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Wikileaks: Don`t Be A Sheep !


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Mandelbrot avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 18:34
Author:
Well said BlueLady!OPen your eyes SaveIt4later. People who research these subjects,which your obviously not one of them,see the inherent dangers that lie ahead.Civil liberties are being eroded and if you want to sit back and do nothing,be my guest.At the moment all you seem to be doing is critising people with more awareness about the future than yourself, read a book or two, I`ll gladly share some title`s!
Big_A_Little_A avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 18:45
Author: Site FriendSupermanimmortal
SaveIt4later wrote:
Bluelady these 3 are suggesting a BIG conspiracy. And knowing whats in these documents, are going to lead to something. I'm simply asking. Since they know what's in the documents, and knowledge is power and all. What will they do with their knowledge? It's a simple question.

At no point have I hinted at a big conspiricy,but have said for folk to at least look,think and make up their own mind.
As it it unfortunate thay alot of folk dont really know whats going on behind the scenes,in world politics and these documents expose some of the truths.If anyone can actually do anything with this infomation is up to them,to read,digest,investigate and plan what they can do.

Information is a powerful tool and used in the right way is can be used very efficently and effective.

As for the cablegate documents they do have some intresting reading,like the Saudis puuting pressure on the US to do somthing about Iraqs nuclear capabilites,and the US did take action,the way I look at this,is the US buckled to the saudis to ensure they stayed in the good books to gain access to oil/finaces,while at the same time taking advantage of the oil in Iraq. I might be wrong but thats the way it looks to me.

Also the misuse of the information can also have devistating effects such as the "fake" cables leaked to the Pakistan press,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/pakistani-newspaper-fake-leaks-india

Why would they do that other than to stir up trouble and cause conflict.
aSBo avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 18:50
Author: Site FriendKitty
SaveIt4later

A consequence of dipping your lil sausage in a lady garden is the inevitable questioning the sprog sporned will make you endure... It`s endless from the the first time they start to squawk!.

Who ? What ? Where ? Why ?..

Good to have some knowledge to impart so they have the tool set to survive.

They are the information generation.
BlueLady avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 19:17
Author: Blocked
Dont expect anything profound here, i'm just a mom, cable leaks, information leaks on which world leader called another world leader an 'idiot' outside diplomatic circles. In reality, this all smacks of media sensationism...some of these documents are over 4 years old, and dont look to be any higher than secretarial level. They do however have a serious impact on every free nation. Now you know what your government is REALLY thinking. About damn time I think.

What to do about it ?, what do you WANT to do about it ?....Next time you vote, think carefully and choose wisely your next candidate for any government office, because your going to be stuck with them for the next 4 years, and dont expect any of them to be squeaky clean and on your side, because there not. Politicians in general are mean, cold hearted petty lying bastards who are only out for what they can get, and because you voted for them, their getting it. The recent expenses scandal in the UK proved that.

Back to perspectives, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, including the politicians....Thank you all, now you can nuke me, i'm done with this subject..



dipping your lil sausage in a lady garden..wtf ?...asbo you pilchard...lmao
YoGi avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 19:36
Author: Admin
LoL .. just a quick comment as I'm off home...

1. I'll save it for saveit till I get home (:
2. 4 years old Blue? lol 1966 hunny, thats 44 years ( good to see ya in the forums )

Ok now till i get back (:
BlueLady avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 20:39
Author: Blocked
PsYcHaYoGi wrote:
LoL .. just a quick comment as I'm off home...

1. I'll save it for saveit till I get home (:
2. 4 years old Blue? lol 1966 hunny, thats 44 years ( good to see ya in the forums )

Ok now till i get back (:

Thank you darlin, but I got to be careful or Sam will chew my ass...lol
Mandelbrot avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 21:04
Author:
It doesn`t matter if you agree with wikileaks or not.The ways things are going with future censorship, there won`t even be a a web site to voice your opinions no matter what you think...........

Welcome to the future!

http://www.infowars.com/net-neutrality-the-fcc-wikileaks-and-the-future-of-internet-freedom/
YoGi avatar
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 22:35
Author: Admin
saveitforlater wrote:
LOL @ all of this. With the knowledge, what can you do about it? Overthrow the government? LMAO. All you can do is have the knowledge. This whole thing cracks me up. Please someone answer as to what your gonna do with the knowledge.

With the knowledge??? Who is talking about knowledge here?
Overthrow the government?? Who spoke about that?
What am I going to do about the knowledge? --

Mate I think the whole thing went by you. It's not about knowing whats in those cables thats important here. Its why are they prosecuting someone for publishing them? Why is the information which has finished online so secretive? Whats there to hide? And to top it all, why the fuck are they getting somone who is just the spokesman of the site/co-founder/hacker ....... Have they accused him of hacking? Has he been FORMERLY accused of having anything to do with the "getting of the 'knowlegde'" ---> NO .
He has been accused of rape... One woman has withdawn her case..
----> Now why do world banks close down an account of an individual...why does paypal close his account and freeze his money?? Amazon puts wikileaks off their site... Why is there so much activity going on? What the fuck is so important here? ----> This is not knowledge, this is reality.. and we are here in this forum talking about reality, not how we are going to save the world. One can ponder about things, and share thoughts ---> it's about going forward in a unified direction . not trying to always play the antagonist.

I feel this whole issue is going to result in new internet laws which will allow less freedom and more censorship. Thats what I feel
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Uncle_Alf wrote:
As for the cablegate documents they do have some intresting reading,like the Saudis puuting pressure on the US to do somthing about Iraqs nuclear capabilites,and the US did take action,the way I look at this,is the US buckled to the saudis

LoL mate i think you meant IRAN and not Iraq (;
Mandelbrot wrote:
It doesn`t matter if you agree with wikileaks or not.The ways things are going with future censorship, there won`t even be a a web site to voice your opinions no matter what you think...........

Welcome to the future!

On the ball my friend.. I see that you understand what direction this is heading in.
DjInFeRnO wrote:
Good to have some knowledge to impart so they have the tool set to survive.

LoL ya tool, pure genius, whatever that meant!! .. owe you a curry I guess...
YoGi avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 01:30
Author: Admin
Who else but the good old CIA

EDIT:
Page down .. here is a snapshot of the cached page
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YoGi avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 09:21
Author: Admin
uncle_ALF wrote:
As posted before its taken bout 3 months for anything to happen from when warrent was first issued in sweeden so it really shows you that there is not much evidence or it would have been presued long ago.

Doesn't seem so mate.. check this out RAPE WARRANT CANCELLED
aSBo avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:08
Author: Site FriendKitty
Updated 13-10-2010


16 Year Old Dutch Teenager Arrested In Connection With Anonymous, Operation Payback, Attacks On Matercard, Visa, Paypal


Dutch police say they have arrested a 16 year old teenage suspected of being involved in the DDoS (Dedicated Denial of Service) attacks on the web sites of financial institutions including; Pay Pal, Mastercard and Visa by the group known as "Anonymous."



PsY LMAO please one curry for "the tool"

Fast Getaway :D
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Whoops ! :0
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YoGi avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 14:55
Author: Admin
Alex Jones Radio show host wrote:
Appearing during the first two hours, radio host Alex Jones offered commentary on the WikiLeaks situation and controversies surrounding Julian Assange's arrest. WikiLeaks founder Assange is being set up and framed with rape charges, he reported. Further, Jones suggested that Cass Sunstein, the White House regulatory czar, is actually behind WikiLeaks and is using it to create a kind of "digital 9-11," or Internet kill switch. "They've got new legislation in place they're calling the Patriot Act for the Internet-- taxation, regulation, web IDs, a total iron curtain over the alternative press," he declared.

Regarding the Army Private (Bradley Manning), suspected of releasing the documents to WikiLeaks, Jones argued that a low level Private would not have access to super-secret US documents and cables that aren't even connected to the US Army. "It's clear that Manning is a patsy from the military angle," and Assange is the patsy as the supposed mastermind, he said. "My point is that this is all being put on display to sell a new McCarthyism in this country, to persecute anybody," and eliminate whistleblowers, Jones warned.
aSBo avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 16:51
Author: Site FriendKitty
More of Alex Jones

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SaveIt4later avatar
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 17:28
Author: Blocked
Knowledge is nothing, if you don't use it. The question is WHO is going to use the wiki leakes info. The latest stuff that was aquired by wiki-leaks was given to them by a counter-intelligence officer of the U.S. military. Who was trusted with his job. Somethings ARE better meant to be kept secret for a reason. It's called national security. I don't care why Assange was locked up and for what reason. I'm just glad he is locked up. The only thing better than that would be, he winds up dead.
Oh and mandlebrot. If I'm sitting by and doing nothing about civil liberties eroding. What are you doing about it? Again you've gained the knowledge, but what are you doing about stopping it from eroding?
YoGi avatar
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 00:47
Author: Admin
Paul Joseph Watson Infowars.com wrote:

Friday, December 10, 2010
One of the original members of Wikileaks warns that a series of bigger bombshell revelations are in the pipeline and that the growing crisis being contrived around the group and its figurehead Julian Assange is greasing the skids for the cybersecurity agenda to regulate and censor the world wide web.
Cryptome.org founder John Young, who the New York Observer recently characterized as “the original Wikileaker,” told the Alex Jones Show how he volunteered to register Wikileaks.org in December 2007 under his name for Wikileaks members who wanted to remain anonymous, with the understanding that the site was merely for the public benefit. Young became suspicious when he was subsequently told that the aim was to raise $5 million dollars within the first six months.
“I said wait a minute, that doesn’t sound like public benefit to me, that sounds like a high value funded program,” said Young, likening the scenario to a George Soros-style outfit.
“This was a business operation not a public benefit operation and it’s turned out to be that,” said Young, concurring with the fact that Wikileaks was introduced into the public arena by Cass Sunstein in a Washington Post editorial. This is important because in a 2008 white paper, Sunstein, who is now Obama’s White House information czar, argued that government entities should pose as “conspiracy theorists” as part of a clandestine plot to discredit independent media voices and ultimately demolish free speech on the Internet.
Young said that Wikileaks provided the perfect pretext for government to raise funds for a cybersecurity infrastructure that would eventually be used to silence free speech and regulate the Internet.
“Some of the enthusiasts for Wikileaks seem to be operating in concert with some of its opponents, it looks like they’re in lock step to me,” said Young, noting that the whole fiasco was a display of theatre designed to test whether the cybersecurity agenda is ready to get traction. Given the fact that establishment Republicans are already introducing legislation aimed at criminalizing Wikileaks, circumstances clearly indicate that the crisis is being exploited to push Internet censorship.
Although George Soros’ Open Society Institute denies having any connection to Wikileaks, Young personally had conversations with Wikileaks founders who told him of their efforts to secure funding from the organization, at which point Young resigned from Wikileaks. Young said that Wikileaks were all but bankrupt when they were operating on their own but have now “raised millions by being on the inside.”
As to who is actually behind Wikileaks aside from Assange himself, Young pointed to a Wikipedia list of “Cypherpunks,” Internet gurus, some of whom now hold prominent positions in major technology companies, who were responsible for a mailing list that started in 1992 for people interested in privacy and cryptography.
Young said that Wikileaks was not an independent organization nor one controlled by government, but instead a “concept, an aspiration, a goal….not anything you’re going to be able to take down by the usual means,” which is why Young predicts Wikileaks will not be taken down. However, he cautioned that Wikileaks now redacting documents was a sign that they have been co-opted to a large extent.
“If you were offered a million dollar bribe and you were 39-years-old and had no other income, think about it, it’s called a government contract,” said Young, alleging that Assange has been bought off.
“I expect there will be a continuing crisis raised by the Wikileaks model,” said Young, adding that increasingly damaging documents will continue to be released and that this will enable both dissidents like Assange as well as governments to accrue both power and increased funding.
“It’ll be kept going for quite a while, money’s pouring in from all sides,” said Young, adding that the situation was being escalated into a “war-like crisis” so the US government could milk cyber-threats to beef their own authority.

“Right now they’re just testing the public’s reaction with this low-level secrecy revelation, but the other stuff will come,” said Young, pointing out that just because the cables released thus far were classified as secret didn’t mean they were true. Indeed, many of the cables bolster discredited rhetoric about the war on terror and do little to harm US imperial objectives because they mainly consist of material that arises out of the echo chamber of geopolitical propaganda.
Young predicts that a “series of bombshells” will continue to emerge both from Wikileaks and about its founder Julian Assange, specifically in relation to the bogus rape charges against him, and that we’re only being “teased” at the moment and much more interesting material is in the pipeline, which Young went on to list;
- Information about the internal affairs of Bank of America
- Files on weapons of mass destruction
- War plans of all nations, for and against one another
- Reports and training literature on black site prisons and torture chambers
- Files about clandestine spy agencies and their operatives
- Files on human rights abuses
- Files about billionaire political meddlers
- Files about global tax collection agencies
- Files about the Vatican’s meddling in global political affairs
- Information about the Clinton Foundation, although this was the only one on which Young wasn’t certain.
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