec url for pw ect
No avatar
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 04:35
Author:
Seems to be alot of disagreement about how to interpret the use of archives. As you cannot see the contents of an archive before its downloaded, the content cannot be verified before such either.

Many (most) TV-rips of series, are relased as an .avi file around 350Mb in size (episode lasting around 40-45 minutes). Some are 1CD size (approx. 700mb), these are usually encoded with higher resolution and/or 5.1 surround sound. This kind of releases are split into 15.000.000 byte (14.31Mb).RAR segments (files).

DVD-rips are DivX/Xvid/[YourFavouriteCodecHere] files, split into one or more .avi files, sized approx. 700Mb, to fit on a CD. These are also split into 15.000.000 byte segments.

Large game, PS2, Xbox and DVD-movie releases (made to fit on 1 or several DVD's) are split into 50.000.000 byte (47,68Mb) .RAR segments. Pretty much all DVD-movie releases are to some degree compressed, and thus take up a full DVD disc. This results in about 92-96 .rar files. All of these should be of same size, except the last one. A correct and complete release should hold the following files and folders (names are examples):


fancy.movie.example.dvd.rar
fancy.movie.example.dvd.r00
fancy.movie.example.dvd.r01
...
...
fancy.movie.example.dvd.r95

AND!

fancy.movie.example.dvd.nfo
fancy.movie.example.dvd.sfv

Note: in some occations the .rar segments are named differently, for instance:

fancy.movie.example.dvd.001
fancy.movie.example.dvd.002
fancy.movie.example.dvd.003
...
...
fancy.movie.example.dvd.095

OR

fancy.movie.example.dvd.part001.rar
fancy.movie.example.dvd.part002.rar
fancy.movie.example.dvd.part003.rar
...
...
fancy.movie.example.dvd.part004.rar

There is nothing wrong with this. This is just another way of naming the segments of the RAR archive.


In addition, any film (tv-rip of series, dvd, dvd-rip etc) should hold a folder called "Sample" with the corresponding file in it:

fancy.movie.example.sample.vob (if DVD-movie release) OR
fancy.movie.example.sample.avi (if avi file release)

Some may add additional files/folders containing cover pictures or generic release group nfo's. Some also implements an .url file to the torrent site it has passed through.

The .NFO file holds ASCII text information about the release, such as what source it is from, version and original type of protection (if software), compression/data rates, what audio and subtitles are included, what have been stripped etc. If there is "PROPER" in the release name, the file shall state the reason for proper. With software, it also gives installation instructions etc.
The .SFV file holds a checksum (unique signature of a file, changes with even the slightest modification of the file) of all the files in the original release. it is STRONGLY suggested to run this file with a SFV checker program (can be found for free, just google it) - to check if any of the files have been modified or broken during download. This will also tell you if any files are missing.
If 1 or more files have been corrupted or modified, download that/those particular files again, preferrably from another source.

Once the SFV check passes all the files, extract the .rar archive with WinRAR or another appropriate tool (Total Commander etc).

Now, when the complete archive has been downloaded, there should be (without a few exceptions) NO .rar, .zip or such archived files within the main segment-split archive, unless EXPLICITLY noted in the .nfo file with the same name as the release.

An avi type release should only hold the .avi file. In rare cases subtitles are included in a seperate file. A game, program or dvd-movie should hold one of the following:
.bin and .cue
.iso
.img

other CD/DVD image formats occure, but are rare.

The initial release of these episodes, games and dvds as pretty much all releases today - are compressed into .RAR format, and split in 15.000.000 or 50.000.000 byte chunks. This is a general rule of the release scene, and most releases WILL be nuked if not following this rule. This is not an attempt to compress material already compressed by codecs. This is done so that if a download procedure is terminated due to manual/intentional aborting, loss of or unstable connection etc, the user can resume download later. In case of file corruption due to the nature of aboring the download, only that particular 14.31Mb /47,68Mb chunk is lost, and not the entire part that has been damaged.


The idea distributing in this manner was concieved and taken into use quite a while back, when alot/most end users did not have large-capacity broadband connections. Also, this allowed for precise verification of the authenticy and integrity of the downloaded material via the SFV check. Sure now adays we could easily download a 700mb divx and 4.38Gb DVDr in one chunk, but the same benefits are still there - so why change a system that still works more or less flawlessly? Another benefit of this system, when downloading via e.g. Direct Connect (DC++ etc), is that you can get several chunks from separate users at the same time, thus cutting down download time (as long as available bandwith on both ends allows for it).
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